Is Patrick Mahomes in the top 15 of NFL QBs all-time?

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Mahomes lifetime rating is 105.7. (6 years) He is #1.
Previous leader is Aaron Rodgers with 104.9. (18 years)

In playoffs Mahomes is 107.4. He is #1.
Previous leader is Bart Starr with 104.8 (16 years)

MVPs Mahomes 2. (Tied for 4th among QBs)
Manning 5 is #1

Well on his way to #1, barring injury.
 
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pamdlion

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Mahomes lifetime rating is 105.7. (6 years) He is #1.
Previous leader is Aaron Rodgers with 104.9. (18 years)

In playoffs Mahomes is 107.4. He is #1.
Previous leader is Bart Starr with 104.8 (16 years)

MVPs Mahomes 2. (Tied for 4th among QBs)
Manning 5 is #1

Well on his way to #1, barring injury.
Much easier when QBs can barely be touched. Ten years ago they got hit on just about every single play.
 
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razpsu

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No..not even close.
Brady
Montana
Elway
Marino
Unitas
Manning

And that is just off of the top of my head.
Bradshaw and staubach. To great big game qbs. 78-79still the greatest super bowl to be played by two great teams. 17-19. Hall of famers!
 
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razpsu

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Much easier when QBs can barely be touched. Ten years ago they got hit on just about every single play.
This is a great point. If you watch the super bowl 30 min clips from the past, I watched all of the steeler Super Bowls. You see the qbs getting crushed. I’m sitting their thinking, well today that is a flag and that is another etc.
 

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48-14 ring a bell?
How many Super Bowls did he win?
8-10 playoff record?

Mahomes already has a 9-3 playoff record.
18 playoff games on a team with no running game and no defense. He single handedly carried that team. Overall they shouldn’t even have been a playoff caliber team yet they made it consistently because of him. Does Mahomes make all the tackles as well? Winning a SB is not the sole responsibility of the QB.
 
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LionJim

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Don’t let personal feelings make you sound foolish.
If you had to pick a Super Bowl QB from between Marino and Mahomes, I’d pick Mahomes. I’ll concede that Marino is statistically superior to Mahomes, so maybe we’re talking about two different things.
 
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Ludd

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If you had to pick a Super Bowl QB from between Marino and Mahomes, I’d pick Mahomes. I’ll concede that Marino is statistically superior to Mahomes, so maybe we’re talking about two different things.
Depends on the team….I would take this year’s Chiefs over any Dolphins team Marino played on. Would you take a pitcher who got 20 wins with the Pirates or 20 wins with the Astros?
 

LionJim

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Depends on the team….I would take this year’s Chiefs over any Dolphins team Marino played on. Would you take a pitcher who got 20 wins with the Pirates or 20 wins with the Astros?
Fair enough. I’d take 1972 Steve Carlton over just about any other pitcher’s season.
 
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pamdlion

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Depends on the team….I would take this year’s Chiefs over any Dolphins team Marino played on. Would you take a pitcher who got 20 wins with the Pirates or 20 wins with the Astros?
Marino played real football. Mahomes is playing two hand touch.
 

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Marino played real football. Mahomes is playing two hand touch.
It’s funny, the Brady haters use this argument all the time to downplay Brady’s accomplishments, but apparently it doesn’t apply to Mahomes.
 

pamdlion

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Ignores the fact that athletes are superior now.
No doubt about that.

Still doesn’t negate the fact they can’t get hit. Twenty years ago they would have been going after Mahomes ankle on every play. He never would have made it to the Super Bowl.