Is Hutzler getting better

OopsICroomedmypants

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or does he still suck? Seems to me that he may have been trying something the first few games that he mistakenly thought would work. After that he's changed and looked better, albeit he is crippled by lack of talent. I was pleasantly surprised with the effort today and the success of the run defense in the first half especially. You could tell a big difference after D. Russell left the game.
 

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Today was better but you’re also talking about Texas with a backup QB, even if it’s the most hyped backup QB in the country. They also helped us out some (lots of penalties, dropped an easy TD in the first half, took 3 points off the board for…. Reasons)
 

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We played much better D for 3Q.

Yes, they had some penalties that helped. But our alignments were better, we were able to generate some pressure on Manning and we tackled a little better.

The main issue is that other than Smith, who didn’t play, I don’t know that we have a single defensive player that has any chance of even making an NFL practice squad for a year. I don’t know if we’ve ever been able to say that.

I saw more “our guy simply can’t cover their guy” today than we simply didn’t know what to do or missed 5 routine tackles.
 

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I remember seeing right around halftime they had 1 yard rushing and it was the lowest rushing total they had in 50 years or so. I’m judging him more on the first half being he has half of a defensive roster. The defensive alignments were good for the down and distance and when we got beat it wasn’t because of blown coverage. I can think of 1 td pass where our safety bit and he paid, but that was the safety’s fault.
 

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Well, the bar for getting better was pretty low, but yeah, we looked better. I thought Sark helped us a little with his play calling, the TX WR helped by dropping an easy TD pass, and Lebby and the offense helped a LOT by keeping control of the ball for 2/3 of the first half. But defense played well until they ran out of gas late in the 3rd quarter.
 
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Great gameplan by Lebby. Run clock to keep the defense off the field. Hutzler benefitted as a result. I was shocked that we were able to run the ball up the middle on Texas. Personally, I believe Sark had his boosters betting on State with the points to improve their recruiting class.
 

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Great gameplan by Lebby. Run clock to keep the defense off the field. Hutzler benefitted as a result. I was shocked that we were able to run the ball up the middle on Texas. Personally, I believe Sark had his boosters betting on State with the points to improve their recruiting class.
Or maybe TX isn’t the best team in the league after all. I don’t think they would have beaten Alabama or Georgia yesterday. And Tennessee may be better than all 3 of them.
 

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Certainly we tackled better with a few notable exceptions, mostly late.
I also saw a couple of better blitz designs, and more man coverage (they did run away from man coverage a couple of times). I will say one of the long TD passes was against our let-me-telegraph-this blitz style, so it’s not totally gone.
I’ll take it as a positive overall.
 
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The running game was great! We knew we we're running it, Texas knew we were running it, and we still were getting 4-5 yard gains. This offense can't get behind the chains.
 
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or does he still suck? Seems to me that he may have been trying something the first few games that he mistakenly thought would work. After that he's changed and looked better, albeit he is crippled by lack of talent. I was pleasantly surprised with the effort today and the success of the run defense in the first half especially. You could tell a big difference after D. Russell left the game.
Or players are learning. Or both.
 

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This really is a rebuilding year. We really have never witnessed anything close to what we are going through. We literally have an entirely new team with an entirely new coaching staff, which itself has never been head coach, d-coordinator, etc before.

I am pumping the brakes on my attack on our coaching staff. Hutzler will be our D coordinator at least for the rest of the year. it’s in everyone’s best interest that he figure all of this out. If I see continued improvement game to game, the I honestly am not concerned about wins and losses (except Umass, that just can’t happen). This year was going to suck no matter what.
 

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No. Our opponent had all our game film, they knew they'd win by 3+ tds. They just played lazy.
 

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The talent gap between us and Texas is insane. There was not a single position on the field where we had a player even close to being as good as they did. They were going to win. I don’t understand the people on here bound and determined to find stats that show how terrible we are. We ARE terrible. We have virtually no SEC talent. What I saw in that game was a team that didn’t lay down (they sure as hell could have after what has happened so far) and an excellent game strategy considering what we have and what we were up against. Those of you who are not happy with the performance yesterday, please tell me realistically what you wanted to see? Us suddenly manhandling the number one team in the country?
 

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No. The D still played bad today. Go watch Mannings run to goalline and look for #7 on our team. This should have been a killshot moment for a middle backer, but he was scared of getting blocked. Super baby soft. Every QB has a career day against us.
 

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We are #118 out of 133 teams in total defense, giving up 437 yds/gm and 6.2 yds/play. Yesterday, we gave up another 522

I guess the improvement that people are pointing to is the fact that we actually saw guys giving effort yesterday, but that is the bare minimum that should be expected from a coaching staff, and it’s still a huge red flag that it took 5 games to get a glimpse of players caring.
 

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We played better, yesterday. Maybe he is getting the fan message to get better or get out. We still aren’t very good. Two weeks can allow some of our guys to return to health.
 
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In 2017, Hutzler was nominated for the Broyles Award, which goes to the nation's top assistant coach.

Maybe it's the lack of talent and not the coach.
Or Maybe he had a lot of talent on that 2017 team that didn't need a coach
 
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This really is a rebuilding year. We really have never witnessed anything close to what we are going through. We literally have an entirely new team with an entirely new coaching staff, which itself has never been head coach, d-coordinator, etc before.

I am pumping the brakes on my attack on our coaching staff. Hutzler will be our D coordinator at least for the rest of the year. it’s in everyone’s best interest that he figure all of this out. If I see continued improvement game to game, the I honestly am not concerned about wins and losses (except Umass, that just can’t happen). This year was going to suck no matter what.
I'll admit that I want to like Hutzler. He is young and has a little fire, plus he doesn't look like a dubmass like some coaches I see. Shirley he's smart enough to keep adjusting the defense as needed. Of course, I've seen some bad d coordinators at MSU over the years.
 

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In 2017, Hutzler was nominated for the Broyles Award, which goes to the nation's top assistant coach.

Maybe it's the lack of talent and not the coach.
He was the special teams coach & part-time LB coach that year. Not a defensive coordinator.
 

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Fellas you can hate on him if you want and I could be wrong but I have a feeling if these guys don't know how to coach they are gonna figure it out together right here at State. I don't know if him and Cody are any good but I bet they don't get canned at least for 4 years. I bet if anybody gets fired it's Turner and they bring in a younger Dl coach. This is gonna be a project
 
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Today was better but you’re also talking about Texas with a backup QB, even if it’s the most hyped backup QB in the country. They also helped us out some (lots of penalties, dropped an easy TD in the first half, took 3 points off the board for…. Reasons)
They were also playing way down more than likely. Looking to future games.
 
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In 2017, Hutzler was nominated for the Broyles Award, which goes to the nation's top assistant coach.

Maybe it's the lack of talent and not the coach.
Didn't Moorhead win the OC award? If you have the players winning awards is easier.
 
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