Iowa State vs Iowa

jack66

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Three days after Thanksgiving can't be Ideal for the wrestlers.

That said, I see a toss-up at almost every weight. Will this be the year the Cyclones step up?
 

Fatwoodchuck

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Iowa st 18 (6)-Iowa 15 (4+3 bonus). Very achievable. Probably gonna look like IST 12- UI 21. TnT will have the team ready,Dresser will not.
 

jack66

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InterMat rankings

125 Poulin #9 vs Peterson #7
133 Frost #6 vs Ayala #3
141 Echemendia #6 vs Bailey #7
149 Johnson #2 vs Block #10
157 Zerban #3 vs Williams #12
165 Euton #22 vs Caliendo #3
174 Gaiton #11 vs Kennedy #2
184 Dean #10 vs Ferrari #1
197 Elam #2 vs Endene #4
285 Bastida #1 vs Kueter #6
 

Kiddagger311

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InterMat rankings

125 Poulin #9 vs Peterson #7
133 Frost #6 vs Ayala #3
141 Echemendia #6 vs Bailey #7
149 Johnson #2 vs Block #10
157 Zerban #3 vs Williams #12
165 Euton #22 vs Caliendo #3
174 Gaiton #11 vs Kennedy #2
184 Dean #10 vs Ferrari #1
197 Elam #2 vs Endene #4
285 Bastida #1 vs Kueter #6
Wow this is a lot closer on paper then expected… didn’t realize Iowa state was this good..
 

El_Jefe

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Iowa favored:
133 Ayala vs Frost (Ayala 11-7 last year)
165 Caliendo vs Euton (12-7 Caliendo last year)
174 Kennedy vs Gaitan (14-13 Kennedy in Nov 2023)
184 Ferrari vs Dean

Iowa State favored:
125 Peterson vs Poulin (6-4 Poulin last year)
141 Bailey vs Echemendia
149 Block vs Johnson
157 Williams vs Zerban
197 Endene vs Elam
HWT Kueter vs Bastida (7-2 Bastida last year)

It's in Ames, so no Carvering.

Iowa State with more favorites on paper, but also more guys susceptible to upset. IMO the Iowa favorites are all pretty solid favorites. Bonus seems unlikely if those are the lineups for both teams.

IDK, this looks like the year ISU should be favored, but it's so hard to ignore their track record.
 

Kiddagger311

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Iowa favored:
133 Ayala vs Frost (Ayala 11-7 last year)
165 Caliendo vs Euton (12-7 Caliendo last year)
174 Kennedy vs Gaitan (14-13 Kennedy in Nov 2023)
184 Ferrari vs Dean

Iowa State favored:
125 Peterson vs Poulin (6-4 Poulin last year)
141 Bailey vs Echemendia
149 Block vs Johnson
157 Williams vs Zerban
197 Endene vs Elam
HWT Kueter vs Bastida (7-2 Bastida last year)

It's in Ames, so no Carvering.

Iowa State with more favorites on paper, but also more guys susceptible to upset. IMO the Iowa favorites are all pretty solid favorites. Bonus seems unlikely if those are the lineups for both teams.

IDK, this looks like the year ISU should be favored, but it's so hard to ignore their track record.
I think Iowa’s gotta be the slight favorite based on track record. If there is a betting line where Iowa state is the favorite I think the smart money would be on iowa(I’m rooting for Iowa state upset).

125/141 probably closer to a tossup.. Iowa state needs to win one or both of these to get the win.. not sure who is favored in bonus/criteria if it is 5/5 match split… going to guess Iowa since their favorites are less likely to get upset.
 

El_Jefe

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I think Iowa’s gotta be the slight favorite based on track record. If there is a betting line where Iowa state is the favorite I think the smart money would be on iowa(I’m rooting for Iowa state upset).

