interesting stat from statsheet.com....

randystewart

Junior
Jan 14, 2009
1,181
314
83
be attributed to that ******** he always pulls with a slim lead..... Nothing bothers me more than when we have a 3 point lead with 2 minutes to go and start doing that "hold the ball at the top of the key for 30 seconds and throw up a prayer" offense. We never get off a good shot, and the other team always has plenty of time left, yet he runs that ******** every time we have a slight lead.
 

DowntownDawg

Redshirt
May 28, 2007
3,494
0
0
"put the ball in Jamont's hands and everybody else clear out" that the other team knew was coming with 100% certainty?
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
55,862
24,807
113
Overall, he's 50-53 in close games, which is pretty close to the winning percentage EVERY coach has in close games (for reference Mike Krzyzewski is only 124-104 in close games). The fact Stans is only 11-23 in the last 3.5 seasons just shows that we've been unlucky in close games. It's a myth that good coaches win the close games. Good coaches win the blowouts (i.e. they don't get blown out). In close games too much happens that is out of a coach's control.
 

Coach34

Redshirt
Jul 20, 2012
20,283
1
0
I'd say the current trend is alarming....and try checking Williams and bradyBrady
 

sleepy dawg

Redshirt
Dec 6, 2009
923
0
0
Stans is 17-2 in games decided by greater than 19 points, yet everyone is always b*tching how we never blow anyone out.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
55,862
24,807
113
The point is ALL coaches are going to be pretty damn close to .500 in close games. If coaching made a real difference in close games, why aren't the good coaches better than 53% or so in them? Here's a task for you, if you think coaching makes a difference in close games then find me a coach who's been around for more than 5 years who has a winning percentage greater than 60% (or less than 40%). Good luck with that.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
55,862
24,807
113
Over time, both good and bad coaches are close to .500 in the close games. The stats in close games and blowouts over the last 3 years point to us being unlucky in close games during that time and that over time our luck will even out.
 

Coach34

Redshirt
Jul 20, 2012
20,283
1
0
patdog said:
The point is ALL coaches are going to be pretty damn close to .500 in close games. If coaching made a real difference in close games, why aren't the good coaches better than 53% or so in them? Here's a task for you, if you think coaching makes a difference in close games then find me a coach who's been around for more than 5 years who has a winning percentage greater than 60% (or less than 40%). Good luck with that.

Jim Calhoun- 142-93....and thats over 30 seasons
 

mredge

Redshirt
May 1, 2006
112
0
0
I agree with you Coach. Thought I would beat someone else with another sad excuse.
 

RT23

Redshirt
Mar 7, 2009
193
0
0
I would say it also has to do with being down by 4 with 50 seconds left and letting 20 seconds run off the clock before fouling. I understand giving the guys a chance to get a steal, but after 5 seconds or so, you get it over with. Instead, he pulls the players off of the inbounds pass and lets them walk it to half court before attemping any pressure. At least make them work for it.

Ive seen that one happen many times in close games.
 

RT23

Redshirt
Mar 7, 2009
193
0
0
One year may be unlucky, but 3.5 is certainly a trend.

If anything, my take would be to acknowledge that Stans had some pretty good years, enough to even have a good record in close games 39-30(?) up until 3.5 years ago. I dont know if people were bashing him back then as they are now, but he certainly had better outcomes in the early 2000's than the past few years. Whatever the reason for the dropoff, it has happened and is alarming. 6 years ago, everyone expected State to be not only be in the tourney, but with a pretty good seed as well. The past few years, it has been a hit-and-hope type feel around the program. Contribute it to whatever you like whether it be the talent level or the competition, but outside of major injuries (which has not been the case), it all falls on the head coach. You cant be great (good) every year, but even great coaches wear out their welcome. Mark Richt is the main one coming to mind now. He has had some really great seasons, buthis past few teams have underachieved and he is feeling the pressure. He was given the option to make changes and he did and we will see if that helps, although it usually doesnt. I think Stans should get the same option.