It feels like we’re falling into the hands of our enemies...

[ETWNAPPEL_]

Today is day 150 of "15 days to flatten the curve."

As of today:

Only 3% of ER visits for COVID symptoms.
Only 1.9% of active cases are hospitalized.
Only .014% of Americans are hospitalized with Covid.
Only 0.7% of Americans are currently a positive case.
The median age of death is 78, which is the average life expectancy in the U.S.
We have conducted 41 million more tests than the next closest free country.

How much better do these numbers have to be for real life to return? When is the curve finally flattened?

 

[FtWorthCat]

We have a President who is under the control of Russian influence, lies about everything, shakes down our allies for political gain. His first campaign manager, now in prison for tax evasion, made millions as a pro-Russian lobbyist. His political party is unwilling to hold him accountable for anything, because they value power over country. Extremists are being elected as representatives by both parties. A significant portion of the country (including the President) believes in witch doctors over actual scientists. So you are correct, we have fallen under the influence of our enemies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ort-robert-mueller-russia-trump-2016-campaign

 

[hmt5000]

Russia has also been doing this for years.

Yes but never at that level. It's like volume on a radio. Russia was always at a 1 so you didn't notice. China is at a 5 because they don't care. If they feel like it they'll go to 10 and not blink.

 

[hmt5000]

We will never be the old America as long as we act selfish and hate each other.

If we had to do recycling drives, a la WW2, we would yell at each other for their wasteful lifestyles, said the Germans weren’t that bad, and blamed Mexicans for taking our metal away.

America is “We the people”. We the people can’t even figure out how to contain a fairly controllable pandemic.

Russians pay bounties in our troops. We draw red lines In Syria and then don’t enforce them.

Tell me what Eisenhower, Kennedy or Reagan would have done if that happened in their watch.

Our elected officials are bad...both sides....but we chose them. That is on us.

We may disagree on abortion, taxes, masks, whatever, but let’s be Americans first.

Stop watching divisive news, get PAC money out of politicians pockets, pass term limits, restore checks and balances (no more exec orders-either side) and DEMAND INTEGRITY and RESULTS from our elected officials. Sensible legislation, governed toward the middle.

America’s success was 100% American. Our failures are 100% party over America.

My son just joined the Army. Based on what I have seen recently, America doesn’t deserve him. Storming state capitals with machine guns? Burning our cities to the ground?

Let’s Stop the bickering. Let’s earn the sacrifice that Our military are willing to make for their COUNTRY and CONSTITUTION .

The bounty thing was never verified and several top military officials doubt it was a thing. US special forces killed over 100 Russians in Syria. Syria has been out of the news for over a year. Not sure that's a negative. I agree with most of the rest though.

 

[hmt5000]

Well.....that would be a big ol' FALSE.

Portland DA will stop charging people for rioting. Even if police are injured she won't prosecute. Chicago DA has failed to prosecute 25000 felonies in the last 12 month's.

There are several other cities with woke DAs that seem to welcome the crime as justified.

 

[hmt5000]

We have a President who is under the control of Russian influence, lies about everything, shakes down our allies for political gain. His first campaign manager, now in prison for tax evasion, made millions as a pro-Russian lobbyist. His political party is unwilling to hold him accountable for anything, because they value power over country. Extremists are being elected as representatives by both parties. A significant portion of the country (including the President) believes in witch doctors over actual scientists. So you are correct, we have fallen under the influence of our enemies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ort-robert-mueller-russia-trump-2016-campaign

Russiagate was a hoax dude. First guilty plea by the FBI just happened yesterday.

 

[FtWorthCat]

Russiagate was a hoax dude. First guilty plea by the FBI just happened yesterday.

