Is it bad that I hope this team loses as many games possible?
- Thread starter 38843dawg
- Start date
as opposed to letting Crooms hang on longer and longer to waste time, resources, and money
This team needs to keep losing to have a disasterous season so that we get closer to making a change. This team isnt going anywhere anyway this season- might as well lose big to help us get closer to making the future of the program better.
This team needs to keep losing to have a disasterous season so that we get closer to making a change. This team isnt going anywhere anyway this season- might as well lose big to help us get closer to making the future of the program better.
even with Croom - if we had a chance of a bowl - I was rooting for State and him.
And Stansbury is not even close to Croom as far as suckitude.
And Stansbury is not even close to Croom as far as suckitude.
this game is in single digits. He makes that much of a difference with this team. It was obvious when we even played Belhaven.
believing he makes up a 22 point margin. Bost isn't going to help cut out all those offensive rebounds we give up. And he's not going help our poor post defense. Make no mistake that Bost will certainly help, but the problem with this team is well beyond missing Dee Bost.
VA Tech work harder on defense thus not making them as efficient on offense.
Penetration would opened up more open shots.
His scoring would have taken some heat off of Ravern, Sidney (yea, I know), and Kodi.
Plus,I don't see him playing the 2 guard when he comes back. That experiment might last a couple of games.
I'm telling you - he would have made VA Tech score 15 less and us score about 10 more.
And finally - you just don't have his leadership on the floor. No one out there is vocal with this team except maybe Elgin from what I have seen and who wants to listen to Elgin?
Penetration would opened up more open shots.
His scoring would have taken some heat off of Ravern, Sidney (yea, I know), and Kodi.
Plus,I don't see him playing the 2 guard when he comes back. That experiment might last a couple of games.
I'm telling you - he would have made VA Tech score 15 less and us score about 10 more.
And finally - you just don't have his leadership on the floor. No one out there is vocal with this team except maybe Elgin from what I have seen and who wants to listen to Elgin?
Whatever. That is just 17ed up thinking. I want State to win no matter who the coach is. I am not going to say "screw it. I hope we lose them all" after playing our 6th game in 8 days that was also played in a foreign country without our best player.Coach34 said:
If we keep playing like this then hell yes I want Stans fired but I would hell of alot rather start winning. The SEC is weaker than usual and we still have alot to play for with 20 games left to go. Wanting State to lose just so we can fire the coach is just #$$!!%! stupid.
so you arent glad Mississippi skull-17'ed us in the 2008 Egg Bowl? That was the only way Crooms gets fired. I'm glad they scored 45- and was that day. Sometimes it takes something like that for people like you to finally see what others have been seeing for awhile.
I know you hold out hope, but its not happening. Sidney is not a big post defender, and Ravern is awful. Counting on Kodi to be the man controlling the paint is just scary. Defense and rebounding is going to be a killer...The East is better this year top to bottom, and UPig is better. Mississippi is about the same and could factor in. Too much against us in what is still a weak conference nationally.
He needs to be coaching for his job in 2012- no NCAA, the axe falls
I know you hold out hope, but its not happening. Sidney is not a big post defender, and Ravern is awful. Counting on Kodi to be the man controlling the paint is just scary. Defense and rebounding is going to be a killer...The East is better this year top to bottom, and UPig is better. Mississippi is about the same and could factor in. Too much against us in what is still a weak conference nationally.
He needs to be coaching for his job in 2012- no NCAA, the axe falls
I 100% agree that we should fire him if we don't make the NCAAs in 2012. Hell I would fire him this season if we don't win at least 20 games. There should be no excuses for going 16-14 or so at MSU.
I am just saying there is a big difference in wanting us to get killed at the end of a bad football season and wanting us to lose as many games as possible in basketball just so we can fire the coach. After losing to LA Tech in Crooms last year I don't think anyone was saying they hope we lose the rest of our games.
I am just saying there is a big difference in wanting us to get killed at the end of a bad football season and wanting us to lose as many games as possible in basketball just so we can fire the coach. After losing to LA Tech in Crooms last year I don't think anyone was saying they hope we lose the rest of our games.
dawgstudent said:
Dude, don't stop him now. He is working hard towards 30,000 posts by March to help fuel his jihad of Stansbury hatred. Your board will be crap till MSU basketball is over with, so get used to it. The fact that he is comparing Stan to Croom shows his complete lack of objectivity in the matter and he will argue you till doomsday to say he is right.
"Stansbury is not equal to Croom in any shape or form"
"The fact that he is comparing Stan to Croom shows his complete lack of objectivity in the matter and he will argue you till doomsday to say he is right."
