Isn't it just a chicken sandwich...a really good chicken sandwich?
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not really in support of their politics, but i'll eat their chicken sandwiches, waffle fries, and lemonade like a fiend.
that being said, cole slaw not on the menu anymore is a big disappointment.
that being said, cole slaw not on the menu anymore is a big disappointment.
Freedom of speech for their CEO includes freedom of speech for students to protest. Good for UNK's study body for taking a stand for equal rights and equal love. I'm sorry for those who would rather stand up for hate, but it's reassuring that they grow fewer and fewer.
Chick-fil-A is just another fast food chain. They sell fried greasewiches. They aren't irreplaceable.
Chick-fil-A is just another fast food chain. They sell fried greasewiches. They aren't irreplaceable.
Looks like I will be able to save my donation to UNK annually if they bow to this crap.
Here is their recipe:
Chick-fil-A Cole Slaw
(Makes 6-8 servings)
4 teaspoons vinegar
1/4 cup sugar
1/4 teaspoon dry mustard
1/4 teaspoon salt
1 cup mayonnaise
2 bags (10 oz bags) find shredded cabbage, chopped to 1/8 inch
1/4 cup finely chopped carrots
Whisk vinegar, sugar, mustard, and salt together until sugar is dissolved. Add mayonnaise and whisk to mix. Add cabbage and carrots. Mix to combine. Refrigerate 2 hours and serve.
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SO VERY tired of people equivocating disagreeing with someone as hating them. It is so intellectually lazy.
SO VERY tired of people equivocating disagreeing with someone as hating them. It is so intellectually lazy.
So what is it about the "politics" and practices of Chick-fil-A that are discriminatory? I am sure a company this size would have some past discretions so I would like to know exactly what they have done that is so bad. The CEO gives his opinion on a social issue and that makes the company all of a sudden evil? As the article points out, this is a small minority claiming their discriminatory practices all the while a larger, less vocal group is fed up with the nonsensical political grandstanding. It wasn't that many years ago when this would be a total nonissue and it wouldn't even be news. It seems to boil down to the fact that one group is allowed to discriminate against a single person's beliefs but no one better ever say anything negative about their beliefs. No double standard there is there? What an absolute joke.
Chick fil-A doesn't have any bad policies that I know of. The CEO brought this on his own company. The protest is a statement of people who want to express opposition to his discrimination-advocating public statements.
Make no mistake, wanting to deny to others something you are able to enjoy without prejudice is hateful. No 'equivocating' there. It is just as hateful as somebody telling you that they do not believe you should be able to marry the wife you love.
Nike dropped Manny Pacquaio this week for similar reasons. It's a better world where people take each other to task for promoting discrimination rather than allow it. I'm glad that so many people feel strongly. It is a change from even a decade ago. No, the days where the important issues of others went largely ignored were not the good old days, for anybody.
I understand this is not easy for some people to see, but we'll get there. It's not an impossible concept, accepting one another as fellow human beings in every way and capable of the same love. I'm really sorry if in this day and age that expression still causes a thread to be locked.
Make no mistake, wanting to deny to others something you are able to enjoy without prejudice is hateful. No 'equivocating' there. It is just as hateful as somebody telling you that they do not believe you should be able to marry the wife you love.
Nike dropped Manny Pacquaio this week for similar reasons. It's a better world where people take each other to task for promoting discrimination rather than allow it. I'm glad that so many people feel strongly. It is a change from even a decade ago. No, the days where the important issues of others went largely ignored were not the good old days, for anybody.
I understand this is not easy for some people to see, but we'll get there. It's not an impossible concept, accepting one another as fellow human beings in every way and capable of the same love. I'm really sorry if in this day and age that expression still causes a thread to be locked.
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Used to be that nobody cared about what people selling food believed in and people bought it because it was good.
I am tired, so tired of the people who push the PC agenda.
I hope they realize how wrong they are before they destroy The United States of America.
I am tired, so tired of the people who push the PC agenda.
