Interesting re Mavs Lakers trade.

[patdog]

If you're confused about how the Mavericks could make a trade like this, just know that the GM who orchestrated the whole thing, Nico Harrison, is the same guy who botched a presentation at Nike for Stephen Curry in 2013.

The biggest mistakes made in the meeting included Harrison calling Steph 'Seth', spelling Stephen 'Stephon' and the presentation being tailor-made for Kevin Durant.

Curry was signed to Nike at the time, but was so put off by the meeting that he switched to Under Armour and it saw Nike miss out on hundreds of millions of dollars as a result

 

[anon1758050382]

I don't really follow the NBA, but was Luka set to become a free agent this summer if Dallas failed to sign him to a max deal?

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

I don't really follow the NBA, but was Luka set to become a free agent this summer if Dallas failed to sign him to a max deal?

He has a player option for next year that he’s obviously going to opt out of. He would be a free agent.

 

[anon1758050382]

He has a player option for next year that he’s obviously going to opt out of. He would be a free agent.

So, in that case, it's not crazy to trade a player with an expiring contract that you don't think you can resign. The mistake was not getting more for him. They should have leaked that he was on the trading block and created a bidding war. I understand this trade was a complete surprise to the NBA world. That is not a good thing for the team unloading a superstar.

 

[Colonel Kang]

Trades like this don't happen without complete ownership approval. The GM is not to blame here.

It'll be interesting to see if the Mavs ownership gets extra NBA financing with the new arena they plan on building....

 

[DoomSlayer]

So, in that case, it's not crazy to trade a player with an expiring contract that you don't think you can resign. The mistake was not getting more for him. They should have leaked that he was on the trading block and created a bidding war. I understand this trade was a complete surprise to the NBA world. That is not a good thing for the team unloading a superstar.

But Dallas was the only team that could sign him to a Super Max deal. Basically in the NBA teams can sign their own players to deals worth more than any other team can. It was put into place to try to help smaller market teams keep superstars. Luka was definitely going to sign that deal. The Mavs aren’t trying to act like he wasn’t going to sign, they are basically saying THEY were the ones that didn’t want to sign him because he doesn’t stay in shape. Which is ridiculous he’s still a top 3 player in the league.

Davis is good and Dallas will be a contender for now but they have screwed themselves for the future. I saw somebody explain it this way and it stuck with me: Dallas is now led by a 32 year old Kyrie and a 32 year old Davis and they don’t own any of their own picks from 2027-2030 when those two players will be 34-37 years old. Luka is 25. The fact they didn’t get at least 5 unprotected firsts is criminal.

 

[anon1758050382]

But Dallas was the only team that could sign him to a Super Max deal. Basically in the NBA teams can sign their own players to deals worth more than any other team can. It was put into place to try to help smaller market teams keep superstars. Luka was definitely going to sign that deal. The Mavs aren’t trying to act like he wasn’t going to sign, they are basically saying THEY were the ones that didn’t want to sign him because he doesn’t stay in shape. Which is ridiculous he’s still a top 3 player in the league.

Davis is good and Dallas will be a contender for now but they have screwed themselves for the future. I saw somebody explain it this way and it stuck with me: Dallas is now led by a 32 year old Kyrie and a 32 year old Davis and they don’t own any of their own picks from 2027-2030 when those two players will be 34-37 years old. Luka is 25. The fact they didn’t get at least 5 unprotected firsts is criminal.

In reading about the trade, at least some are claiming that there was worry they couldn't sign him to the max deal. Maybe that's wrong.

If it's true that Dallas could have resigned him and instead traded him for AD, it is a confounding trade.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

In reading about the trade, at least some are claiming that there was worry they couldn't sign him to the max deal. Maybe that's wrong.

If it's true that Dallas could have resigned him and instead traded him for AD, it is a confounding trade.

Here’s the best scenario I can come up with. It’s still the most bizarre trade I’ve seen in the NBA involving stars like this….

Mavs GM thinks they have enough talent to make a run this year with AD instead of Luka with what they have on the roster. It’s shooting your shot this season because long term you’re going to have to dump players to pay Luka if you keep him. Thats it. That’s the only way you remotely justify the trade. I just don’t understand how you don’t at least shop Doncic instead of just the Lakers.

 

[MagnoliaHunter]

Sounds like the Cowboys aren't the only Dallas franchise with a dubmass owner.

 

[HRMSU]

Here’s the best scenario I can come up with. It’s still the most bizarre trade I’ve seen in the NBA involving stars like this….

Mavs GM thinks they have enough talent to make a run this year with AD instead of Luka with what they have on the roster. It’s shooting your shot this season because long term you’re going to have to dump players to pay Luka if you keep him. Thats it. That’s the only way you remotely justify the trade. I just don’t understand how you don’t at least shop Doncic instead of just the Lakers.

Not shopping him for the best possible deal is what can't be explained away.

