Is it assumed Alvaro returns?

Max Rebo

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As Leistikow pointed out on the latest Hawk Central podcast, Alvaro is expensive. He was legendary in the tournament, but his overall production through the season probably didn't match what the team had invested in him. As Iowa looks to hit the portal for a big man and a guard, it could come down to a numbers game for someone like Alvaro.
 

DuddyB

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As Leistikow pointed out on the latest Hawk Central podcast, Alvaro is expensive. He was legendary in the tournament, but his overall production through the season probably didn't match what the team had invested in him. As Iowa looks to hit the portal for a big man and a guard, it could come down to a numbers game for someone like Alvaro.
100% agree. Seems like they may have a numbers game at that position as well between Thompson, Harris, Koch and Sage (maybe even Banks).

If I’m a GM and taking the emotion out of it. I’m probably reallocating that investment to a PG and true Center. I love Alvaro and think he has a lot of upside but I’d probably let him walk.
 

The Big Z

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He averaged 8 pts a game. 8. He had some big moments obviously in the tournament, Florida, Nebraska, but 60% of the time at least he was a no show as evidenced by his final stat line. Hes skilled for sure but as physical as the Big Ten is he will always just be a role player for us. Now granted 6-10 guys that can hit the 3 are not easy to find but he’s an enigma. If he’s got an agent prepping him for big money I’m not sure he’s the right fit here for that. He needs 10-15 lbs of muscle in the offseason to continue to being an effective player as a stretch 5.
 

Rambler Hawk

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He will always be a legend in Iowa City, but definitely not worth a high paycheck. Honestly, his ball handling skills are very suspect around the rim. He was able to back down defenders against lower competition, but struggled against better competition during the season. IMHO
 

DShawkeye

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It's no secret that players are getting recruited didn't the tournament. I'm guessing schools liked his size and skillset and can make a good pitch on how he'd be utilized in their system.
 

oldxbbc

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As Leistikow pointed out on the latest Hawk Central podcast, Alvaro is expensive. He was legendary in the tournament, but his overall production through the season probably didn't match what the team had invested in him. As Iowa looks to hit the portal for a big man and a guard, it could come down to a numbers game for someone like Alvaro.
Unfortunately true in NIL era which this 68 year old despises!
 

Lionhawk85

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Money aside, I see two important things he’ll be considering - one a plus and one a negative for us.

On the plus side, he clearly loves his teammates and culture he’s experienced with this team and program. It can’t be easy essentially being “the new guy” everywhere without any close family or supporting network. He clearly has that as a positive for Iowa vs the unknown wherever else he may consider.

On the negative side (meaning pulling against us). He likely could go somewhere that will guarantee him 30+ minutes per game every game. I don’t know that Ben can (or should) guarantee that because each game will be very matchup oriented and as others have pointed out, the physical nature of the BIG will dictate some things. AF had challenges defending and even getting good looks vs IL.

I love the dude and hope he is back!
 

Old_wrestling_fan2

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Money aside, I see two important things he’ll be considering - one a plus and one a negative for us.

On the plus side, he clearly loves his teammates and culture he’s experienced with this team and program. It can’t be easy essentially being “the new guy” everywhere without any close family or supporting network. He clearly has that as a positive for Iowa vs the unknown wherever else he may consider.

On the negative side (meaning pulling against us). He likely could go somewhere that will guarantee him 30+ minutes per game every game. I don’t know that Ben can (or should) guarantee that because each game will be very matchup oriented and as others have pointed out, the physical nature of the BIG will dictate some things. AF had challenges defending and even getting good looks vs IL.

I love the dude and hope he is back!
FWIW, I think you nailed it. ^^ I am under the understanding that Alvaro was the highest $ NIL guy this year for IA. He's a really cool guy, but not a banger and not someone that is likely to average 14+ points per game v. big teams.

At least Stirtz could have commanded more NIL $$'s here this past year and in effect, he facilitated the team that way too. If he would have demanded more, maybe IA isn't able to afford Alvaro in the first place???

