Try Facebook. There are some good wrestling groups on there and I'll bet you a lot of the HR posters are also visiting the Facebook pages. I've made a few pro Penn State comments and gotten some surly replies that I'm almost certain came from Hawk fans.
Iowa State vs Iowa
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OK, so you think OSU has the perfect night against PSU. How often has that happened? OSU gets 141 and probably Hwt. If it is a good night and Cael decided he is going to beat the cardio snot out of everybody throughout the week then OSU might get 4 wins.
Most likely Cael decides he would like to have his guys reasonably fresh and it is more likely OSU wins one (141) matches versus wins more than two matches.
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Feldman and Mendez are the only weights where they are favorites. Davino vs Blaze is a tossup at best for tOSU. Have they wrestled in the past? You'd think they'd have run across each other at some point. Cannon vs Duke I'd also call a toss up at best, but only because we haven't seen Duke yet. There's a good chance Duke is the clear favorite by the time the match actually gets here. Bouzakis vs Luke, give me Luke every time.
Luke has to be careful about getting into risky positions against Bouzakis. If he senses trouble, it's better to bail out than to try to score. I'm pretty sure he can score enough points to walk away with the win.
Blaze is 3-0 vs Davino in freestyle over the past year. Davino did beat Blaze in Folkstyle a few yrs back when they were both sophomores or juniors (went to tiebreakers). In freestyle it hasn’t been close and Davino hasn’t touched a leg.
Duke won’t have any issue with Cannon. tOSU best shot is 141,HWT and 125 if Bouzakis somehow puts Luke on his back. If Not Luke has his way with him
Great match example of the clash of two styles. Just one correction, though, instead of 2+2 it was a 4.
I got a couple of guys spooled up today by stating that Lee would have had a better record if he had gone to PSU. That's a touch subject with Hawk fans.
How many dual losses will Iowa have this season? They still have PSU, OSU, and OkSt. so this could be a 5-loss season. How many transfers will they bring in to right the ship for 2026-27?
My guess is he will want to stick it to Tom after all the National Dual crap. Plus its a BJC match.
Although, Cael may not care about either one of those.
What you really mean is how much money will Bob have to spend to right the ship.
Another BaschAMania that could have gone in the Social Media thread, but whose focus is so much on one subject that I'm putting in that thread.
0:00 - Intro & Some Football Talk
05:11 - CyHawk Dual
08:30 - Bastida Almost Majors Kueter
12:15 - Iowa’s Offensive Struggles Continue
29:05 - Bailey & Williams Getting Majored
34:13 - Ryder Block over Paniro
40:10 - Will Transfers Keep Getting Big Paydays if Some Flop?
55:40 - Angelo Ferrari beats Dean 2-1
01:02:15 - Rocky & Endene Main Event
01:09:30 - Ben Askren’s “Offer” to Coach Iowa
01:23:00 - Real American Freestyle 3
01:32:10 - RAF 3 Results
01:40:40 - Spencer Lee Gets Pinned
01:50:20 - Michael Chandler defeats Chad Mendes 5-0
0:00 - Intro & Some Football Talk
05:11 - CyHawk Dual
08:30 - Bastida Almost Majors Kueter
12:15 - Iowa’s Offensive Struggles Continue
29:05 - Bailey & Williams Getting Majored
34:13 - Ryder Block over Paniro
40:10 - Will Transfers Keep Getting Big Paydays if Some Flop?
55:40 - Angelo Ferrari beats Dean 2-1
01:02:15 - Rocky & Endene Main Event
01:09:30 - Ben Askren’s “Offer” to Coach Iowa
01:23:00 - Real American Freestyle 3
01:32:10 - RAF 3 Results
01:40:40 - Spencer Lee Gets Pinned
01:50:20 - Michael Chandler defeats Chad Mendes 5-0
I got a couple of guys spooled up today by stating that Lee would have had a better record if he had gone to PSU. That's a touch subject with Hawk fans.
Never touch the 3rd rail.
PSU definitely. Iowa matches up well against OKST, anOSU, and Nebraska.
How many transfers? At least 3, maybe 5.
2 at 125-141. Peterson and Ayala are seniors and Bailey looks cooked. DeLuca looks good but that's it.
157 or 165, or both. Caliendo is a SR and they can't be thrilled with Williams. Estrada might be ok for 1 spot.
174 if Arnold can't get down. Kennedy is a SR.
Maybe 197 but for now I'll say not. Endene is a SR. Ludington has yet to face a D1 opponent, but has pinned or teched everyone so far.
He enjoys crushing Tom's spirts as much as he enjoys tormenting TnT and the Hawk fans.
Bob doesn't have enough money to close the competitive gap.
He does. He doesn't have the brains to spend it correctly.
I will be taking Blaze over Davino, Duke over Cannon, and Lilledahl over Any in KYPSW.
I just hope Tom Ryan doesn't try to protect seeds. I know he's all about the duals, but he's already won that championship. Anyways, I won't be surprised one way or the other.
Honestly, Iowa is clearly the second best program over the past decade and it isn't really that close, so one could say those results support TnT as having a stellar track record. Who fires the heads of the second best program over a long period?
That said, if you take away the Spencer Lee effect and some temporary impact that had on both Nationals results and maybe some recruiting pull, the larger record of elite guys simply not developing into national champs is lengthy. "Iowa style" seems to be a thing of the past, and they have become too reliant on the portal without delivering.
Accompanying this slide, is the obvious techtonic shift of power, potential, buzz, and recruiting to OSU taking place, it seems the Brands are getting left behind on multiple levels. Chasing down tOSU, OSU, and maybe even VT ain't going to be easy. Losing Bo Bassett and Miller, especially due to a disagreement with the parents (no matter how challenging) may have been the last straw. I don't see their program adapting or recovering under their leadership.
