Interesting thought

[Mutt the Hoople.buhoops]

Last Saturday before the Egg Bowl, Mississippi State fans with a few cowbells were insulted and threatened with violence. Some actually did get attacked.

Last year when the Ku Klux Klan marched on campus, the fans sat there quietly.

 

[Mutt the Hoople.buhoops]

Last Saturday before the Egg Bowl, Mississippi State fans with a few cowbells were insulted and threatened with violence. Some actually did get attacked.

Last year when the Ku Klux Klan marched on campus, the fans sat there quietly.

 

[NashvilleBulldawg]

Interesting indeed. Shows which group they hate more, huh?

 

[weblow]

The KKK was surrounded by law numerous law enforcement the entire time they were on campus. We all watched the video, it looked like they were being protected by the Secret Service for God's sake.

My guess is, the KKK would have had their *** severely beaten without the law enforcement protecting them. Also in the video of the KKK, their fans were anything but quiet.

You are looking like a massive homer with blinders on.

 

[LewisNixon]

I imagine your day job hauling pulpwood is taxing as hell, mentally.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

At Mississippi State, any on-campus event has to be approved by someone from dean of students' office, regardless of whether it's done by a student organization. The DoS office can reject an event for any reason. Thus, I find it highly unlikely the KKK would ever be able to rally on campus. Obviously, they could do it without permission, but they'd get the 17 beat out of them instantly.

 

[NashvilleBulldawg]

so don't accuse me of not being honest. I only saw a pic posted somewhere that indicated no escort whatsoever.<div>Thanks for the clarification though. The more you know...</div>

 

[cowbellpresident]

You seem to have forgot about the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. The Dean of Students cannot prohibit speech on campus for <span style="text-decoration: underline;">any</span> reason especially based on the content of the speech as you suggest. Thank God for the wisdom of our founding fathers.

 

[Mutt the Hoople.buhoops]

When the KKK, the most violent racist group in US history, demonstrated on campus, you turned your backs to them. Not so much of a "we hate everything you stand for" thing, but more of a "Dang, Cousin Earl. Couldn't you pull this **** some other time besides the biggest recruiting weekend of the year?"

 

[NashvilleBulldawg]

isn't protected, now is it? Not saying it's right, because I support free speech regardless of how offensive it is, but it seems our soft-hearted liberal friends helped put in place "hate speech" laws.

 

[LewisNixon]

which I know you don't, then you got hit one too many times in the head in HS football.

Blind hatred clouds the judgement, Mutt. You have to stay focused and above the fray to effectively fight your enemy.

 

[LewisNixon]

Does anybody here truly think Ole Miss sanctioned the Klu Klux Klan to rally on our campus? It is a state owned property, just like your campus. If the KKK decided to gather there, they could do so within their rights under the 1st Amendment, if they did it peacefully and followed the law. Every Ole Miss fan I know hated that and hates the sickness they stand for. But the right to free speech is really free, no matter how sick and offensive it is.

Just another example of Mutt showing his hatred and ignorance about something he knows nothing of.

 

[patdog]

Otherwise, the KKK would never be allowed to march anywhere.

 

[Mutt the Hoople.buhoops]

..but opposing fans using the one Southern tradition not banned by the 14th Amendment, they deserve to get their asses kicked.

 

[Fresno Bob]

Just another example of Mutt showing his hatred and ignorance about something he knows nothing of.

Mutt knows better. Of course he does. He's just a race baiting nutjob. There's literally not a poster on here or Nafoom that's more psychotic.

 

[Rutherford B Hays]

Except that what he posted was true. People rush to call him names, but no one has refuted him with any facts.

 

[Sawbones]

If anyone last year tried to 'beat the **** out of the KKK', they would basically just get into it with the police and noone wins except the KKK because it would draw more attention, particularly by the media, which basically makes the state of Mississippi look bad as a whole.

 

[rem101]

Does anybody here truly think Ole Miss sanctioned the Klu Klux Klan to rally on our campus? It is a state owned property, just like your campus. If the KKK decided to gather there, they could do so within their rights under the 1st Amendment, if they did it peacefully and followed the law.<span style="font-weight: bold;"> Every Ole Miss fan I know hated that and hates the sickness they stand for.</span> But the right to free speech is really free, no matter how sick and offensive it is.

