Is my view of the UK football program correct at the current crossroad?

optimus-blue

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These observation are made after seeing coaching speculation both nationally and locally .It is produced in response to those who say who would want the job or say insiders tell them no one wants job . In my opinion that's the UK athletics department telling their fans no one wants to be here lol. Look at it objectively 1.)we are in richest conference the SEC our coaches are well paid and their is money for taking if you win ( heck look at Stoops buy out and he is losing and looks lost) 2.) we have new facilities that are supposedly on par or better than any in country3.) we have enough young talented Wr and Rbs present on Offense to play entertaining and up tempo and give you a chance to win every game. 4.) We have a school 60 miles down the road that proves you can recruit enough talent to the state of Ky to win and be a contender in any conference(anybody that doesn't think UL would win SEC east is crazy )we are centrally located in eastern USA and been proven by both schools no reason you can't recruit 5.) we have a good core group of young DBs that can in a situation of wide open games make plays if the coach pushes right button.6) We have a 5 star lt tackle who is holding his own as a true freshman and can be cornerstone of a good oline moving forward , we have a bunch of big young guards with a highly rated leader type center being redshirted that should put o line on solid footing going forward . 7) Lb position is a work in progress but Jones , Daniels and Brown give me hope it is on a upward trajectory .
On the opposite side of the ledger the 1.) DL is a mess and will take a revamp and restart by this staff or another to just be competitive . 2.) QB position is a question ?a 4 star who just can't hit his stride a stop gap juco QB that we will lean on heavily rest of season but unsure if he is answer and a redshirt fresh that per this staff has shown promise but position is a question mark.3) a culture of negativity and poor management by university for past seventy years that will be biggest hurdle.
Still taking all things considered why isn't this a very desirable job for a confident coach who knows he can do it lol. I would ask J Rowland or D. Terry or whoever to point out any fallacy I have produced or shoot down my opinion that a Bobby Petrino or equally successful coach wouldn't be winning and competitive here now and in future.
 

docholiday51

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I think we are at a crossroad,if we have a 2 or 3 win season(which is probably the most likely outcome) then Stoops is in danger of being gone.Maybe Gran gets the job in an attempt to keep form starting from scratch.If we win 4 then Stoops will survive another year.

I know the buyout issue is a major factor but 2-10 or 3-9 may be enough to force the issue.UK seems to come to this crossroad about every 4 or 5 years,Stoops is not 100% to blame,let's be real,this is one of the worst football jobs in the country.If you go back to the Curry days we have been trying to find the right guy for a very long time,we have tried established coaches,top assistants and head coaches from other levels of college football. Some coaches that might or might not be successful aren't willing to come here and accept the career risk that comes with this job.

I know this paints a bleak picture of UK football but it is more nearly accurate than some pie in the sky belief that we are a coach away from contending for an SEC East title(even though the SEC East hasn't been world beaters for the past couple of years and isn't this year either)
 

Mr Schwump

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I think we are at a crossroad,if we have a 2 or 3 win season(which is probably the most likely outcome) then Stoops is in danger of being gone.Maybe Gran gets the job in an attempt to keep form starting from scratch.If we win 4 then Stoops will survive another year.

I know the buyout issue is a major factor but 2-10 or 3-9 may be enough to force the issue.UK seems to come to this crossroad about every 4 or 5 years,Stoops is not 100% to blame,let's be real,this is one of the worst football jobs in the country.If you go back to the Curry days we have been trying to find the right guy for a very long time,we have tried established coaches,top assistants and head coaches from other levels of college football. Some coaches that might or might not be successful aren't willing to come here and accept the career risk that comes with this job.

I know this paints a bleak picture of UK football but it is more nearly accurate than some pie in the sky belief that we are a coach away from contending for an SEC East title(even though the SEC East hasn't been world beaters for the past couple of years and isn't this year either)

There's a coach who'll take this challenge because of two things...ego and money. Yes, it's a tough job but some coach somewhere has the ego to think HE'S the answer and when there's $3M, $4M, $5M thrown around people will listen. Trick is to marry the two.
 

docholiday51

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There's a coach who'll take this challenge because of two things...ego and money. Yes, it's a tough job but some coach somewhere has the ego to think HE'S the answer and when there's $3M, $4M, $5M thrown around people will listen. Trick is to marry the two.
I actually agree with this take,the trick if finding the guy.It has been proven to be a most difficult task,such a coach does exist but the process of finding him has proven to be long and painful.
 

DACats86

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Barnhart absolutely wants people to think that no one will take the job because anything different will mean that he will, you know, actually have to do some work.
 
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theoledog

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Agree. It's way easier to suck than it is to be good.
And... we pay people, like Barnhart, big money, will give them a raise, to maintain the status quo.....
Forget about the fans being pissed.... Appreantly those that really make the decisions are getting what they want.
How else can one explain being #3 in the State?
 
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