Is Riley Benock a sleeper for next season?
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has not done one thing in three years to change my mind that he was/is a complete waste of a scholarship. There's one thing and one thing only that he brings to the table(his 3-pt shooting), but he's too damn scared to ever take a shot. One one end, we have Phil frickin Turner pulling up from the half court logo as if he makes 'em all the time while Riley Benock passes up wide open shots all around the arch. Frustrating to say the least.
Big scorer? No
More Minutes? Very possible.
He has to learn to not play scared if he ever plans on helping this team. I actually think he has enough talent to be beneficial. </p>
More Minutes? Very possible.
He has to learn to not play scared if he ever plans on helping this team. I actually think he has enough talent to be beneficial. </p>
A guy shoots 17 of 52 for 32.7%from three point range and you think he "has that going for him"? That percentage is good enough to rank himexactly SIXTH on last year's team among regulars. The truth is that you probably don't even know if he actually shot well or not, you just assumed he did because he's...well...white. Which, is why another member on this board that shall remain nameless refers to Benock as "The Myth". Simply stated, he defies the myth that all white guards can shoot. Which is funny because everytime he does jack one, the entire Hump sighs when the ball clangs off the rim as if they had expected it to fall.
Benock actually does a couple of things ok in that he's a decent position player on defense, passes the ball well (especially in terms of feeding the post) and seems to at times not bea liability but he lacks confidence and he doesn't shoot well....at all. FWIW, he's shoots 35% from the field.</p>
Benock actually does a couple of things ok in that he's a decent position player on defense, passes the ball well (especially in terms of feeding the post) and seems to at times not bea liability but he lacks confidence and he doesn't shoot well....at all. FWIW, he's shoots 35% from the field.</p>
and that is probably the only thing about him that I fully appreciated last season was the fact he tried much harder then everyone else to move the ball inside.Nugdawg said:
howd his inbounds pass against ky turn out besides losing us the sec championship game...riley brings nothing to the table especially under pressure
Benock was a 40% 3-pt shooter through his first two years and while Stansbury has been known to be wrong on occasion, Rick said that he was one of the best long range shooters that he had ever recruited out of high school. We all know the college game a different ballgame but regardless, me saying that his long ball was only thing he brings to the table doesn't mean that I think he's the next Steve Kerr. All I meant was that he pretty much sucks at everything else, but of course you proved me wrong by pointing out his remarkable entry passing skills.
Oh, and that was a nice assumption that you made about my assumption that he shot well because he was white, douchebag. Is this Costanza's new screen name?
Oh, and that was a nice assumption that you made about my assumption that he shot well because he was white, douchebag. Is this Costanza's new screen name?
by any means. From my perspective he nailed the only qualities about Benock that anyone should appreciate him for. Outside of that he is a scrub playing out there on offense and like you said he chokes more under pressure than Ole Miss does in a super regional.
I honestly think his defense is better than his 3point shooting. That's what I thought this past year at least. I think he's an okay defender and average 3 point shooter. He's not going to do anything spectacular, but he did actually make some nice 2 point jumpers in the SECT. He'll play alot next year so I hope he does step up. How much he can step up and contribute? I'm not expecting much.Seinfeld said:
What about his first 3 seasons would lead you to think he will step up his play and impact next season?msstatefan95 said:
Was it his inability to not even knock down open shots but even TAKE open shots?
No, i dont expect him to step up next season any more than a rotational player that is going to be a senior would normally step up their play. He will be a leader on the team in the sense that he is a senior and not dumb as rocks, but if he is the player that steps up next season for us, we are in serious trouble.
The inbounds pass against Kentucky didn't really surprise me
I still can't get the turnover against a top 10 ranked Tennessee team in '08 with about 20 seconds left, down 2 out of my head. I don't care that he was a Freshman that year, just a sign of things to come. That play shook him for the rest of the year
I still can't get the turnover against a top 10 ranked Tennessee team in '08 with about 20 seconds left, down 2 out of my head. I don't care that he was a Freshman that year, just a sign of things to come. That play shook him for the rest of the year
At the most he should get a few minutes playing defense for Ravern if surprisingly Ravern shows up at the same emaciated weight (or lighter) in year four of his remarkable tenurewith us.
PhilTurner would get more minutes on my team. He is an *** kicker. Stans doesn't like him because he can't control him.Unlike Jamont (the only option on that team to run the offense so Stans had to let him run wild) Stans has shown that he will sit Turner for doing dumb stuff, but then Turner goes back out there and does it some more and that drives Stans crazy I bet. Augustus was calling for more Turner early in the year and I agree. Barry and Ravern were pussies and played like it the majority of the time. Say what you want about Ravern and the development of his offense, it was there. But his D was terrible. Barry was the opposite, solid on D, but miserable on offense. Those two added together were the equivalent of having one whole player on the floor. Their ***** play carried over into Jarvis 210 lbs? who got bullied by big men 240 lbs +
Riley is like a less talented BarryorRavern.......essentially all of them are passive bitches. Riley wasworthless ever since that Tenn loss when hedidn't man up and take that last second shot.
Our team took on the demeanor of Barry Stewart going in for a layup and getting tomahawked, falling awkwardly and getting up holding his wrist. That had to happen 4-5 times over the past year. I bet the team was sitting around watching the selection show and they get to the last regional and it was clear that we had been passed up in favor of FLA and the team was sitting there with blank Randy expressions on their faces looking at the floor holding their wrists, a true Barry Stewart team moment.
Complaining points for next year's team:
1. Benock playing more than 5 min per game.
2. Turner playing less than 15 min per game.
3. Kodi not getting 30 min per game at the 5 until Sidney is cleared (we have to get those early wins and that is best done with our 5 most talented players on the court).