He definitely loves it here, but I suspect someone out there will show up with a bigger bag. Just my opinion.
 
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I think we would all like to see Alvaro be a poor man's version of Momcilovic, the great Iowa State sharpshooter. I just don't think he's got those skills, or those skills consistently.

Yet there's no disputing he's got a nice looking shot from beyond the arc.
 
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Is threat a threat to maybe go home? You could tell how much seeing his family watch him play meant to him, makes you wonder if he wants to be closer to them.
Except his mom sent him to the US when he was 16, knowing no English, for better opportunities. Of course, that was a different time, so if I were him and had a chance to play in Spain, I might be tempted to bid the US adios. But who knows. It's complicated, I imagine, for all kinds of reasons.

Alvaro is easy to appreciate as a human being, and his basketball skills were on full display in the NCAA vs. Nebraska and Florida, but he was a no-show vs. Illinois, which is pretty much the story of his Iowa career so far. Love to keep him if he could just develop some normal consistency.
 

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It will come down to $.
I have no inside info, but I would be surprised if money were the deciding factor. It wasn't for Stirtz and Banks. Alvaro doesn't seem like the kind of person who would be swayed by money. I believe that's way down on his list. He seems too real, too sincere, too insightful to fall for the money pitch.
 

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Can't assume anything in the era of NIL. As much as I like Al, he was way too inconsistent. Is it possible he can make a leap from year 1 to year 2 in Ben's system? Yes, but he's reportedly really expensive, and there's no guarantee he will change.
 
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Franisdaman

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I would not be surprised if Iowa & Alvaro part ways.

As you can see below, he cost IOWA at least $1 MILLION this season. Is an inconsistent player worth that? You might say "yes" after what he did in our postseason run but what about for one more year? Alvaro "showed up" about half the time this season and Ben obviously doesn't care for those types of players.

Will Ben want to put up with his up & down play for another year? Or, is Ben ready to move on to second year player Trey Thompson, who has an amazing offensive game (& his defense is about there, too, per Ben)?

From Leistikow's postgame column:

On a related note: Why did Alvaro Folgueiras disappear?​

The hero of Iowa’s NCAA Tournament run was a non-factor against Illinois: Zero points, zero rebounds, zero assists, two turnovers in nine minutes.

McCollum was piping mad at Folgueiras during his first stint coming off the bench.
The 6-10 junior who delivered the winning shot against top seed Florida and had scored 44 points in Iowa’s first three NCAA games played only 1:46 in the second half.

“I feel bad. I never got in the game. Those early mistakes, my coach thinks I wasn’t ready to go,” Folgueiras said in an honest postgame interview. “In the Elite Eight, I would never let that happen. This March was great. I had some great moments. It just wasn’t there (today) … as a team and as a player. I feel bad.”

McCollum has been frustrated with Folgueiras’ inconsistency since the Robert Morris transfer arrived. Facing Illinois requires a physical brand of basketball, McCollum said, and that’s not the lankier Folgueiras’ strength. So, McCollum opted to go with more of 6-9 Manyawu (four points, five rebounds, three assists, 26 minutes) at the “5” spot.

“It was a tough game for Al,” McCollum said. “Cam is such a big body, and so he's just strong. Al, it was just hard. He had to play the 5. We just don't have a true 5.”

Folgueiras was a big-ticket acquisition in the transfer portal. His future will be interesting to watch. He said it was his “intention” to return to Iowa for his final season of college eligibility but would meet with coaches soon about it. Dollars will be a part of that conversation, surely. And it’s hard to imagine McCollum wanting to commit seven figures again to an inconsistent player.

Thus, it’s possible that Folgueiras doesn’t play again for the Hawkeyes. But we'll see.

“He was frustrated, that’s why I didn’t play very much,” Folgueiras said. “That’s the reality of it. I’m just glad he can be real. It’s my job to come back better.”