The Justice Department found that there were issues with the warrant, but that surveillance was justified. At any rate, this had no impact on the election because the public was not aware of this investigation prior to the election. The public was aware that the FBI reopened the investigation into Clinton's emails two weeks prior to the election only to ultimately clear her once again. This did affect the polling numbers in the days before the election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...579994-de26-11ea-809e-b8be57ba616e_story.html

 

[hmt5000]

The Justice Department found that there were issues with the warrant, but that surveillance was justified. At any rate, this had no impact on the election because the public was not aware of this investigation prior to the election. The public was aware that the FBI reopened the investigation into Clinton's emails two weeks prior to the election only to ultimately clear her once again. This did affect the polling numbers in the days before the election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...579994-de26-11ea-809e-b8be57ba616e_story.html

Dude. Even lefty journalist like Matt Taibi are coming around. They knew steele was lying, they knew Paige worked with CIA... The reason they kept going was because they had to justify the spying they were already doing. Nobody with a brain cell believes russiagate at this point. They were going to use the Russia stuff in the campaign but it didn't poll well. When they got caught spying they had Steele put his name on it and sent it to the CIA.

This isn't one guy lied on a fisa. This is Worse than Watergate. Way worse.

 

[chroix]

Dude. Even lefty journalist like Matt Taibi are coming around. They knew steele was lying, they knew Paige worked with CIA... The reason they kept going was because they had to justify the spying they were already doing. Nobody with a brain cell believes russiagate at this point. They were going to use the Russia stuff in the campaign but it didn't poll well. When they got caught spying they had Steele put his name on it and sent it to the CIA.

This isn't one guy lied on a fisa. This is Worse than Watergate. Way worse.

Good stuff. I’m very skeptical of your post but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. Show us the evidence. I’ve been hearing for three and a half years that it’s all fake and the evidence will be out soon yet all we’ve got is what we’ve known all along. Three separate investigations of the investigation and still waiting. When you look at underlying evidence it’s even worse... but please do show us the proof that you are correct.

 

[hmt5000]

From May. 3 people who are not and didn't vote for Trump.


https://www.nationalreview.com/news...sador-appear-legit-according-to-strzok-notes/

Strzok writes that “P,” presumably President Obama, asked, “Is there anything I shouldn’t be telling transition team?”

Strzok records that “D,” or Director Comey, responded “Kislyak calls but appear legit.”

https://justthenews.com/accountabil...nscripts-fbi-intel-officials-had-little-proof

But perhaps the biggest piece of previously unreported news came from Michael Sussmann, a lawyer for the Perkins Coie law firm that represented the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's campaign in 2016. It was that law firm that contracted with Fusion GPS to hire Steele to develop the anti-Trump dossier that was shared with the FBI.

Sussmann acknowledged under questioning by Republican staff that in February 2017 he shared dirt he had gotten on the Trump organization's possible ties to Russia with the CIA. The agency's name was redacted from the transcript but confirmed to Just the News by multiple U.S. officials.

What was your contact [redacted] about?" a lawyer asked Sussmann.

"So the contact was about reporting to them information that was reported to me about possible contacts, covert or at least nonpublic, between Russian entities and various entities in the United States associated with the — or potentially associated with the Trump Organization," Sussmann answered.

 

[hmt5000]

His awards include the Defense Superior Service Medal (with 3 Oak Leaf Clusters), Legion of Merit (with Oak Leaf Cluster), Bronze Star Medal (with 3 Oak Leaf Clusters), Meritorious Service Medal (with Silver Oak Leaf Cluster), Joint Service Commendation Medal, Army Commendation Medal (with 4 Oak Leaf Clusters), the NATO Service Medal, and several service and campaign ribbons. Lieutenant General Flynn also has earned the Ranger Tab and Master Parachutist Badge, and the Joint Staff Identification Badge

Also remember that the guy they are saying is a traitor... 33 year veteran with several combat deployments. That guy sold out his country. lol

 

[FtWorthCat]

I am aware of the mistakes made by the press, but it doesn't change the fact that he had a Russian lobbyist as campaign manager, his son met with Russians for the purpose of obtaining dirt on the Clinton's and that Trump openly solicited Russian interference in campaign speeches. I don't want a President who thinks he is a comedian, even if he was just trying to be funny. I will decide as a voter if I'm comfortable with the Russian contacts within the Trump campaign, something Taibbi (who has his own questionable contacts to Russia) doesn't dispute. Flynn wasn't charged with treason, he was charged with lying to the FBI about his contact with Russia, and he admitted it.