I hope they realize how wrong they are before they destroy The United States of America.
just wish i didnt have to make it myself when ordering their fine fast food.
Sieg, because I don't believe what you believe that make me discriminatory? I happen to agree with the position stated by Chick's CEO and yet I wouldn't think about preventing you from doing anything you want to do. I own a business and employ almost 100 people so I'm apparently not allowed to have my own opinions? Which of us is truly discriminatory?
You're equivocating other things in this post that shouldn't be equivocated, either. But, frankly, I don't have the desire to waste my time explaining what that is to you. I've long ago learned that getting into online discussions with someone who considers others hateful because they disagree with them on this topic is an exercise in futility. The mere fact that you think those who disagree with you on this topic are hateful indicates a closed mind unwilling to listen to the reasons for the opposite side. It's a lot easier to label and dismiss, I guess.
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So you are the moral compass? I will be there tomorrow scarfing down a couple. When they ask my name for the ticket, I'll tell them I am "siegsker."
Lincoln, please do that if it will truly make you feel better.
Hateful is a strong word, but what else to call prejudice? It's a position that marginalizes people for their sexuality. We as a country are all learning to move from a time where homophobia is accepted norm to a time where it is rejected. That isn't close-mindedness.
I do not want to attack people for their views, as that is a poor way of opening hearts and changing minds. However, neither do I want to equivocate in describing those views for what they are. Nor downplay the harm the acceptance of those views has historically caused.
Here is what the Chick-Fil-A CEO said that caused the controversy:
I think we are inviting God's judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say, "We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage." I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about
To that I would quote Pope Francis. Who are we to judge?
Hateful is a strong word, but what else to call prejudice? It's a position that marginalizes people for their sexuality. We as a country are all learning to move from a time where homophobia is accepted norm to a time where it is rejected. That isn't close-mindedness.
I do not want to attack people for their views, as that is a poor way of opening hearts and changing minds. However, neither do I want to equivocate in describing those views for what they are. Nor downplay the harm the acceptance of those views has historically caused.
Here is what the Chick-Fil-A CEO said that caused the controversy:
I think we are inviting God's judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say, "We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage." I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about
To that I would quote Pope Francis. Who are we to judge?
Who are we to judge? I don't know, you just made the blanket statement that everyone who doesn't agree with gay marriage is hateful. Contradict yourself much? And you just quoted a man whose religion believes that homosexuality is sin. Maybe you don't really know what you are doing here.
Um, that's not hate by any definition I know of. Lots of people think I shouldn't have had the right to marry my wife, but it was because he she is far better looking that I am. Doesn't mean they hate me. (Relax, I'm not equating the two, just being funny.)
He was saying what he believes. Hang him!!
The Pope is not the voice of Christianity.
Agreed, it seems those waving the flag(or bumper sticker) of tolerance, seem to exhibit the least. Only tolerant if you cave to them.
Nobody cared (or even knew) because restaurant owners didn't use their position to be a bully pulpit to spread their political views. Chickfilet chose to do this which is their right. It is also customers' and in this case srudents' choice to say they don't want that on their campus.
Let's flip this around and say a company didn't believe blacks and whites should marry. Would you want that business profiting from your school?
I almost took the bait.
But your flip around analogy failed to piss me all the way off.
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SOME very vocal students don't want it. It's mob rule by a minority.
There are plenty of places / companies that I do not support for one reason or another. But I have never thought to myself " you know what, that company should be banned from here".
What a small minded way to operate.
While Chick-fil-a will survive without this location, it goes to show how backwards some places have become:
"We encourage diversity so long as you agree with us"
What a small minded way to operate.
While Chick-fil-a will survive without this location, it goes to show how backwards some places have become:
"We encourage diversity so long as you agree with us"
No, it isn't. Don't you know that we should just kneel at the altar of big business and eat whatever they shovel at us. It's time these youngins learn their place in this "democratic" society.