 

Franisdaman

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Iowa (24-13) was 15-1 this season when Alvaro showed up and scored in double figures.

Iowa was 9-12 when he didn't.


 
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I like him. He's got talent and will forever be a Hawkeye Legend.

So, with all due respect to AF - is that what you get for $1 million??


 

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I have no inside info, but I would be surprised if money were the deciding factor. It wasn't for Stirtz and Banks. Alvaro doesn't seem like the kind of person who would be swayed by money. I believe that's way down on his list. He seems too real, too sincere, too insightful to fall for the money pitch.
How Iowa wants to spend its NIL money is also a factor. It has become Moneyball.
 

BringBackBradBanks

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I was thinking it’s crazy the swings (pun intended) Al had in the Florida game. I think the officials got it right with the double technical and Al wasn’t trying to punch anybody obviously but even if he just mistakingly made contact or the guy moved, he could have made contact and got thrown out. Heck I was scared the refs were going to throw him out anyways because Florida was throwing a fit. Sure glad they did the right thing!
 

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I would not be surprised if Iowa & Alvaro part ways.

As you can see below, he cost IOWA at least $1 MILLION this season. Is an inconsistent player worth that? You might say "yes" after what he did in our postseason run but what about for one more year? Alvaro "showed up" about half the time this season and Ben obviously doesn't care for those types of players.

Will Ben want to put up with his up & down play for another year? Or, is Ben ready to move on to second year player Trey Thompson, who has an amazing offensive game (& his defense is about there, too, per Ben)?

From Leistikow's postgame column:

On a related note: Why did Alvaro Folgueiras disappear?​

The hero of Iowa’s NCAA Tournament run was a non-factor against Illinois: Zero points, zero rebounds, zero assists, two turnovers in nine minutes.

McCollum was piping mad at Folgueiras during his first stint coming off the bench. The 6-10 junior who delivered the winning shot against top seed Florida and had scored 44 points in Iowa’s first three NCAA games played only 1:46 in the second half.

“I feel bad. I never got in the game. Those early mistakes, my coach thinks I wasn’t ready to go,” Folgueiras said in an honest postgame interview. “In the Elite Eight, I would never let that happen. This March was great. I had some great moments. It just wasn’t there (today) … as a team and as a player. I feel bad.”

McCollum has been frustrated with Folgueiras’ inconsistency since the Robert Morris transfer arrived. Facing Illinois requires a physical brand of basketball, McCollum said, and that’s not the lankier Folgueiras’ strength. So, McCollum opted to go with more of 6-9 Manyawu (four points, five rebounds, three assists, 26 minutes) at the “5” spot.

“It was a tough game for Al,” McCollum said. “Cam is such a big body, and so he's just strong. Al, it was just hard. He had to play the 5. We just don't have a true 5.”

Folgueiras was a big-ticket acquisition in the transfer portal. His future will be interesting to watch. He said it was his “intention” to return to Iowa for his final season of college eligibility but would meet with coaches soon about it. Dollars will be a part of that conversation, surely. And it’s hard to imagine McCollum wanting to commit seven figures again to an inconsistent player.

Thus, it’s possible that Folgueiras doesn’t play again for the Hawkeyes. But we'll see.

“He was frustrated, that’s why I didn’t play very much,” Folgueiras said. “That’s the reality of it. I’m just glad he can be real. It’s my job to come back better.”

I agree, not a great BBall IQ fit IMO
 
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Franisdaman

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I know he had a bad start in the Illinois game but it would have been nice to have him in there after that 6-0 Illinois run.

A lot of blame could go around, imo. Since 6'10" Alvaro was not on the court, he can't be blamed for IOWA being abused 40-12 in points in the paint. ;)

IOWA got abused on 2nd chance points, too (13-7).

Ben, essentially, ended up only playing 7 guys in the 2nd half; I think their tired legs affected their shots.

In the 1st half we shot 57% (12-21) from the field.

In the 2nd half we only shot 23% (6-26) from the field.