125/141 probably closer to a tossup.. Iowa state needs to win one or both of these to get the win.. not sure who is favored in bonus/criteria if it is 5/5 match split… going to guess Iowa since their favorites are less likely to get upset.
My gut reaction was to call 125 a toss-up or even Iowa lean. And then I looked up their records. Not only did Poulin beat Peterson H2H, but he also placed higher in each of the last 2 years.

Maybe Peterson will get some bump from being in the Iowa room, and so him winning wouldn't be a terrible surprise. (Of course, Poulin could also get some bump from being in a better room.)

Bailey does not look good this year up a weight. I'm not sure how he would be even vs Echemendia, who has won every match this year by bonus. But that's why they wrestle on Resilite and not on paper.

IDK where bonus would come from on either side, unless some backup wrestles. Those are a lot of close matchups, and/or matchups with relatively close H2H past results. I'd imagine Ayala and Caliendo will be under a lot of pressure to find an extra point somehow, seeing as though they're the most likely to score more than 1 takedown.
 

WV lion

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My gut reaction was to call 125 a toss-up or even Iowa lean. And then I looked up their records. Not only did Poulin beat Peterson H2H, but he also placed higher in each of the last 2 years.

Maybe Peterson will get some bump from being in the Iowa room, and so him winning wouldn't be a terrible surprise. (Of course, Poulin could also get some bump from being in a better room.)

Bailey does not look good this year up a weight. I'm not sure how he would be even vs Echemendia, who has won every match this year by bonus. But that's why they wrestle on Resilite and not on paper.

IDK where bonus would come from on either side, unless some backup wrestles. Those are a lot of close matchups, and/or matchups with relatively close H2H past results. I'd imagine Ayala and Caliendo will be under a lot of pressure to find an extra point somehow, seeing as though they're the most likely to score more than 1 takedown.
Iowa didn't look like iowa in the national duals.
 
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Iowa favored:
133 Ayala vs Frost (Ayala 11-7 last year)
165 Caliendo vs Euton (12-7 Caliendo last year)
174 Kennedy vs Gaitan (14-13 Kennedy in Nov 2023)
184 Ferrari vs Dean

Iowa State favored:
125 Peterson vs Poulin (6-4 Poulin last year)
141 Bailey vs Echemendia
149 Block vs Johnson
157 Williams vs Zerban
197 Endene vs Elam
HWT Kueter vs Bastida (7-2 Bastida last year)

It's in Ames, so no Carvering.

Iowa State with more favorites on paper, but also more guys susceptible to upset. IMO the Iowa favorites are all pretty solid favorites. Bonus seems unlikely if those are the lineups for both teams.

IDK, this looks like the year ISU should be favored, but it's so hard to ignore their track record.
FIFY

Iowa favored:
133 Ayala vs Frost (Ayala 11-7 last year)
165 Caliendo vs Euton (12-7 Caliendo last year)
174 Kennedy vs Gaitan (14-13 Kennedy in Nov 2023)
184 Ferrari vs Dean

Toss ups:
125 Peterson vs Poulin (6-4 Poulin last year)
141 Bailey vs Echemendia
149 Block vs Johnson
157 Williams vs Zerban
197 Endene vs Elam

Iowa St. Favored:
HWT Kueter vs Bastida (7-2 Bastida last year)

Iowa St. clearly has a path, but it looks to me more like, they have to be near perfect to do it I hope and pray they do it just to give more legitimacy to that rivalry. Given the multi-year string of egg laying, I wouldn't take the bet.
 

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This BaschAMania covers several subjects, so it could be in the Social Media thread. However, its primary focus is the Cy-Hawk dual, so I'm putting it in this thread.



0:00 Intro
03:05 - SDSU vs Minnesota Was Electric
11:00 - RAF / Real American Freestyle
14:20 - RAF03 Card Preview
27:50 - RBY Back with the NLWC
29:15 - Tazhoudinov vs Cassioppi & Rest of the Card
37:04 - RAF04 Lookahead
39:40 - CyHawk Dual Preview
 

McScoreley

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Iowa State has a path but it's a very low chance because it requires them to win 6 matches since bonus favors Iowa at weights they're favored.