When a Croom team took the field against a decent team- few people thought we had a chance to win.
Now when "The Recruiter" takes the floor against a BCS team OOC- do you honestly feel like we will win? Have you really thought that the last couple of years? And before you reply- think about answers you have given the last couple of years when we have talked about beefing up the schedule and what would happen if we did.
I'll hang up and listen
"The fact that he is comparing Stan to Croom shows his complete lack of objectivity in the matter and he will argue you till doomsday to say he is right."
When a Croom team took the field against a decent team- few people thought we had a chance to win.
Now when "The Recruiter" takes the floor against a BCS team OOC- do you honestly feel like we will win? Have you really thought that the last couple of years? And before you reply- think about answers you have given the last couple of years when we have talked about beefing up the schedule and what would happen if we did.
I'll hang up and listen
Me, too.
Stans has repeatedly and consistently shown what kind of team he's gonna put on the floor. He has shown us over and over again that we should expect nothing less than a disappointing ultimate end to a season. He is what he is. Expecting that to change anytime soon is wishful thinking. I hate to hope for losses. But I honestly couldn't care any less about our basketball program than I do right now. Sometimes it takes losing to get enough people's attention to what's going on so that positive change can come. I just don't see positive change coming from Stansbury.
I cant believe Bost's leadership is being touted as a selling point. This is a guy that would launch deep 3s with more than 30 seconds on the shot clock. This is a guy that for the last 2 seasons, has had a scowl on his face directed at the coaching staff and his teammates on the floor with him. This is a guy that is so frigging immature that he couldnt manage to get his draft removal letter in on time and then blatently lied about why in a couple of different ways. This is a guy that missed the first semester's games because he couldnt stay academically eligible during the time that he was working out for his cluster17 of a decision on staying or going.dawgstudent said:
Its just constantly amazing that this guy is who we are waiting for to lead the team. That speaks volumes to how terrible the rest of the team is at leading and to the staff's inability to control the floor leader or get someone else to fill in.
Coach34 said:
I had heard that Byrne had decided to fire Croom after we lost to Kentucky in 08. I will say that losing to Ole Miss like that made it a lot easier on Byrne to drop the axe from a PR standpoint. But if the person I was talking to was right, it wouldn't have mattered if Croom had beaten Ole Miss 45-0, he was gone.
1. When you go to our games do you cheer for the other team or just boo our players. Seriously what's the mentality going to a game wanting to lose.
2. You are out of your gd mind!! Picture Oxford, the grove, VH stadium. Now picture walking out of it after getting beat 45-0. Having to listen to all those snarky rebel fans talking **** as you leave the stadium. I love the direction our football program is going but not one damn bulldog fan should have to go through that **** ever again. Take that attitude to NAFOOM.
Just for that I hope you get stuck in an elevator with a 20 year old drunk Rebel frat boy named Tad armed with a flask of kentucky tavern and a video of the 08 Egg Bowl while forward rebel plays in a constant loop over the elevator speaker.
2. You are out of your gd mind!! Picture Oxford, the grove, VH stadium. Now picture walking out of it after getting beat 45-0. Having to listen to all those snarky rebel fans talking **** as you leave the stadium. I love the direction our football program is going but not one damn bulldog fan should have to go through that **** ever again. Take that attitude to NAFOOM.
Just for that I hope you get stuck in an elevator with a 20 year old drunk Rebel frat boy named Tad armed with a flask of kentucky tavern and a video of the 08 Egg Bowl while forward rebel plays in a constant loop over the elevator speaker.
that Stansbury has won a SEC Championship and has been to more postseasons than times Croom has ridden in golf carts.
Has Stansbury's success fallen in the past few years? Of course but to even compare the two is laughable.
Has Stansbury's success fallen in the past few years? Of course but to even compare the two is laughable.
I am saying the team is night and day with him on the floor. Everything is much more fluid. He makes a complete difference on this team and it's obvious Sidney is no where close to being ready.
This years team doesnt have the talent or the attitude to win games against BCS opponents and Bost returning is certainly not goint to do much for the attitude. Coach is absolutely right on this subject,.
And dont you think it would help to have a coach who doesnt allow his small children to sit on or right behind the bench during games?
And dont you think it would help to have a coach who doesnt allow his small children to sit on or right behind the bench during games?
This season, I have no hope we will win because we have a complete lack of defense, rebounding and leadership.
You are taking a 30+ point loss and painting a broad stroke across Stans entire career.
You are taking a 30+ point loss and painting a broad stroke across Stans entire career.