It's baffling how everyone wants to blame Stansbury. Players weren't executing.

TheStateUofMS

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He got Bryant a wide open 3 he missed outta the corner outta the TO. I can't remember the exact score, but I think we were down 5 or 6 at the time with over 40 seconds remaining. Bost has a terrible game just like he's been having, Sidney's shot selection wasn't great, but neither was anyone's down the stretch. They had a RAT who had a career high, of course, against us, and we played very poorly from an execution stand point. Bost was forcing way too much shot, rather than be a distributor just like Damien Fishback said during commentary last night. Not to mention some horrible fouls that were called. The one around the 7min mark called on Deville for hand checking was the softest foul I've ever seen. The ref clearly just wanted a water break and that media timeout. Anyway, how do you blame Stans, and not player execution?
 

TheStateUofMS

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He got Bryant a wide open 3 he missed outta the corner outta the TO. I can't remember the exact score, but I think we were down 5 or 6 at the time with over 40 seconds remaining. Bost has a terrible game just like he's been having, Sidney's shot selection wasn't great, but neither was anyone's down the stretch. They had a RAT who had a career high, of course, against us, and we played very poorly from an execution stand point. Bost was forcing way too much shot, rather than be a distributor just like Damien Fishback said during commentary last night. Not to mention some horrible fouls that were called. The one around the 7min mark called on Deville for hand checking was the softest foul I've ever seen. The ref clearly just wanted a water break and that media timeout. Anyway, how do you blame Stans, and not player execution?
 

EAVdog

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Bost is obviously trying to shoot his way out of a slump. If he get gets back on track we'll be fine, if not we're in trouble. We lost because we missed way too many shots last night.
 

mos.sixpack

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Henry was guarding Bost a good bit in the game. I thought that was a smart move on Kennedys part. Bost had problems with Henry's length.
 

yee dawgy

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He's the coach. I think the coach is supposed to teach them not to do these things and inform them during the game that they're doing what he's told them NOT to do. Or even better-maybe teach them what to do and encoourage them to do it. Instead, it's "ok, yall know what to do. now go do it and let's win this game" as he said in the final timeout against Baylor.
 

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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri">We lost because we got out scored. Offense is a factor. Hell
if anything Sydney was one of the few bright spots on offense, he was our best 17
scorer. </font></p>

<p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri">Defense was a factor. We got pushed around. We still don’t
box out for **** (see UPig game). We have 3 guys guarding the ball and leave a
6’8” guy wide open at point blank. These are systemic problem that might be
coachable. 17 coaching might be a factor.</font></p>

<p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri">We did get some sharty calls. Officiating was a factor. We
played on the road in a ****** gym. That might be a factor.</font></p>
 

patdog

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HE recruited those players and HE coaches them. 2/5 of his job is to get good play from his guards. He's failed at recruiting a shooting guard and right now he's failing at getting our point guard to play anywhere near his potential. And, while he's generally done a good job of getting us to play good defense, this makes 2 of the last4 games he's failed to get any defense at all out of this team.</p>
 

Cousin Jeffrey

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I didn't watch the game. And you may have a point about this game in particular, or about other specific games. But a lot of what you mentioned are trademarks of a Stansbury-coached team...

"shot selection wasn't great"
some RAT having career highs against us
"played very poorly from an execution standpoint"
"forcing way too many shots"

There are certain traits of a team coached by Stansbury that will always find a way to show themselves, regardless of what players happen to make up the team. They're not isolated incidences. So individual games can be blamed on certain players or specific circumstances. But the trend is there.
 

patdog

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But the bottom line is Stans's ONLY job is to get this team to play well. And he's recruited a team with some glaring holes in talent. We don't even have a Div. I caliber shooting guard on the roster. That's a HUGE failure. There's just no other way to put it. Every team is going to have its ups and downs, but this team has just been painful to watch for almost the last month now. Honestly, even in the Baylor game I didn't think we looked as impressive as most everyone else did. True, there was a lot of good defense on both sides that night, but a lot of it was a couple of very mediocre offenses too. Look for Baylor to not be a top 10 team by the end of the season. They got blown out the other night and they're going to lose at home to Missouri on Saturday.</p>
 

Mjoelner

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It's baffling how everyone wants to blame Stansbury Croom. Players weren't executing.

