Jeremy Tyler at 6-11 junior in high school decided to forego his senior year at his high school in San Diego to go pro in Europe. According to Scout he is the #1 player in the class of 2010 and Scout even goes as far as to say he will be the #1 draft pick in the 2011 NBA draft. I think it is a rather interesting and definately non conventional move. Could we see stuff like this become a norm and what does everyone else think about it?
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Jeremy Tyler at 6-11 junior in high school decided to forego his senior year at his high school in San Diego to go pro in Europe. According to Scout he is the #1 player in the class of 2010 and Scout even goes as far as to say he will be the #1 draft pick in the 2011 NBA draft. I think it is a rather interesting and definately non conventional move. Could we see stuff like this become a norm and what does everyone else think about it?
does he have to wait two years or one to enter the NBA?
I think it's a great idea b/c you get to play basketball everyday and get paid for it. You just have to want to move to Europe.
I think it's a great idea b/c you get to play basketball everyday and get paid for it. You just have to want to move to Europe.
so, he has to wait one year after he would have graduated high school. i don't know if there's a different rule for foreigners, but the age requirement should be the same across the board. otherwise, i'm suing them for discrimination. pm me if you are an NBA draft prospect...
I mean, I'm sure the NBA could legally do something like that, but it would go over about as well as property requirements to vote.
I never understood the rule anyway. Very few of the players who made the jump from high school to the NBA can be considered a failure, especially from the player's point of view. One year really isn't long enough to set up a cost free farm system like the way the NFL uses college football. So, I guess I just never really understood what the point of it was.
I never understood the rule anyway. Very few of the players who made the jump from high school to the NBA can be considered a failure, especially from the player's point of view. One year really isn't long enough to set up a cost free farm system like the way the NFL uses college football. So, I guess I just never really understood what the point of it was.
I think what the NBA should do is make the Developmental League like a minor league system. Make the age requirements just like baseball.
2 NBA teams per D-league team or something so that the college game doesn't lose everybody. In fact, the college game may be better overall b/c you wouldn't have all the one and done type players.
2 NBA teams per D-league team or something so that the college game doesn't lose everybody. In fact, the college game may be better overall b/c you wouldn't have all the one and done type players.
I don't see how moral decay equates with a high school diploma. He'll end up a hell of a lot more experienced and cultured than your typical high school senior.
College Basketball is already suffering....put in a full minor league program, and suddenly College B Ball will match the lack of importance of College Baseball.
If someone asked me if i wanted to skip my senior year of high school, make a couple hundred grand the next two years playing a sport and travel around Europe, would I do it?
Uh, $%$$ yea I'd do it...
Uh, $%$$ yea I'd do it...
This is exactly my point. Take a couple hundred grand out of the equation and would most people want to leave home, family, and friends to play basketball in a foreign country? Would most parents allow their kids to skip their senior year of HS to go to Europe if no money was involved? My quess is probably not.
Some can argue, the smart decision is to take the money while it is on the table. True.....for a society that values money over spending time with family and enjoying youth. Injury/risk arguement.....he is just as likely (probably more so) to get hurt in Europe as he is in HS and one year of college. Therefore, the injury risk is the same. Only difference.....the couple of grand in Europe....so the decision is made.
But you said it's the moral decay due to greed and lust for material things. Both the player and the father have said that it's not about the money; if they wanted the money the dad said he could have just taken a payment under the table from a coach/agent.
He's going over there to get better at a skill, because that opportunity is not available him to right now. More power to him.
And yeah, ever heard of exchange students?
He's going over there to get better at a skill, because that opportunity is not available him to right now. More power to him.
And yeah, ever heard of exchange students?
and I think the NBA was hoping that a year or two of college would help their players be more mature and better developed as players and people. They were also hoping that the players would at least start to get an education of some sort.
Now, whether they have achieved what they were supposedly going for, I don't know about that.
Now, whether they have achieved what they were supposedly going for, I don't know about that.
start your own professional basketball league in the US, for 17 and 18 year olds. they will play against each other, but have no restrictions on practice time, coaching, etc. provide classes so they can get their GED by the time they leave the league. this will only be for those players who are willing to bypass college (and high school) eligibility by going ahead and turning pro and staying closer to home. sure, you won't have a very large pool from which to draw. but in a few years, you could become the feeder league to the NBA. watch out, though, as the NCAA will do everything in its power to snuff you out (probably including getting the NBA to rescind the age limit).
if this becomes a trend (going to europe), i wouldn't be surprised to see a non-NBA sanctioned pro league for upper-teens in the US, probably started by someone like sonny vaccaro. it's not a far reach from the current AAU system.
if this becomes a trend (going to europe), i wouldn't be surprised to see a non-NBA sanctioned pro league for upper-teens in the US, probably started by someone like sonny vaccaro. it's not a far reach from the current AAU system.
I have heard of exchange students. I said "most people...". I doubt MOST people are interested in being exchange students........unless you put a "couple of grand" out there.
Obviously, others had questions about the motive as the money factor was addressed by the father.
Obviously, others had questions about the motive as the money factor was addressed by the father.
So just because most people wouldn't do it that means that someone choosing to leads to the decay of scoiety?
The world would be a better place if more people experienced other cultures, not a worse one as you suggest.</p>
The world would be a better place if more people experienced other cultures, not a worse one as you suggest.</p>
Why wait? He has a chance to live in friggin Europe for 2 seasons and travel the world with whatever team picks him up. He will develop against top competition instead of being triple teamed every night and hacked to death. The experiences will be invaluable.Agentdog said:
If id had the opportunity to live in and travel Europe for 2 years while getting my GED, i sure as hell woulda done it. The life lessons and experiences would have FAR outweighed my last year of HS and first year of college. ****, even if he has a career ending injury, he will still have more money than most all of us make in 5 years and he will be able to go to college. He would be right where most of us were at 19/20...only richer and with more life experience.
Yep, i can see how all of that equals moral decay.
couple of grand? How about couple of HUNDRED grand? PLUS endorsements. PLUS living arrangements being taken care of. PLUS getting to improve in your profession against better talent. PLUS getting to learn a new culture and language.Agentdog said:
This sort of thing is done all the time on other career paths. Violin genuis?...ship em off at an early age to perfect their craft. Tennis genius?...turn pro at 15 and dominate while you can. Genius in school?...skip em ahead, have em graduate top college by 14 and formulating crazy weapons **** for the DOD at 15.
Why is basketball any different? He will still get an education, itll just be across a lot of water.
Agentdog said:
Just another example of jealousy over a kid who has a special talent and wants to cash in on it. Nothing wrong with that. There is something wrong with creating a rule to prohibits him from doing it when he wants to do it.