 

[HRMSU]

Sounds like the Cowboys aren't the only Dallas franchise with a dubmass owner.

New majority owner out of Vegas. The conspiracy crowd is claiming he wants to move the team to Vegas and NBA will ok it now and give Dallas an expansion franchise.

 

[MagnoliaHunter]

New majority owner out of Vegas. The conspiracy crowd is claiming he wants to move the team to Vegas and NBA will ok it now and give Dallas an expansion franchise.

not sure what this has to do with the owner ok-ing this trade.

 

[HRMSU]

not sure what this has to do with the owner ok-ing this trade.

Then you don't have an appreciation for the backlash that is going on in Dallas right now. Let's just say it's not a good Monday to be in sales for the Mav's right now. I'm sure it will die down some especially if they can still get in the playoffs but a lot of people were more Luka fans than Mav fans just like when Dirk was there. They feel betrayed and they are whipping out the boycott phrase. A pro team needs their fans to support them in order to remain viable just ask the Oakland teams.

 

[DoomSlayer]

not sure what this has to do with the owner ok-ing this trade.

Mavs are rooted in Dallas, they have a ton of support and it isn’t a small market. No way they could ever move unless something so drastic happened that all the fan support disappeared. The CT is that trading Luka was done to intentionally drive away the fans. I don’t personally buy it. From what I can tell the Dallas GM that used to work at Nike has a connection with AD. That’s who he wanted and he had tunnel vision. They could have got the Lakers 2031 1st round pick and they didn’t even get that. He wanted AD and didn’t care about anything else. You make this move you better win a title this year or next, if not it will look even worse than it does now. And even if you win 1 and then the Luka wins 5 with the Lakers it still goes down as one of the worst trades in history.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Then you don't have an appreciation for the backlash that is going on in Dallas right now. Let's just say it's not a good Monday to be in sales for the Mav's right now. I'm sure it will die down some especially if they can still get in the playoffs but a lot of people were more Luka fans than Mav fans just like when Dirk was there. They feel betrayed and they are whipping out the boycott phrase. A pro team needs their fans to support them in order to remain viable just ask the Oakland teams.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

If you're confused about how the Mavericks could make a trade like this, just know that the GM who orchestrated the whole thing, Nico Harrison, is the same guy who botched a presentation at Nike for Stephen Curry in 2013.

The biggest mistakes made in the meeting included Harrison calling Steph 'Seth', spelling Stephen 'Stephon' and the presentation being tailor-made for Kevin Durant.

Curry was signed to Nike at the time, but was so put off by the meeting that he switched to Under Armour and it saw Nike miss out on hundreds of millions of dollars as a result

Mark Cuban has replaced Jerral Jones as the biggest shitbag in DFW.

 

[POTUS]

Moving them to LV and letting Dallas receive the expansion franchise would be a lot easier to pull off is the teams marquee star has been removed. But not necessarily a requirement. They moved Seattle to OKC with KD and Russ on the team. I still don’t buy the theory.

 

[POTUS]

Mark Cuban has replaced Jerral Jones as the biggest shitbag in DFW.

Mark Cuban isn’t the owner anymore.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Mark Cuban isn’t the owner anymore.

He’s not majority owner. He owns a little over a quarter of the team.

 

[HotMop]

But Dallas was the only team that could sign him to a Super Max deal. Basically in the NBA teams can sign their own players to deals worth more than any other team can. It was put into place to try to help smaller market teams keep superstars. Luka was definitely going to sign that deal. The Mavs aren’t trying to act like he wasn’t going to sign, they are basically saying THEY were the ones that didn’t want to sign him because he doesn’t stay in shape. Which is ridiculous he’s still a top 3 player in the league.

Davis is good and Dallas will be a contender for now but they have screwed themselves for the future. I saw somebody explain it this way and it stuck with me: Dallas is now led by a 32 year old Kyrie and a 32 year old Davis and they don’t own any of their own picks from 2027-2030 when those two players will be 34-37 years old. Luka is 25. The fact they didn’t get at least 5 unprotected firsts is criminal.

Yeah, this trade causes him to lose 115m dollars. Wow

 

[dorndawg]

Yeah, this trade causes him to lose 115m dollars. Wow

Luka gonna score 80 when Mavs play at lakers later this month

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

 

[Dawgg]

I think the biggest shock to me in this whole deal is that Luka is only 25. Dude looks like he’s well into his 30’s.

 

[Dawgg]

Luka gonna score 80 when Mavs play at lakers later this month

If he plays.

 

[Dawgg]

New majority owner out of Vegas. The conspiracy crowd is claiming he wants to move the team to Vegas and NBA will ok it now and give Dallas an expansion franchise.

Cuban has said previously that the only way he’d approve a new lease in Dallas is if Dallas built a gaming/casino/entertainment district with the new arena being part of that, so there could be some truth to that.

That said, an expansion NBA franchise is going to require billions to secure.