This is simple. The CEO uses his status and money which he derives from his exalted position at Chick Fila to express his opinion and give dollars to organizations that spend time lobbying for his views. The students have the right to do the same which includes lobbying the school against Chick Fila.
If the school decides with its students then it's no more bowing to pressure than what our politicians do every day while taking donations from big business and lobbying groups. It's about time that people played the game by the rules set by those in power. It's not politically correct, it's just politics and the side that dislikes those that are different from their lily white straight version of America are losing.
The STUDENTS? How about SOME Students. A vocal minority protesting does not equal ALL students or even a majority of the student body.
If you dont like the company, dont shop there. Free enterpirse will dictate their survival. To ban them because snowflakes are offended is ridiculous. I have no opinion on the social topic. That being said, the PC nature of our higher education system is ridiculous.
When I am asked for a donation this year, I will drop a chik fil a gift card in the mail. Not out of support for the company, but out of anger that the PC culture was won again
When I am asked for a donation this year, I will drop a chik fil a gift card in the mail. Not out of support for the company, but out of anger that the PC culture was won again
If you don't like their policies, go eat somewhere else.
exactly, no one is forcing them to eat there.
chick fil a should also realize they cant pray the gay away, even if theyre trying to pay it away...
chick fil a should also realize they cant pray the gay away, even if theyre trying to pay it away...
Chik-Fil-A should allow their roosters to lay eggs.
"Lily white straight version," that made me smile. Thankful the students are keeping it real.
Again, this vocal minority is equal to the minority of those with wealth and power who use that wealth and power to manipulate government for their own benefit. The most cash or loudest voices often win so I don't see an issue with students(minority or majority) using the same system against the very companies that abuse the system with their wealth and power. It's not like the rest of the student body or other residents don't have other options to eat unhealthy fast food.
Diverse thought is the enemy of liberals. Arrogantly enforcing uniform thought is the best way to restrict the free expression of ideas. Something universities say they support. They don't.
can't believe this thread isn't locked yet
let's take it up a notch
what if a long time assistant on the staff of your favorite college football team expressed similar views? and used his position on the football staff "to be a bully pulpit to spread their political views"- would you want that program and university to profit? Should the student body and fan base continue to fill the stadium even to the point of holding the ongoing record for consecutive sellouts? Should the university students stage a protest demanding that the university and hall of fame head coach who employed this assistant forfeit all victories, conference and national titles?
So religious conviction = bigotry? I'm just curious, I'm pretty sure of void of both.
Free people can make whatever choices they want about food...but I just generally make choices concerning how good something tastes. I don't care if the cake comes from local bakery that is owned by a straight Peruvian woman. I don't care if my bratwurst was made by two gay guys. I don't care if my favorite burger bar is owned by a Muslim. Does it taste good?
My only criteria tends to be that I don't support businesses that flaunt their Christianity for business purposes. For example, if you are a really good Italian joint but in all of your advertising and on your door you put a great big ICTHUS ("Christian fish symbol") in order to draw customers, I'm probably going to eat next door. I tend to be harder on "my people" than others.
My only criteria tends to be that I don't support businesses that flaunt their Christianity for business purposes. For example, if you are a really good Italian joint but in all of your advertising and on your door you put a great big ICTHUS ("Christian fish symbol") in order to draw customers, I'm probably going to eat next door. I tend to be harder on "my people" than others.
In all seriousness, students protesting outside memorial stadium on a football Saturday would have been fascinating.
Did you even read the article? You talk about "kneeling at the alter of big business" and the school siding with the students as if Chick-Fil-A had announced they were bringing a restaurant to campus and the students rose up against it. Read the article.
The student government gave the students options to vote on, and a "majority" (taken directly from the article) voted for CFA. Then a "very small minority" (also taken directly from the article) decided to get upset, and the student government reversed course. Also, if you READ the article (strange concept, I know) it sounds like enough students complained about the reversal that they are going to hold a forum on the subject.
This is nothing more than a small group ruining things for the majority because they can't handle anything that opposes their viewpoint. If they don't like it, they don't have to eat there.