 

[hmt5000]

I am aware of the mistakes made by the press, but it doesn't change the fact that he had a Russian lobbyist as campaign manager, his son met with Russians for the purpose of obtaining dirt on the Clinton's and that Trump openly solicited Russian interference in campaign speeches. I don't want a President who thinks he is a comedian, even if he was just trying to be funny. I will decide as a voter if I'm comfortable with the Russian contacts within the Trump campaign, something Taibbi doesn't dispute.

Russian lobbyist? Who did Manafort work with while he was doing that lobbying work? Tony Podesta... brother of Hillary's campaign chair. But Manafort is a "Russian lobbyist".

"met with Russians? The woman met with Fusion GPS before and after that meeting. If that doesn't scream set up... Dude wanted dirt on an opposition campaign... There's a novel idea. I guess he should of hired a law firm to hire an opposition research firm.

Solicited Russian interference? lol. He knew those Hillary emails were gone. He was making a joke. Anyone who watched the whole context of that knew it was joke. People laughed when he said it because it was funny. Maybe Hillary shouldn't have been doing State Dept business on a Yahoo acct.

I honestly hope you are never held to this standard in the justice system. Political, fine, but this never should of become legal and the only reason it did is because they got caught spying on the campaign (have you heard of Adm Mike Rogers?). You want to vote for someone else, that's your right. But we can't have people using our intel agencies as their own private google search.

 

[FtWorthCat]

Manafort worked for Viktor Yanukovych, pro-Russian President of Ukraine, who was subsequently overthrown and is currently in exile in Russia.

 

[hmt5000]

Manafort worked for Viktor Yanukovych, pro-Russian President of Ukraine, who was subsequently overthrown and is currently in exile in Russia.

Odd that Tony Podesta filed with FARA just a week before that hit the news. I mean, he was only doing international lobbying work for 20 years. Also kinda odd that additional FARA registrations occured the following week. Almost like they charged him with something that everyone in DC does and didn't see as illegal.

I would actually like to charge a whole bunch more people with FARA violations. Sure do seem to be a lot of people peddling for China right now.

 

[KopiKat]

The Justice Department found that there were issues with the warrant, but that surveillance was justified. At any rate, this had no impact on the election because the public was not aware of this investigation prior to the election. The public was aware that the FBI reopened the investigation into Clinton's emails two weeks prior to the election only to ultimately clear her once again. This did affect the polling numbers in the days before the election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...579994-de26-11ea-809e-b8be57ba616e_story.html

It may have affected polling numbers, which were proven to have been inaccurate all along (Vegas bettors were right all along), but it was most certainly not the reason why that awful wench lost Florida, Pennsylvania and Ohio. Talk about polls more, please.

 

[hmt5000]

I wondered if Hunter Biden registered with FARA? I mean, he was lobbying the State Dept on behalf of a co owned by Ukrainian oligarchs... one of which stole over $1billion in US aid to Ukraine. Seems like he should be registered I think.

 

[Kaizer Sosay]

Today is day 150 of "15 days to flatten the curve."

As of today:

Only 3% of ER visits for COVID symptoms.
Only 1.9% of active cases are hospitalized.
Only .014% of Americans are hospitalized with Covid.
Only 0.7% of Americans are currently a positive case.
The median age of death is 78, which is the average life expectancy in the U.S.
We have conducted 41 million more tests than the next closest free country.

How much better do these numbers have to be for real life to return? When is the curve finally flattened?

Doesn’t matter how much better the numbers get. The only number that matters is November 3rd...or 6th...or 14th...or whatever day the official election results will actually be announced. Only then will “real life” return.

