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RocketCityDawg

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Goals at the highest level of futbol are rare, because it's mostly a defensive game.

I've only coached and reffed at the rec-league level, but defense is key to winning.

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patdog

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RocketCityDawg said:
I've only coached and reffed at the rec-league level, but defense is key to winning.
Actually, goals in soccer aren'tmuch rarer than touchdowns in NFL football. The average NFL game has 5 touchdowns in 3hr-15min of play.The averagesoccer game at the highest levels has 3 goals in 1hr-45min of play.
 

seshomoru

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patdog said:
RocketCityDawg said:
I've only coached and reffed at the rec-league level, but defense is key to winning.
Actually, goals in soccer aren'tmuch rarer than touchdowns in NFL football. The average NFL game has 5 touchdowns in <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">3hr-15min of play</span> <span style="font-weight: bold;">11-13 minutes</span>.The averagesoccer game at the highest levels has 3 goals in 1hr-45min of play.
Fixed. That's how often the ball is actually in play, from snap to whistle. So, it's really not that to score in football... unless Croom is your coach.
 

RocketCityDawg

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By the law; two 45-minute halves in the game that allows and encourages noisemakers.

Not 105 minutes (one hr and 45 minutes)
 

patdog

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the fact is it takes 3 hours and 15 minutes to watch a football game. Having 3 hours of dead time and only 15 minutes of action is hardly an advantage.
 

patdog

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I'm counting the total time from the start of the game to the end of the game. Because that's how long it actually takes to watch any sporting event.
 

seshomoru

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Because that makes as much sense as counting the time when the ball is not in play, especially half time.
 

RebelBruiser

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Don't even try to compare the excitement of soccer to the excitement of football.

Or even the scoring for that matter. I know there are a lot of soccer fans on this board, but it doesn't compare to football in terms of watchability for a number of reasons, only one of which is scoring.
 

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So "rare scoring chances" are a subjective term. We've stared squarely into the mouth of the abyss on this one.
 

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Seshomoru said:
Fixed. That's how often the ball is actually in play, from snap to whistle. So, it's really not that to score in football... unless Croom is your coach.
He was afraid of being called "offsides".
 

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Make it more like basketball and make there more risk/reward for fastbreak type play. I still think that would work and create a whole lot more scoring opportunities, and no it wouldn't just be kick it deep to the other end and chase it, anymore than basketball is a game of snowbirding.
 

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RebelBruiser said:
Make it more like basketball and make there more risk/reward for fastbreak type play. I still think that would work and create a whole lot more scoring opportunities, and no it wouldn't just be kick it deep to the other end and chase it, anymore than basketball is a game of snowbirding.
If a player goes down with some horrible injury, real or imagined, it must be assumed the onlyway out the poor player'ssuffering is the sweet release of death. Therefore, put a sniper on the roof of the stadium (or nearby building) to put theguy out of his misery.

There are going to be plenty of US Army and Marine snipers out of work following the drawdown in Iraq, as well as former Soviet Spetznaz snipers milling around Russia lookingfor a big payday. They should be able to make a pretty easy headshot at500 meters, using a .50 cal. sniper rifle.
 

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Mutt the Hoople said:
RebelBruiser said:
Make it more like basketball and make there more risk/reward for fastbreak type play. I still think that would work and create a whole lot more scoring opportunities, and no it wouldn't just be kick it deep to the other end and chase it, anymore than basketball is a game of snowbirding.
If a player goes down with some horrible injury, real or imagined, it must be assumed the onlyway out the poor player'ssuffering is the sweet release of death. Therefore, put a sniper on the roof of the stadium (or nearby building) to put theguy out of his misery.

There are going to be plenty of US Army and Marine snipers out of work following the drawdown in Iraq, as well as former Soviet Spetznaz snipers milling around Russia lookingfor a big payday. They should be able to make a pretty easy headshot at500 meters, using a .50 cal. sniper rifle.

I'd watch. Good plan. I'd even watch MLS for that.

Of all the things I don't like about soccer, including the offsides rule, the flopping business is the worst. I've watched guys have to be hauled off on a stretcher for things that an NFL player would pop up and keep playing through. I know the flopping has some strategic value to it, but all it does is make soccer players look like huge vaginas in comparison to other athletes. Kick a football player in the shin. Hit a hockey player or a lacrosse player in the shin with a stick. Watch to see if those guys need a stretcher, or if they even hesitate to get up...if it actually knocks them off their feet in the first place. Hell, in basketball there is more contact on EVERY rebound than what causes these guys to writhe in pain on the ground. I can't stand to watch that crap from soccer players.

In most sports, you're taught to be tough, play through pain, be a man, etc. In soccer, it's like the exact opposite is enforced, which is why it'll always get a bad rap in the US. We don't like sissies.
 

patdog

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you see just as many players lay on the field after a play, get medical attention, walk off and then come right back in the game in football as you do in soccer.
 

RebelBruiser

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patdog said:
you see just as many players lay on the field after a play, get medical attention, walk off and then come right back in the game in football as you do in soccer.

Come on. You know it's part of the culture of soccer to ham it up when you get hit. Yes, guys get hurt, have to be helped off, and then come back, but they aren't doing it to draw flags. They're doing it because they are in pain, even if it's temporary.

In soccer, they do it to try to make it look worse to hopefully draw a yellow card. It gives that impression, and the stretcher business is a joke. I saw a guy get kicked in the face in a World Cup game. I'm sure it hurt, but there was no blood. He rolled around for a while and had to be carried off on a stretcher. That kind of crap is the reason Americans don't like the game. The nature of the play is to take away any physical play. Technically you can't be physical by rules in basketball, but over the years fans have essentially pushed the refs into letting a lot more go, and now basketball is a full contact sport.

You can't defend the flopping. You just can't. It's a bogus part of the game, and it makes soccer players look like sissies, whether it's true or not.
 

patdog

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There are more concussions in soccer than there are in football. And more serious knee injuries too. Not to mention that I've seen a LOT more blood in soccer games than I ever have in football games.