12 and 12 today and was huge in the 2nd half. Best big defensive player on the team and best rebounder. I love how everyone loves to tear her down, even in a win.
*****Iowa vs Indiana Game Thread*****
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Can someone please explain to me why late in the game with a lead like today we don't have at least 4 ball handlers and our top free throw shooters in? At that point we dont need rebounds as we arent even running the offense. Just take care of the ball and make free throws. Once we are on the line then sub in the post players for D if desired. Think i would rather have Levin or Deal in v.HS and AH in those situations. On a positive note great comeback. Great 2nd half especially KF. Time to get back to Carver and keep the streak going
Iowa is a strange team. They have some take talent but also a lot of limitations.
AVA H is one of the most skilled bigs in college bball, but also one of the least athletic. So it sometimes washes itself out
HS is a rebounding machine, but a liability on offense and at the FT line. A terrible finisher around the rim.
CC is dynamic…love her game. But she’s 5-4. It’s just gonna be an issue.
The Taylors are one dimensional.
The best talent (Journey, Addie) is young and raw.
So it s what it is. A bit of a strange hodge podge with a lot of skill and yet almost zero athleticism and playmaking.
AVA H is one of the most skilled bigs in college bball, but also one of the least athletic. So it sometimes washes itself out
HS is a rebounding machine, but a liability on offense and at the FT line. A terrible finisher around the rim.
CC is dynamic…love her game. But she’s 5-4. It’s just gonna be an issue.
The Taylors are one dimensional.
The best talent (Journey, Addie) is young and raw.
So it s what it is. A bit of a strange hodge podge with a lot of skill and yet almost zero athleticism and playmaking.
I understand we’re talking about fts, but HS was all over the floor in 2nd half and helped turn this game around. I thought Ava should have held the ball for the foul call but Ava was running clock, so tried to move the ball. Nobody in the wrong here.
Will not dismiss her athleticism, rebounding, defense, court play. Finished at the rim ('bunnies') for her FG's today, no perimeter shots. No intention to demean or denigrate her play, just a open interpretation after watching her game for 3-4 years. A shooter's roll/touch (?), unlikely.
Sullivan has hit 25 or more in 6 games this year. She’s just good.
Hard to argue that with Kylie. I thought Hannah did a really good job today too, defensively and rebounding. She switched out if Kylie got screened and shut Ciezki down too, got some steals, etc. She didn't shoot a ton, and wasn't out of control a lot when she did. (no, she should not be on the floor at fouling time)
Please tell Ava to get an angle and use the glass primarily. She's really good there, not so much in her hooks in front of the basket.
This is just silly. The only reason you believe Addie is the best talent on the team is because of her recruiting ranking. She's shown virtually nothing at the college level so far to justify your statement. There is no doubt whatsoever that Ava and Chit chat are the 2 best talents on this team and frankly it's not even close.
That was really bad. Chit-Chat (the one you want at the free throw line) & McCabe were the only ones on that side of the floor.
Definitely can't just call a timeout because you'd figure we had to. We didn't, couldn't have asked for a better scenario.
Oh well. Ugly road win is better than an ugly road loss.
She had a great second half. There's no doubt about that, but even you, perhaps Hannah's number one fan on here, has to question Jan's decision to have Hannah out there in a must foul situation to receive the ball at the end of the game. I think Jan's great, but that's one thing that makes me really question her in game decisions.
I can’t understand how we are 5-0 or whatever in the conference when we have terrible players who can’t shoot or create their own shot, play terrible defense, and have a coach who is an idiot as most of us know more than she does? 
. Would we want to trade our team and coach for the teams we have beaten? I watch, played, and coached basketball but I guess I don’t understand the game.
. Would we want to trade our team and coach for the teams we have beaten? I watch, played, and coached basketball but I guess I don’t understand the game.You don’t pay attention and you’re being simpleminded.
Addie and Journey have tons of talent. And they possess what CC and Ava lack. Athleticism and size for their position. Start paying attention.
You want Iowa to compete with the best of the best? Can’t be with a 5-4 pg and an interior skilled player without athleticism.
CC and AVa are Iowas two best players. For Iowa to elevate itself they MUST have players like Deal and Houston maximize their talent.,
Your'e making zero sense. Iowa would get destroyed with Deal at the point this year. Simple-minded is using a recruiting ranking to decide who plays.
Fans are funny that way.I can’t understand how we are 5-0 or whatever in the conference when we have terrible players who can’t shoot or create their own shot, play terrible defense, and have a coach who is an idiot as most of us know more than she does?
Ava not athletic?? Yes, yes she is
Yeah that timeout with 8 secs left was dumb really dumb. Couldn't believe they called that, whoever it was
Good comeback win though. They played with a ton more attensity the second half. Like they wanted to actually win the game. They were sleep walking the first half. It helps to start hitting a few shots as well
Good comeback win though. They played with a ton more attensity the second half. Like they wanted to actually win the game. They were sleep walking the first half. It helps to start hitting a few shots as well
Yeah, her mother said it wasn't true that she was named a captain.
Calling out Chit-Chat is simply crazy work. Going to be ABT before she is done. I can't even imagine what game you are watching. Did you miss the lane floaters?, the "need it" 3s?, the cross court bounce to Stuelke (outrunning everyone)?