Iowa has 3 matches you'd be shocked if they didn't win (165, 174, 184) Iowa State has maybe one or two of those (157 and 285 and I don't think either of those as certain as any of Iowa's) I would consider putting 133 in that category for Iowa when you wonder where Evan Frost's weight is, if he gasses he's in trouble against Ayala. I'd categorize the rest as a tossup.

History says Iowa State will scrap and take a few but won't capitalize on enough to actually win the dual.
 
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On the west coast this weekend and unfortunately I committed months ago to be at a 6 year olds dance recital 🤦‍♂️. But I’m recording it in any event.
Dresser seems to have a way to screw up this dual every year. Too much hype, anxiety, over-coaching, I dunno. I don’t see much bonus either way. I’m going with Iowa, 6-4, maybe even 7-3 though it looks much closer on paper. I’d Love to be proven wrong though.
 

jack66

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I pretty much agree, though I can see ISU flipping the result at NCAAs. The Hawks are a better dual team than a tourney team this year, IMO.
 

El_Jefe

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I pretty much agree, though I can see ISU flipping the result at NCAAs. The Hawks are a better dual team than a tourney team this year, IMO.
I actually think it's the other way around, thanks to NCAA Tournament scoring leaning so heavily on placement points. Iowa has 4 potential finalists, with 2x finalist Ayala being the least likely of the 4. ISU has only 2 possible finalists, Elam and Bastida; the rest of their lineup is just as likely to miss the podium altogether vs making top 4.
 
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Hlstone

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I actually think it's the other way around, thanks to NCAA Tournament scoring leaning so heavily on placement points. Iowa has 4 potential finalists, with 2x finalist Ayala being the least likely of the 4. ISU has only 2 possible finalists, Elam and Bastida; the rest of their lineup is just as likely to miss the podium altogether vs making top 4.


Who are the 4 for Iowa? 133, 165, 184 I can definitely see.
 

jack66

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Ayala, Kennedy and Caliendo are muti-year Hawks in their final year. That hasn't been a recipe for success lately. Except for Buchanan, even the 1-year rentals have struggled in their final season.

I won't be surprised if 2 of them show up with a shoulder harness and a knee brace.
 

CarolinaFan1

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Caliendo is probably their best chance but Lockett or Blaze could realistically beat him in Semis.

Ferrari is next but Sinclair, Welsh and McEnelly are all potential finalists as well. Could go any direction among those 4.

I actually like Kennedy but think he will take a loss in semis to someone like Ruiz or Kharchla.

I don’t think Ayala makes the Finals (and maybe not even the Semis). Behind Byrd, Davino, Blaze and if they go Crookham and Forrest.

I put odds at 2.5 and am taking the under.
 
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RockySmith

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Ayala, Kennedy and Caliendo are muti-year Hawks in their final year. That hasn't been a recipe for success lately. Except for Buchanan, even the 1-year rentals have struggled in their final season.

I won't be surprised if 2 of them show up with a shoulder harness and a knee brace.
Caliendo was taken to OT by Gallagher, and Caliendo majored Gallagher last year. Caliendo lost to Lockett…. Feels like he will be the victim of the grind of the Iowa room in his final year.
 
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Nitlion1986

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Kennedy did wrestle well at the National Duals. That version of him looks to be a finalist contender.
Kennedy has had to fight for every ounce of respect he could muster during his stay in Iowa City. Always somebody better, yet it is always Kennedy toeing the line in the post season. I was actually happy for him last season toughing his way to an AA.
Caliendo and Ayala I believe do not make the finals this year. Not 100% HEW, but enough combined with the knowledge they aren't winning a title to take some heart out of the equation.
Kennedy will be the guy who continues the finals streak.