Just another example of Mutt showing his hatred and ignorance about something he knows nothing of.

You must not know him.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

And a judge might agree, but at MSU at least, the Dean of Students office has to approve anything on campus and can still reject your event even if the Constitution says you can do it. Sure, you could get a judge to back you up at some point down the line, but Ole Miss should have just had the police escort the KKK idiots off campus. Even if they technically lost a legal case later, Ole Miss would have looked pretty amazing in the national court of opinion.

 

[MSUCE99]

What about Crunchy Mike?

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[mstateglfr]

Friggin awful posts every damn time.

Good point, OM fans must love the KKK, you nailed it. That is clearly what we should conclude.

 

[Chesusdog]

The Cowboys terribleness is clearly getting to him.

 

[MSUCE99]

two sets of visitors on Ole Miss' campus.

1) KKK - everyone turns their back and silently protests, fine, whatever.

2) MSU - verbal abuse, threats, some reports of physical assault?

At the LEAST, you could say that the Bears are much more polite and better behaved when the Klan is visiting campus than when they are hosting just another SEC team (not their main rival).

Sure, beating the crap out of the Kluxxers would cause a scene, but hell, the whole country would have cheered for them. It would have been like giving a beatdown to those Westboro ********. Besides, assaulting opposing fans visiting your campus isn't necessarily legal or socially acceptable, either, is it?

 

[Mutt the Hoople.buhoops]

If anyone last year tried to 'beat the **** out of the KKK', they would basically just get into it with the police and noone wins except the KKK because it would draw more attention, particularly by the media, which basically makes the state of Mississippi look bad as a whole.

How would kicking the KKK's *** make Ole Miss look bad?

 

[Mutt the Hoople.buhoops]

two sets of visitors on Ole Miss' campus.

1) KKK - everyone turns their back and silently protests, fine, whatever.

2) MSU - verbal abuse, threats, some reports of physical assault?

At the LEAST, you could say that the Bears are much more polite and better behaved when the Klan is visiting campus than when they are hosting just another SEC team (not their main rival).

Sure, beating the crap out of the Kluxxers would cause a scene, but hell, the whole country would have cheered for them. It would have been like giving a beatdown to those Westboro ********. Besides, assaulting opposing fans visiting your campus isn't necessarily legal or socially acceptable, either, is it?

You nailed it.

 

[codeDawg]

That's my best "Jim Beck" false argument.

 

[clydefrazier]

was also the position of the majority of the Mississippi fans. So the Klan and the Rebel nation had the same position. In that text, Mutt is correct.</p>

 

[thelaw]

Realizing this thread is ridiculous I'll go ahead and throw in a couple of pennies anyway.<div>
</div><div>If you as a fan honestly believe that Ole Miss fans sanctioned the presence of the KKK in the grove, you are ridiculous. I was there at that game and it was extremely clear every sane person there considered it a major blight on the campus and ruinous to the game day atmosphere. As another poster mentioned, the KKK was surrounded by police for their safety, thus the reason why you claim the Ole Miss fans were "quiet or silently protesting." I'll posit this, if every single MSU fan at the egg bowl had a police escort, I believe you'd also find that none would be involved in any type of altercation. </div><div>
</div><div>Secondly, as far as the "beat the crap out of them and the world will cheer sentiment" goes, while I agree that it'd be great if every KKK member skated into an AIDS tree, I don't think it would be good press for MS for an angry mob to drag bodies down a street while buildings are burning.</div><div>
</div><div>It seems like a few of you have forgotten other similar instances of this sort of thing happening, for example Edgar Ray Killen leading an event at the Mississippi STATE Fair in 2004. This type of garbage happens all the time and it doesn't reflect the personal views of the people of Mississippi or Ole Miss fans- to say otherwise is again, absolutely ridiculous.</div><div>
</div><div>The reason why these events are allowed to occur is indeed because of the first amendment, it also protects NAMBLA rallies, PETA, etc... While unsavory, the 1A also protects things we cherish, and hopefully many of you recognize that. </div><div>
</div><div>Flame Ole Miss, its fans, their sports and traditions, whatever. But this type of **** is utterly stupid, for either or any fan base to accuse one another of. </div>

 

[Mutt the Hoople.buhoops]

...when the KKK, the most notorious domestic terrorist organization in American history, marches on campus, we hear a bunch of legalese and Law Talk, and the lawyers all come out of their holes to talk about codes, Constitution, and all that.