Yeah she's 5'4. Probably the best passer and quickest player on the team, shoots 90%from the line, and can get a bucket 30' in. She's outstanding, and Iowa is lucky to have her.
Yeah she's 5'4. Probably the best passer and quickest player on the team, shoots 90%from the line, and can get a bucket 30' in. She's outstanding, and Iowa is lucky to have her.
But all they do is win...hmm.
Agree.
I just don't think the asst. coaches have any input during a game.
Or JJ is getting lost in the moment?
Using your fouls and TOs strategically wins or loses ballgames.
She has to know Hannah is a liability shooting FTs in a 4 pt game.
We've seen these head scratching decisions too many times.
Against the Michigans, Marylands, Ohio States, and UCLAs...you don't have much margin for error.
BTW: So I went back and watched the game highlights where HS got the pass from AH and the layup...HS's footwork is crazy bad. No wonder she misses half her layups!
And this is a senior in college.
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No idea. I guess you'd just have to ask her. She obviously has a lot of confidence in Hannah regardless of the situation. Otherwise she wouldn't be in there. I have a hard time believing that she just failed to realize that Hannah is the worst FT shooter on the team and the opponent is doing nothing but trying to send her to the line, but I've got nothing else, other than she's just going with her gut.
You lost me at Ava not being athletic, she has a lot of bounce in her legs, can run like crazy and has great post footwork and good hands. Hays on the other hand is limited athleticly, they will need to back fill behind Hays with another Ava type player in the future.
I'm happy we are undefeated but tempered a tad because we've beaten the three winless teams, a one win team and .500 Nebraska. The next six games will give a better feel for sure.
You don't always wait until you see who/where you get the ball....that's often a call you tell the refs you want before you even get possession.
Agree. The meat of the schedule lies ahead and will be season defining.
Question for you then. Would you have left Hannah in there for the end of game must foul situation to receive the ball, and if so, why?I can’t understand how we are 5-0 or whatever in the conference when we have terrible players who can’t shoot or create their own shot, play terrible defense, and have a coach who is an idiot as most of us know more than she does?
This is right on because moment you advance the ball with a dribble or pass you lose your right and advantage to move the ball into front court. You have to take the ball out of bounce where you called the TO.
Interesting. I suppose there's some sort of "strategy" to it, but the way it played out you couldn't have asked for a better scenario for Iowa.
Obviously she does. The team is 14-2. Doesn't mean that every decision she makes is unquestionably the right one either. That's just silly.
My thought is that actually inbounding the ball is primary concern, and practicing those plays with certain players builds a repetition trust for the players. Getting open and getting the ball in taking precedence over the second part (shooting the foul shots). Maybe Stuelke is better at setting a screen and getting the primary player a chance?
You'd assume the inbound is plug and play, or that they would practice for that scenario. I wish they were better at it overall throughout a game, but I also wish they could shoot contested shots and dunk.
This. Ava is the most athletic pure 5 we've had in a long time. She's runs, jumps, and when she makes a turn toward the basket in the post she often just blows by her defender with her quickness. She had a lower shooting percentage in this game, but it's not like that's a trend.
How many teams in the B1G would Ava not be starting for? UCLA is probably the only one. Maybe Michigan State, but it would be a close competition.
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Totally agree. Rough offensive game yesterday, but even after that game she's still shooting 63% for the season and in conference which is terrific and good for 7th nationally. The previous 2 games she shot 80% and 82% with a lot of attempts, including mid range facing the basket. She's been killing it this year, and pretty much the only thing that's been slowing her down is foul trouble.
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Not sure what rest of the season holds for this team, but having her around for two more years plus returning players and incoming 5 star recruit I would say the future looks very solid.
There's a lot that goes into it I'm sure. Inbounding the ball successfully is paramount I guess, but why can't you have both, and practice with that in mind ? This team doesn't appear to have a lot of good to great free throw shooters, Chit-Chat obviously, Kylie seems pretty reliable, all the "tall" girls are pedestrian or worse. It's a pressure situation of course, but it's still a normal Basketball activity.
I guess I look at this situation similar to the "hands team" on an onside kick in Football. The majority are going to be skill position types, and you definitely want those guys touching the ball 100% of the time. I feel the same way about having good foul shooters out there.
For as much as we all disliked Fran's "team defense" efforts, he seemed to find a way to get the ball to the slowest and shortest guy out there with a small lead and the game on the line in Jordan Bohannon. And that guy was a CLOSER!
If Fran could do it, I don't see why Jan couldn't as well.
Whatever team you root for, when you see who is on the floor, your mind automatically goes to "I hope the ball doesn't end up in Player X's hands". And sometimes it does.
I didn't get that one either. She'd run circles around Monica C and beat her down the floor by 10 ft. and she was a 2100pt scorer. What do people think Ava would look like playing with CC22 and her gang of three year starters? She'd put up 20+ and 10 boards every game.
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We'll see on Hays. She never played against anyone in high school her size so this has been a real adjustment. We'll see what Jan and Randi can do with her in a full off season. We'll have bigger (no pun intended) needs in the off season with just one player in the 26 class and we'll need help in the back court much worse.