4. Counting on Tranny to back up Dee (if Dawgbreeze is in factcorrect....please be right)....and if he is wrong, counting on Tranny to give solid minutes period.
5. Not having the team ready to play zone whenReik or #30 goes in at center.
6. Not having plays/screens/etc....for Ravern's emaciated ***.
7. Failing to immediately figure out which of the new players Bryant, Steele or Shaunessy Smith is the most talented and failing to get them lots of minutes early to develop enough to help us in SEC play this season.(see complaint #1).
8. I have stopped complaining about the dumbassed non-timeouts or peculiar sub patterns. That is just howCoach Stans rolls and it is his strategy.
PhilTurner would get more minutes on my team. He is an *** kicker. Stans doesn't like him because he can't control him.Unlike Jamont (the only option on that team to run the offense so Stans had to let him run wild) Stans has shown that he will sit Turner for doing dumb stuff, but then Turner goes back out there and does it some more and that drives Stans crazy I bet. Augustus was calling for more Turner early in the year and I agree. Barry and Ravern were pussies and played like it the majority of the time. Say what you want about Ravern and the development of his offense, it was there. But his D was terrible. Barry was the opposite, solid on D, but miserable on offense. Those two added together were the equivalent of having one whole player on the floor. Their ***** play carried over into Jarvis 210 lbs? who got bullied by big men 240 lbs +
Riley is like a less talented BarryorRavern.......essentially all of them are passive bitches. Riley wasworthless ever since that Tenn loss when hedidn't man up and take that last second shot.
Our team took on the demeanor of Barry Stewart going in for a layup and getting tomahawked, falling awkwardly and getting up holding his wrist. That had to happen 4-5 times over the past year. I bet the team was sitting around watching the selection show and they get to the last regional and it was clear that we had been passed up in favor of FLA and the team was sitting there with blank Randy expressions on their faces looking at the floor holding their wrists, a true Barry Stewart team moment.
Complaining points for next year's team:
1. Benock playing more than 5 min per game.
2. Turner playing less than 15 min per game.
3. Kodi not getting 30 min per game at the 5 until Sidney is cleared (we have to get those early wins and that is best done with our 5 most talented players on the court).
4. Counting on Tranny to back up Dee (if Dawgbreeze is in factcorrect....please be right)....and if he is wrong, counting on Tranny to give solid minutes period.
5. Not having the team ready to play zone whenReik or #30 goes in at center.
6. Not having plays/screens/etc....for Ravern's emaciated ***.
7. Failing to immediately figure out which of the new players Bryant, Steele or Shaunessy Smith is the most talented and failing to get them lots of minutes early to develop enough to help us in SEC play this season.(see complaint #1).
8. I have stopped complaining about the dumbassed non-timeouts or peculiar sub patterns. That is just howCoach Stans rolls and it is his strategy.
in about a million ways. First, Stans gave Jamont a longer leash than Turner because Jamont is 10 times better than Phil. Jamont was one of the 3 or 4 most dominant players in the entire league. Phil brings energy and good rebounding for a small guy, but his 35 foot three's don't exactly help his case for being a 30 minute a game guy. Second, you can agree with Augustus all you want but you run the risk of letting the inmates run the asylum. Third, putting Barry and Ravern in the same category makes no sense. They are totally different players and I don't think anybody with a reasonable bone in their body would call Barry a *****. To steal a term from Dan Mullen, that guy gave relentless effort at the defensive end his entire career and was a damn good shooter his freshman and senior seasons. Fourth, blaming our shortcomings on Barry Stewart this year is beyond ridiculous. He probably fulfilled his potential more than about any other player on the team last season.
1. Jamont's pimp hand is strong. He would smack down Coach Stans and then where would we have been?
2. Good point but if by inmate you mean most talented 5 players on the floor at the same time.....then that is a risk I would be willing to take. We saw what the other strategy got us, well nothing.
3. I think it makes perfect sense if you go back and read my post. Both Barry and Ravern were for the most part one dimensional. Ravern scoring and Barry defending. They each get credit for being good at those things. There were however, glaring holes in each of their games. There are holes in Turner's game and there will be holes in Steele/Smith/Bryant's games, but we have to have to put the best players on the court that demonstrate energy and intensity.
Ravern is a *****, I stand by that statement. Barry deserves credit for playing hard and I blame coach Stansbury for putting him in position to have to "create" with limited time on the shot clock. Shame on coach Stans. Barry gave it his best effort. But when over and over you drive to the basket, GET CREAMED with the ball rejected into the 4th row, as you fade away weakly and get slammed to the court, then you get upslowly looking down at thefloor, I will let you decide what to call that.
2. Good point but if by inmate you mean most talented 5 players on the floor at the same time.....then that is a risk I would be willing to take. We saw what the other strategy got us, well nothing.
3. I think it makes perfect sense if you go back and read my post. Both Barry and Ravern were for the most part one dimensional. Ravern scoring and Barry defending. They each get credit for being good at those things. There were however, glaring holes in each of their games. There are holes in Turner's game and there will be holes in Steele/Smith/Bryant's games, but we have to have to put the best players on the court that demonstrate energy and intensity.
Ravern is a *****, I stand by that statement. Barry deserves credit for playing hard and I blame coach Stansbury for putting him in position to have to "create" with limited time on the shot clock. Shame on coach Stans. Barry gave it his best effort. But when over and over you drive to the basket, GET CREAMED with the ball rejected into the 4th row, as you fade away weakly and get slammed to the court, then you get upslowly looking down at thefloor, I will let you decide what to call that.