It's looking more and more like they are the Nokia flip phone or BlackBerry of the smart phone revolution. Past greatness does not guarantee anything when the game is changing before your eyes.
In a sense is their predicament much different than the PSU football team under Franklin? Eventually it becomes time.
I think the Brands are talented, quite entertaining, and on balance good for the sport, but have lost their way manning a flagship 'institution' of a program. I doubt Iowa will put up with another year or two if the decline continues.
If they don't retire, I would like to see them revive some other program top 5-10ish prominence. I can see them doing that.
That said, if you take away the Spencer Lee effect and some temporary impact that had on both Nationals results and maybe some recruiting pull, the larger record of elite guys simply not developing into national champs is lengthy. "Iowa style" seems to be a thing of the past, and they have become too reliant on the portal without delivering.
Accompanying this slide, is the obvious techtonic shift of power, potential, buzz, and recruiting to OSU taking place, it seems the Brands are getting left behind on multiple levels. Chasing down tOSU, OSU, and maybe even VT ain't going to be easy. Losing Bo Bassett and Miller, especially due to a disagreement with the parents (no matter how challenging) may have been the last straw. I don't see their program adapting or recovering under their leadership.
It's looking more and more like they are the Nokia flip phone or BlackBerry of the smart phone revolution. Past greatness does not guarantee anything when the game is changing before your eyes.
In a sense is their predicament much different than the PSU football team under Franklin? Eventually it becomes time.
I think the Brands are talented, quite entertaining, and on balance good for the sport, but have lost their way manning a flagship 'institution' of a program. I doubt Iowa will put up with another year or two if the decline continues.
If they don't retire, I would like to see them revive some other program top 5-10ish prominence. I can see them doing that.
Don't forget, the match is at PSU this year. TR has a lot more to worry about than just our wrestlers - a long bus ride, average refs. Hopefully his team got their flu shots.
Who watches this match and thinks: "Yes, Davino is the better wrestler here"?
61 lbs 3rd Place Match - Marcus Blaze, Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) vs Benjamin Davino, Ohio RTC/ Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC)
61 lbs 3rd Place Match - Marcus Blaze, Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) vs Benjamin Davino, Ohio RTC/ Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC)
Turnpike too expensive to bring hell with him this time, too. Hopefully Snyder packed it when he left Columbus.
It is not just the second best program. Brands also fills CHA for every match and fund raises at an elite level. If it is all about the money (it is always all about the money) then he has a long, long leash with the AD.
tOSU fans and MSU158Who watches this match and thinks: "Yes, Davino is the better wrestler here"?
61 lbs 3rd Place Match - Marcus Blaze, Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) vs Benjamin Davino, Ohio RTC/ Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC)
61 lbs 3rd Place Match - Marcus Blaze, Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) vs Benjamin Davino, Ohio RTC/ Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC)www.flowrestling.org
I think if Tom can keep hell under 2 axles, he might be able to pull it off.
And this isn’t just because it’s in freestyle. Even in the 1 match Davino has won against Blaze (when he was a sophomore) he never got a td. He has always had trouble getting to Blaze’s legs and I don’t see that changing. I think Marcus is just a horrible matchup for Davino. He’s usually a high volume attacker but that feeds right into what Marcus does best so lately it seems like he’s been a bit more measured and really trying to use a ton of fakes, motion, and level changes. That hasn’t worked either. Davino is wrestling really well but I’ll be shocked if he beats BlazeWho watches this match and thinks: "Yes, Davino is the better wrestler here"?
61 lbs 3rd Place Match - Marcus Blaze, Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) vs Benjamin Davino, Ohio RTC/ Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC)
61 lbs 3rd Place Match - Marcus Blaze, Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) vs Benjamin Davino, Ohio RTC/ Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC)
That sure four time champ actually has a worse record than Bo Nickal Jason Nolf and Zane Retherford I believe.I got a couple of guys spooled up today by stating that Lee would have had a better record if he had gone to PSU. That's a touch subject with Hawk fans.
My buddy has said the same thing too lol.
But that one time - back in band campWho watches this match and thinks: "Yes, Davino is the better wrestler here"?
61 lbs 3rd Place Match - Marcus Blaze, Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) vs Benjamin Davino, Ohio RTC/ Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC)
61 lbs 3rd Place Match - Marcus Blaze, Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) vs Benjamin Davino, Ohio RTC/ Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC)
Brands doesn't fill CHA every match. Most matches are pretty empty (judging from broadcasts). They sell out season tickets because the cost is low and people come to the "big" matches and skip the others.
You forgot about Ed Ruth if you’re talking about guys who won three times and placed in a fourth. And we also have CStar and AB who both had better records, both in NCAA placement AND overall W/L records.
I can't believe Blaze and Davino made the cut to 61 lbs. That had to be brutal! Seriously though, I am amazed how consistently Flo labels freestyle weights in pounds. I've noticed it has been going on fairly consistently for several years now. You would think that would be an easy thing to not screw up.Who watches this match and thinks: "Yes, Davino is the better wrestler here"?
61 lbs 3rd Place Match - Marcus Blaze, Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) vs Benjamin Davino, Ohio RTC/ Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC)
61 lbs 3rd Place Match - Marcus Blaze, Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) vs Benjamin Davino, Ohio RTC/ Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC)
IMO it’s better for Penn State long term for the Brands to stick around as long as possible. I don’t know what their coaching aspirations are, but I’d be concerned if Iowa was able to replace Brands with Burroughs, Lee or Nolf
In 2024 they averaged 13,640 (91.6% of capacity). Not 100% but still better than anyone else by over 50%.
Of that list I believe Jason would make the best HC, with Burroughs second and Spencer last. Spencer's personality doesn't seem to fit for a HC.