 

[hmt5000]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/us/politics/nsa-surveillance-trump.html

WASHINGTON — Soon after the Trump administration took office this year, the National Security Agency secretly briefed its new overseers at the White House that they had inherited a problem with the agency’s warrantless surveillance program.

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court was delaying its annual reauthorization because the N.S.A. had discovered widespread violations of a rule for how analysts could handle Americans’ emails collected under the program. Now, the agency director, Adm. Michael S. Rogers, was proposing to solve the problem by significantly reducing an important type of surveillance undertaken through the program.

The problems concerned the N.S.A. program’s “upstream” system, which collects emails and other internet messages entering or leaving the United States from the switches of network operators like AT&T. One thing that system did was collect messages that merely included identifying terms — like email addresses — for foreigners whom the agency is spying on, but are neither to nor from those targets. The agency called that “about” surveillance, because it gathered messages about its target.

For technical reasons, upstream collection is more likely to also capture some purely domestic emails than the program’s “downstream,” or “Prism,” system, which collects the contents of targeted foreigners’ accounts from providers like Gmail. As a result, the court had imposed a rule that analysts could not search for Americans’ information in the upstream repository.



But the study showed that when analysts searched for Americans’ information, they often failed to take steps to prevent the upstream repository from being queried, too — including 85 percent of a particular type of such searches. Judge Collyer called that “a very serious Fourth Amendment issue” and criticized the N.S.A. for institutional “lack of candor” because it had not disclosed the problem earlier.


Adm Mike Rogers went to Trump tower right after the election and gave him a briefing. That day Trump moved his entire campaign and transition out of Trump tower and into one of Trumps golf courses in NJ.

"about query searches" aren't the same as FISA. This was a back door spying excercise. It allowed people to spy on Americans that weren't even talking to foreigners. Rogers notified congress of the abuse shortly before the election. After the election he went to Trump tower without notifying the Obama administration. Shortly after that several Obama officials wanted Rogers removed from his post.

https://www.usnews.com/news/article...ommended-firing-im-accountable-for-my-actions
Citing unnamed U.S. officials, the Post reported that Defense Secretary Ash Carter and outgoing Director of National Intelligence James Clapper recommended last month that Obama remove Rogers, with Carter having concerns about Rogers' performance and Clapper's case driven largely by his and Carter's recommendation that leadership of Cyber Command and the NSA be split. Clapper also reportedly prefers that the NSA be led by a civilian.

The Atlantic's Steve Clemons, who was moderating a panel featuring Rogers at the Halifax International Security Forum, hinted at Rogers' meeting with Trump earlier in the forum by jokingly asking the admiral, "How was 'Hamilton'?"

"Next question," Rogers said quickly.

During the discussion, Rogers advocated for the breakup of the two agencies he leads, though that prospect has concerned some cybersecurity professionals over fears that Cyber Command, a military headquarters, and the NSA, which focuses on surveillance and cryptology, would work at cross-purposes.

Others see a benefit from the largely digitally focused agencies in part competing against one another, particularly amid accusations highlighted in the Post report that Cyber Command has been slow to counter the digital activities of the Islamic State group.

 

[hmt5000]

Ron Wyden D Ore. questioning Brennan over illegal CIA accessing of Senate emails and documents.

 

[FtWorthCat]

8/18/20-Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee finds Manafort colluded with Russians.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/senate...ia-investigation-11597758014?mod=hp_lead_pos6

 

[hmt5000]

8/18/20-Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee finds Manafort colluded with Russians.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/senate...ia-investigation-11597758014?mod=hp_lead_pos6

Just so we are both on the same page.... If a politician ask for or accepts help from a foreign government they are horrible people.... correct?

 

[hmt5000]

Go ahead and say that Bannon got arrested. This is the US veteran that was apart of that group that was getting paid off the books. Go ahead and say a dude that lost 3/4 of his limbs serving this country isn't as a good of an American as an Ivy league lawyer or a DC bureaucrat.