The details:

1st Half Scoring:

........6-12 (50%) from three
.............6-9 (67%) from inside the arc
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12-21 (57%) Overall Shooting

..........2-2 (100%) FTs
....................................................................
32 Points Scored
=====================

2nd Half Scoring:

........5-18 (28%) from three
.............1-8 (12%) from inside the arc
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....6-26 (23%) Overall Shooting

..10-12 (83%) FTs
....................................................................
27 Points Scored
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Franisdaman

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Sounds like he’s gone. Hopefully we can replace him with a good player.

have there been other, recent reports of him on his way out?

i would think the only way he stays is if he takes a huge pay cut. His name, image & likeness turned out to be less than one million. ;)
 

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I would not be surprised if Iowa & Alvaro part ways.

As you can see below, he cost IOWA at least $1 MILLION this season. Is an inconsistent player worth that? You might say "yes" after what he did in our postseason run but what about for one more year? Alvaro "showed up" about half the time this season and Ben obviously doesn't care for those types of players.

Will Ben want to put up with his up & down play for another year? Or, is Ben ready to move on to second year player Trey Thompson, who has an amazing offensive game (& his defense is about there, too, per Ben)?

From Leistikow's postgame column:

On a related note: Why did Alvaro Folgueiras disappear?​

The hero of Iowa’s NCAA Tournament run was a non-factor against Illinois: Zero points, zero rebounds, zero assists, two turnovers in nine minutes.

McCollum was piping mad at Folgueiras during his first stint coming off the bench.
The 6-10 junior who delivered the winning shot against top seed Florida and had scored 44 points in Iowa’s first three NCAA games played only 1:46 in the second half.

“I feel bad. I never got in the game. Those early mistakes, my coach thinks I wasn’t ready to go,” Folgueiras said in an honest postgame interview. “In the Elite Eight, I would never let that happen. This March was great. I had some great moments. It just wasn’t there (today) … as a team and as a player. I feel bad.”

McCollum has been frustrated with Folgueiras’ inconsistency since the Robert Morris transfer arrived. Facing Illinois requires a physical brand of basketball, McCollum said, and that’s not the lankier Folgueiras’ strength. So, McCollum opted to go with more of 6-9 Manyawu (four points, five rebounds, three assists, 26 minutes) at the “5” spot.

“It was a tough game for Al,” McCollum said. “Cam is such a big body, and so he's just strong. Al, it was just hard. He had to play the 5. We just don't have a true 5.”

Folgueiras was a big-ticket acquisition in the transfer portal. His future will be interesting to watch. He said it was his “intention” to return to Iowa for his final season of college eligibility but would meet with coaches soon about it. Dollars will be a part of that conversation, surely. And it’s hard to imagine McCollum wanting to commit seven figures again to an inconsistent player.

Thus, it’s possible that Folgueiras doesn’t play again for the Hawkeyes. But we'll see.

“He was frustrated, that’s why I didn’t play very much,” Folgueiras said. “That’s the reality of it. I’m just glad he can be real. It’s my job to come back better.”

When he had a steal and then had it stolen back and I seen Ben's reaction on tv has was out for quite a while and never made it back
 

HawkBall23

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I'm truly on the fence about wanting Alvaro back or not.

As we well know, when he scored double-digits in games, Iowa was 15-1. And below .500 when he didn't.

So that's empirical evidence that when he does play well, he's a great benefit to his team. And when he doesn't, he was more often than not a net negative, on both sides of the ball.


If he can work on being more consistent in being positively productive, he could be a very valuable returning piece.

He'll see limited minutes again next season if he remains as inconsistent as this past season.
 

Old_wrestling_fan2

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With Thompson and Harris maybe it is for the best. Hawks could target a PG and Big with the money they spent on Stirtz, Hausen and Folgy.
FWIW, I see it similarly and I really like Alvaro. In this day of NIL and roster fluidity...you pretty much have to approach it this way IMO. I don't really like it, but that's where things are.