There, does that make you feel better?
 

fishwater99

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TheStateUofMS said:
He got Bryant a wide open 3 he missed outta the corner outta the TO. I can't remember the exact score, but I think we were down 5 or 6 at the time with over 40 seconds remaining. Bost has a terrible game just like he's been having, Sidney's shot selection wasn't great, but neither was anyone's down the stretch. They had a RAT who had a career high, of course, against us, and we played very poorly from an execution stand point.<span style="font-weight: bold;"> Bost was forcing way too much shot, rather than be a distributor just like Damien Fishback said during commentary last night. </span>Not to mention some horrible fouls that were called. The one around the 7min mark called on Deville for hand checking was the softest foul I've ever seen. The ref clearly just wanted a water break and that media timeout. Anyway, how do you blame Stans, and not player execution?
It all comes back to coaching, Stans or someone needs to tell Dee to drive and dish. He made one good play to the RSS last night, that was it.
<span style="font-weight: bold;">It's our coaches job to see that our point guard distributes the ball, instead of jacking up bricks from downtown in transition with no teammates under the goal..</span>
 

DerHntr

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When there is no true structure to the offense, when the point guard has free reign to do anything he wants without consequence (see JaMoney here as another reference), then you get games where we make the EXACT same mistakes that are indicative of a Stansbury coached team. We shoot many ill advised shots throughout the entire team. Plus, we burn almost the entire shot clock when we are down by 5 or more points in the second half and still end up with a bad shot. That shouldn't happen more than a couple of times in a game when you are trailing IF you have an offense that has even aresemblance to a system.

One way to really show that we don't havean offense that makes a lot of sense is to have someone try to describe how we are effective year in and year out as an offense. I bet they struggle through that description.
 

Johnson85

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Pretty much all teams are going to go through rough patches and lose games they shouldn't. What State has done so far is fine as long as the get it together and get to at least a 6 seed in the tournament. With the talent we have, hard to argue that we shouldn't get seeded as one of the top 24 teams in the country. If Stansbury lets this team slip to the 8/9 slot, that will just confirm that he'll likely never make a sweet sixteen. You're just not going to get a team that's much more talented than this one at State, and it's hard to get to the sweet sixteen if you have to beat a one or two seed in the second round.
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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..after Vanderbilt beats this fading MSU squad by 20 Sat., this board will be nothing but a Stansbury bashing forum.

I think we are beginning to realize how overrated this team is. The Lawrence Roberts-led squad screwed the pooch in the tournament, but at least they knew how to win on the road in league play. This ____-lead squad (have no idea who the current leader of this team is) has been, & wil be, out-classed on the road.


Simply put, this squad is lazy & unfocused in road games.


To me, that sounds like a coaching problem.
 

mstateglfr

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mos said:
Henry was guarding Bost a good bit in the game. I thought that was a smart move on Kennedys part. Bost had problems with Henry's length.

Bost has trouble against smaller defenders with their quickness and he has trouble against bigger defenders with their length.

Well what the hell is he good for then.
 
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He got Bryant a wide open 3 out of the timeout. Indeed. And remind us all of Bryant's fabulous career shooting percentage from deep? As for everything else, it's the coach's job to have players mentally and emotionally ready to get after it. Sure, sometimes the shots just won't fall. Sometimes bad breaks are gonna happen. But look at what happened last night. We got down 12-3 out of the gates. Basically the same thing happened at Arkansas. And no one in their right mind would argue that either of those teams have better players than us. So what's it go back to? I will agree on one thing. It's not just Stans. It's his collective staff. How many teams have beaten down the door to hire any of his assistants besides Kirby lately? It's a weak staff overall and makes Stansbury's performance magnified even more.
 

tbaydog

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Just like our Football season, High hopes, but it fades quickly. I have no problem getting beat at home or on the road, but please don't embarrass us. There were no blocking out on defensive end. I don't know how many times Ole Miss was on offense and they got 2-3 shots per offensive set.
 

patdog

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I'm sure it wasn't that hard to get Bryant an open 3. Hell, I'd have left him open too if I was Kennedy.
 

tenureplan

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Which is needed most on the road. Face it, our senior leader has been and can be a head case. Our most talented player doesn't have the mental toughness to not eat that 8th scoop of ice cream.

The only two player who could be described as mentally tough are a transfer (who disappears vs physical big men) and a freshmans.

Is that a coaching problem? Not entirely, but they are his players.</p>