It certainly appears that Biden

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is going to get into the race. I think Obama is really pissed at the Clinton's and yesterdays' semi endorsement of Biden by the Administration will certainly embolden Biden to get into the race. Biden is also trying to lock in the Warren wing of the party and maybe even discussed a potential VP slot with her.

I think this is a testament to how far left the Dem party has moved. Sanders has all the emotion behind him and as we all know, he is a socialist. Warren is a Democratic socialist and would possibly win the nomination if she ran. Hillary is running to the left very fast. In the 90's, Bill Clinton ran as a very moderate Democrat that said the era of big government was over. He signed welfare reform, criminal justice reform and worked with Republicans to balance the budget. All of these positions are hated by many Dems today.

The other thing that strikes me is how old the Dems are. Two in their 70's and Hillary would be 69 if elected. And what baggage. Sanders is a socialist. Hillary isn't trusted and is both a liar and a felon. Biden is a plagiarist and really, really stupid. My guess is that if elected, he would easily be our lowest IQ president.
 

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I think the Warren meeting was to mend some fences with her. She has taken a very hard stance on a lot of the big bank vs consumer issues, and Biden has historically favored the credit card companies given their large presence in his home state. Right now I think Biden sees the writing on the wall regarding Clinton. She's made herself very vulnerable, and he's seeing how much support he could gather if he chose to enter the race. Biden has a long track record in the Senate, and he knows how to work with Congress. I think that's his biggest asset in a run for president, second is his close proximity to the average person - not an ivy leaguer, blue collar roots. Age and his knack for sticking his foot in his mouth are his biggest negatives.

Without taking a stand on whether a Biden run would be good or bad, he's the only person I can see with a real shot to beat Hillary in the primary and still have a fighting chance to win the presidency. Sanders is Howard Dean all over again - popular early on, but unable to get voters when it counts. Chafee, O'Malley, and Webb aren't really on the radar yet. Maybe after the October debate that will change, but I doubt it.
 

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I think the Warren meeting was to mend some fences with her. She has taken a very hard stance on a lot of the big bank vs consumer issues, and Biden has historically favored the credit card companies given their large presence in his home state. Right now I think Biden sees the writing on the wall regarding Clinton. She's made herself very vulnerable, and he's seeing how much support he could gather if he chose to enter the race. Biden has a long track record in the Senate, and he knows how to work with Congress. I think that's his biggest asset in a run for president, second is his close proximity to the average person - not an ivy leaguer, blue collar roots. Age and his knack for sticking his foot in his mouth are his biggest negatives.

Without taking a stand on whether a Biden run would be good or bad, he's the only person I can see with a real shot to beat Hillary in the primary and still have a fighting chance to win the presidency. Sanders is Howard Dean all over again - popular early on, but unable to get voters when it counts. Chafee, O'Malley, and Webb aren't really on the radar yet. Maybe after the October debate that will change, but I doubt it.
It's almost like the GOP race in 2012. Basically, they are looking for anyone but Hillary to emerge as the GOP was with Mitt.