I thought self determination and being self reliant was a good trait. Somebody needs to call Merkel on that!
It's unbelievable how quickly Trumplethinskin was able to fracture an alliance which has been beneficial to the national security of the US and our allies. 4 months and he has our NATO allies mad at us. But the Russians love us now, apparently despite having 6000 nukes pointed at us.. So there's that.I thought self determination and being self reliant was a good trait. Somebody needs to call Merkel on that!
It's unbelievable how quickly Trumplethinskin was able to fracture an alliance which has been beneficial to the national security of the US and our allies. 4 months and he has our NATO allies mad at us. But the Russians love us now, apparently despite having 6000 nukes pointed at us.. So there's that.
Or she may also be concerned that she can't depend on the biggest member of NATO which is what she said.Merkel is ticked that the UK left the EU (where she was functionally in charge) and that the U.S. is forcing Germany to pay up and live up to their financial commitments. She wants a free ride. She is also worried that the migrant crisis will expand out of control and she will be blamed.
Or she may also be concerned that she can't depend on the biggest member of NATO which is what she said.
You can guess all you want but what she says about the U.S. is true and a comfort to Russia. Russia loves the idea of a weakened NATO and our lack of unwavering support for it. Will we have any allies left by the time Trump is done?If she starts paying her NATO bills, maybe she will get more comfort. But she made her comments about the UK in addition to the U.S. Me thinks she is throwing a temper tantrum because she is not getting her way. Doubling her defense budget is huge and takes money away from her other spending priorities.
You can guess all you want but what she says about the U.S. is true and a comfort to Russia. Russia loves the idea of a weakened NATO and our lack of unwavering support for it. Will we have any allies left by the time Trump is done?
Do you honestly believe if a NATO member was in trouble we wouldn't assist? Honestly? I had my doubts the last 8 years but I have zero right now. Weren't you one of the individuals claiming Trump would have us into a war with someone new within his first term? If so, that line of thinking seems counter to our support of NATO.You can guess all you want but what she says about the U.S. is true and a comfort to Russia. Russia loves the idea of a weakened NATO and our lack of unwavering support for it. Will we have any allies left by the time Trump is done?
Ever heard of "NATO is obsolete" (Donald Trump)? He's made other comments since he took office that don't inspire NATO's confidence in us. I don't blame her for challenging the U.S. In response to her comments, Trump could have stepped up and confirmed that we're unequivocally behind NATO and diminish our differences but not, he just complains about German car sales and our trade deficit with them. smh Hopefully we can restore out relationships with traditional allies after Trump is gone.She is the one making these remarks weakening NATO, not trump. Putin is laughing in delight. To blast the British and the US like that was incredibly stupid on her part. Trump is right to call out Germany for its freeloading with NATO. Even the British press, who hate trump, are blasting her remarks.
Ever heard of "NATO is obsolete" (Donald Trump)? He's made other comments since he took office that don't inspire NATO's confidence in us. I don't blame her for challenging the U.S. In response to her comments, Trump could have stepped up and confirmed that we're unequivocally behind NATO and diminish our differences but not, he just complains about German car sales and our trade deficit with them. smh Hopefully we can restore out relationships with traditional allies after Trump is gone.
Obviously Merkel doesn't believe him and I don't blame her.You do not read very much. Trump reaffirmed his support for NATO several times. Germany needs to pay up.
http://usaradio.com/2017/04/13/trump-reaffirms-support-for-nato-russian-relations-at-all-time-low/
http://www.defenddemocracy.press/trump-reaffirms-support-for-nato/
Do you think the NATO members should pay what they agreed to pay?Or she may also be concerned that she can't depend on the biggest member of NATO which is what she said.
Sure, why not?Do you think the NATO members should pay what they agreed to pay?
Obviously Merkel doesn't believe him and I don't blame her.
Trump gave a speech to NATO leaders, but it's what he left out that got their attention
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/25/trump-does-not-mention-support-for-article-5-in-nato-speech.html
Obviously Merkel doesn't believe him and I don't blame her.
Trump gave a speech to NATO leaders, but it's what he left out that got their attention
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/25/trump-does-not-mention-support-for-article-5-in-nato-speech.html
Words have meaning (for most people). Trump defenders defend Trump, that's what they do.But he didn't say the words!
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Read much? scroll up. As usual you attempt to change the subject to payment issues because you can't defend his mealy mouth "support" of NATO.Trump is insisting they pay their fair share, what they agreed to. This is not complicated but it does not surprise me that you are having a very difficult time grasping this concept. NATO agreement is very specific in terms of obligations.
Read much? scroll up. As usual you attempt to change the subject to payment issues because you can't defend his mealy mouth "support" of NATO.
