I think he may be using hateful and truthful as synonyms here.
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Maybe there should be “unrest in the streets” and “constant uprisings” and “ready to throw a punch” and “take him behind the gym and punch him in the face” and “I will go and take trump out tonight” and and and and and and
If you are unaware of how many of Kirk's comments and views were offensive and hateful in the eyes of groups he was speaking about, I am not the one that will change your mind.
Spend 30 minutes googling. If you then are like 'nothing he said could be viewed as hateful towards the groups he was talking about', then OK- we will need to agree to disagree.
Charlie Kirk wasn’t hateful
But George Floyd was factually a 5 time felon who was breaking the law before he died
There's a lot to this. Lots of otherwise normal people have weird things messed up in their head from who knows what that needs to be socialized out of them. I don't know that weird fetishes like foot fetishes or cross dressing fetishes or whatever you call furries are immediately harmful, but I think indulging in them rather than recognizing "that's weird as ****; I need to suppress those urges" has some risks of cultivating new and progressively more harmful fetishes. I get the desire to leave room for people to be individuals and different and maybe we were too far in the other direction at some point, but I think it's ok and healthy to identify some urges as messed up and urges that should not be indulged.
Yes. They hate the truth bc it paints a bad picture for them.
But being truthful isn’t hateful. As a matter of fact, not speaking the truth does more harm long term.
I dont know what you are referring to with all this.
You listed a couple of terms the left uses for the right(and I assume you dont think the terms are typically true). I added a couple terms the right uses for the left that I dont think are typically true.
This doesn’t make it hateful. It just makes it the truth.
what did he say that was hateful AND also was a lie? Link just one thing.
Why can't you give us an example so that people can decide for themselves? What is the most hateful thing he said? Please provide a clip.
Or alternatively we just have a disturbingly high number of people in education that shouldn't be there. Not publicly celebrating the cold blooded and completely unjustifiable murder of an individual is a really low bar to meet. We have just had a lot of rot in our supposed institutions of higher learning for a while, and because they have been indoctrinating teachers at the same time people have been working overtime to convince people that teachers are underpaid, we have a lot of rot in our primary and secondary institutions also.
This is weak minded. Disagreeing with somebody is not hateful. It's really not hard to find people online and in real life that like to loudly proclaim how stupid and wrong religious people are. Thinking somebody is wrong in their opinions or lifestyle choices is not "hateful". Unless all political, religious, and economic opinions are hateful.
I think this is just not realistic about how malleable most people are. The vast majority of people that are kept in extended adolescence are going to remain easily influenced. As long as people are in school and not working and self sufficient, they are mostly not going to be able to avoid indoctrination, particularly by people that are supposedly respected and have authority.
Certainly parents could do a better job of counteracting it, but unless their kids have some combination of intelligence and strong will, the parents are not going to be influential enough to counteract influences from people and things young adults are exposed to everyday.
Personally I thought this was pretty ѕhitty:
The context was that a right wing nut broke into the Pelosi household intending to murder Nancy. She wasn't home so he tried to kill her husband instead. He was eventually convicted of attempted murder and sentenced to life in prison.
And how did Kirk react? A condemnation of violence? Nope. He made jokes, insinuating that maybe they were gay lovers like a immature 7th grader, and even saying someone should bail out the would be murderer.
Can you imagine the backlash and anger if a liberal pundit had said all those same things about Kirk's killer? It would have been a career ender, but nobody on the right cared when Kirk and other pundits were laughing about a brutal near-murder. It's a complete double standard of 2020s American society. Case in point, lots of posters on this board made jokes about Paul Pelosi too, but no one made jokes about Kirk.
The context was that a right wing nut broke into the Pelosi household intending to murder Nancy. She wasn't home so he tried to kill her husband instead. He was eventually convicted of attempted murder and sentenced to life in prison.
And how did Kirk react? A condemnation of violence? Nope. He made jokes, insinuating that maybe they were gay lovers like a immature 7th grader, and even saying someone should bail out the would be murderer.
Can you imagine the backlash and anger if a liberal pundit had said all those same things about Kirk's killer? It would have been a career ender, but nobody on the right cared when Kirk and other pundits were laughing about a brutal near-murder. It's a complete double standard of 2020s American society. Case in point, lots of posters on this board made jokes about Paul Pelosi too, but no one made jokes about Kirk.
What the 17 does this have to do with anything I have posted?
You are straight up unhinged. Do you have conversations in person like this or do you save it for SPS?
Um skip to about 1:05 and listen closely
Also, tons of liberal pundits including a vice president nailed criminals out during BLM riots. Were you mad at them?
So you added quotes that, as you said, are not violence since they are words.
You lost me on this. Why did you post quotes that are no violence since words are not violence?
I agree, disagreeing with somebody, in and of itself, is not hateful. What can be hateful is the reason(s) given for disagreeing.
Surely you can see there is a difference.
The VP bailed out murderers? I think not.
Again, imagine if someone said literally those exact sentences, but with Kirk instead of Pelosi. You would be fuming. You know you would.
No im consistent. The same people celebrating Charlie’s death said George Floyd was a hero and built him a statue.
Do you not see the hypocrisy in that?
Was it, dare I say, a cooter poot?
The VP bailed out criminals
Charlie Kirk said bail him out and ask him questions
But murderers get bailed out all the time
Ukraine girl in charlotte ring a bell?
And here we have the problem. I dare anyone to produce an actual quote from CK that is hateful. Just one. There are literally thousands of videos of him showing immense restraint and gentleness in the face of some most self-absorbed jerks a college campus can produce.
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