When a few fans ring cowbells, all reason goes out the window.

 

[thelaw]

<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">

...when the KKK, the most notorious domestic terrorist organization in American history, marches on campus, we hear a bunch of legalese and Law Talk, and the lawyers all come out of their holes to talk about codes, Constitution, and all that.

</span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">
</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">
</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">No, actually, I didn't grace you with "law talk," I presented it in common sense. </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">
</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">

Constitution, and all that.

</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">
</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">Understandably, that "Constitution and all that" may seem trivial to you, but you need it more than you realize.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">
</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">And no Mutt, unfortunately, you can't understand that fans from an opposing school that travel to another school, combined with copious amounts of alcohol and emotion, will inevitably lead to fragmented amounts of violence, property destruction, etc... See any time LSU has played at Miss. State. </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">
</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">None of this, however, has anything to do with the unfortunate situation regarding the KKK utilizing their rights afforded to them under the 1A.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">
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[NewTweederEndzoneDance]

Last Saturday before the Egg Bowl, Mississippi State fans with a few cowbells were insulted and threatened with violence. Some actually did get attacked.

Last year when the Ku Klux Klan marched on campus, the fans sat there quietly.

But the more you post your complete and utterly ignorant dubmassery, the more inclined I am to think you are just stupid as 17.

I don't even know what you are arguing. That we should be allowed to ring cowbells inside opposing (their stadium, not ours) team's stadiums? That fans of rival schools should never verbally abuse one another on gamedays or otherwise (do you think that as a whole, MSU fans do not do this?) That OM fans give MSU fans more **** than they give the KKK, despite the fact that you very obviously were not there to even see how much **** they gave the KKK?

I'd ask you to clarify, but based on my observations of you in this post, that is clearly above your mental capacity.

To the guy who is saying that the KKK would have to get permission from MSU to come on campus: are you saying that if myself and 10 buddies wanted to go stand in front of one of the buildings on campus on a gameday we would need to ask permission from MSU? ****, I suppose we are in violation of that rule every time I go back to campus...

 

[Sawbones]

You can't honestly believe this. I know you've kinda backed yourself into a corner, but just let it go.

Please lock this.

 

[mstateglfr]

...when the KKK, the most notorious domestic terrorist organization in American history, marches on campus, we hear a bunch of legalese and Law Talk, and the lawyers all come out of their holes to talk about codes, Constitution, and all that.

When a few fans ring cowbells, all reason goes out the window.

Yes, its because lawyers love the KKK and hate MSU. It all goes back to the often repeated statement that OM dominates the courts in Mississippi. And since it is so obvious that OM fans love the Klan(after all, they damn near welcomed them to the Grove according to you) and OM dominates the courts, it stands to reason that OM fans would obviously go all legal speak on you and defend the Klan since they run the legal side of everything in the state.

...sorry, i figured since this thread is already friggin awful, i would just add in a faux rant on OM's owning the justice system in the state.

I wish we had the ability to do some sort of virtual reality play out of how you would like this country and the states to be run. I would pay good money to grab a bag of popping corn and watch that disaster of a movie. Oh man i honestly wish i could watch it. I imagine some sort of Evangelical religious based government that goes all Old Testament on people, like boils and whatnot for punishment. To watch your system deal with that darn fornicatin and sodomizin would be hilarious. I am sure there would be multiple references to the Cowboys and how epically great they are(after all, it is your reality, not actual reality). I wonder if your VR government would address the 'sanctity of marriage' and how its being violated by the gays but not by the straights who divorce in droves and cheat on one another all the time.

Preach on brother Mutt, preach on. Keep that chin up, you will have a decent argument someday.