Words have meaning (for most people). Trump defenders defend Trump, that's what they do.
The NATO contract stipulates that those Euopean countries pay 2% of their GDP, theyh are in violation and have been for decades. It's time for them to grow up and take care of themselves.Read much? scroll up. As usual you attempt to change the subject to payment issues because you can't defend his mealy mouth "support" of NATO.
Apparently you can't read, good luck on learning how. If NATO members don't believe what Trump says regarding support then I don't blame them for making other plans regarding the future security of their countries.Trump has stated he supports NATO. The head of NATO has stated that Germany is not living up to their financial obligations. What part of this do you not understand?
We currently fund 76% of NATO operations. Trump is going to change that and Merkel will have little to nothing to say about it.
Where did I say it was wrong?calling out all those cheap skate, socialist countries that can't pay their bills is wrong?
Russia loves the idea of a weakened NATO and our lack of unwavering support for it. Will we have any allies left by the time Trump is done?
That's the premise of your "Trump" isn't dependable. The fact is, Socialists aren't dependable, themselves.Where did I say it was wrong?
So you agree with Trump that Germany should pony up? I personally think we have done enough for Germany over the years.Sure, why not?
As I stated, I feel that Trump weakens NATO when he doesn't give unwavering support (with his words) to them. Once you call them obsolete, if you want to convince people that you've done a 180 on those remarks, you pretty much need to confirm your support in all ways possible to them every chance you get. I (and some NATO allies) don't believe that he's done that. Fortunately others in the Trump admin have tried to reaffirm U.S. support.Trump is not weakening NATO by telling it's members to pay their fair share of the expenses. If they did live up to their financial obligations NATO would be much stronger, not weaker
You're as bad as patx, a blatant liar that makes up ****. Scroll up to my response to bornaneer. Try not to be an idiot and a liar, K?That's the premise of your "Trump" isn't dependable. The fact is, Socialists aren't dependable, themselves.
Who has weakened NATO? Germany needs to pay their bills just line they agreed to pay. Germany is the one not keeping the agreement. All trump did was point out they are deadbeats.You can guess all you want but what she says about the U.S. is true and a comfort to Russia. Russia loves the idea of a weakened NATO and our lack of unwavering support for it. Will we have any allies left by the time Trump is done?
If they or any other country is not meeting their legal obligations to be in NATO, then they should. Even though I've already told you yes ("sure") once above, will the preceding statement suffice? I'm not a lawyer but I've seen some say that no NATO country owes any more than they're paying now nor owes us anything in back payment but for the sake of this thread I'll assume that any country not meeting their financial "target", needs to pay more. Trump wants money and Europe wants unequivocal U.S. support, the two sides need to get together.So you agree with Trump that Germany should pony up? I personally think we have done enough for Germany over the years.
They did get together last week and your president told them to pay their bills.If they or any other country is not meeting their legal obligations to be in NATO, then they should. Even though I've already told you yes ("sure") once above, will the preceding statement suffice? I'm not a lawyer but I've seen some say that no NATO country owes any more than they're paying now nor owes us anything in back payment but for the sake of this thread I'll assume that any country not meeting their financial "target", needs to pay more. Trump wants money and Europe wants unequivocal U.S. support, the two sides need to get together.
Yes....I was wondering what the question mark was about.If they or any other country is not meeting their legal obligations to be in NATO, then they should. Even though I've already told you yes ("sure") once above, will the preceding statement suffice?
As I stated, I feel that Trump weakens NATO when he doesn't give unwavering support (with his words) to them. Once you call them obsolete, if you want to convince people that you've done a 180 on those remarks, you pretty much need to confirm your support in all ways possible to them every chance you get. I (and some NATO allies) don't believe that he's done that. Fortunately others in the Trump admin have tried to reaffirm U.S. support.
There lack of payment goes back decades, this is not a Trump issue. He is making it one and will force them to pay up.Apparently you can't read, good luck on learning how. If NATO members don't believe what Trump says regarding support then I don't blame them for making other plans regarding the future security of their countries.
The only hatred I see is Germany. They don't pay their bills.
And the guy lecturing them about paying bills has declared bankruptcy four times.
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If they or any other country is not meeting their legal obligations to be in NATO, then they should.
And the real moron is the dumbfuk who doesnt understand bankruptcy and running a business. Why are you so damn stupid?And the guy lecturing them about paying bills has declared bankruptcy four times.
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And the guy lecturing them about paying bills has declared bankruptcy four times.
You've obviously never been in business nor know anything about it. But if one has the ability to pay and does not pay, that is not bankruptcy. That is shirking your responsibilities and Germany is clearly shirking their responsibilities and need to be called out. They are a very wealthy country.