Its obvious from watching the Memphis U v South Panola game

Dawgfan61

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That Prep and JA would never be able to compete with Madison Central, South Panola, Olive Branch, Oak Grove, etc....
 
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I wouldn't ever count Prep out of any game and I'm not a fan. They seem to always have tough kids that fight and fight.
 

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against the private school doubters.

Memphis U's defense didnt have a guy above 220. I would say they more than competed with USP.

I would dare say that Prep and JA are not that far behind talentwise Memphis U. And in some other years, MRA, Washington, Lee Academy, and Pillow could be close to that talent level.
 

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I'm a MS private school supporter and graduate but MUS has immensely more talent than Prep or JA, and certainly more than Pillow. It's not even close.
 

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Prep and JA could COMPETE with any school in the state of Mississippi and other years some of the other private schools would be able to compete as well.

A defense comprised of no one over 220 lbs. just held the USP, obviously a top program in Mississippi. If you think for one damn minute that Prep or JA cant field just as talented of defense as Memphis U then you people are crazy.

I meant to take nothing away from the awesome Tennessee Private Schools, they are obviously immensely talented. They also have a state about 3-4 times bigger than Mississippi as well.

For years the MPSA had to listen to the likes of Mike Justice saying that private schools in Mississippi are behind the 1A public schools. Obviously in light of recent games pitting the associations that has been proven time and again to NOT be true, see Yazoo County vs. MRA, Prep v Pearl (twice), Prep v Lincoln, Prep v. George County, Prep v St. Stanislaus, MRA v St. Andrews, Canton Academy v St. Andrews. Bottom line if you can play ball you can play ball regardless of whether you are a private school student or public school student, african american, caucasian, latino, pacific islander, or asian...
 

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I went to a MS private school. I'm not a hater. MUS is able to beat a team like South Panola because they maybe be smallish but they have outstanding talent. Much, much, much more talent than Prep or JA. I live in Memphis, I see it. It's obvious that Prep can compete with most schools. Most. They beat a 4A team today, which is great. South Panola is 6A and would probably stomp St. Stanislaus. And Prep. MUS would stomp Prep most years as well. It's just a fact. Be delusional if you want, but don't ignore the opinions of people who live in the Memphis area and know the kind of talent the private schools have here. The MS private schools pale in comparison. MUS has 3 or 4 guys with Division I-A offers just in this class alone.
 

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however, prep or ja would easily compete with any school in the state of MS. Hell look at Provine-Madison Central tonight. Provine doesnt have 3-4 guys on their team with 1-A talent however they competed with Madison Central. Halftime score was 10-6 and final was 24-6. They lost but they did not they did not obviously get skull drug by any means.
 

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MUS openly recruits. Prep does not. Now, from time to time, Prep has a guy or two on the team that I know they probably recruited to come to Prep that might not otherwise be there. But, most of those kids on the team are not recruited. With the private school association, recruiting is prohibited. The thought has always been to quit the private school association, join the public school one and start openly recruiting. It is a hotly debated issue. I have a lot of misgivings about it. If you are a paying patron, and you look at a school like Baylor in Chatanooga where 2/3 of the student body is on some type of scholarship, it sort of pisses you off.

If Prep were to openly recruit, or JA for that matter, I have no doubt the could have a program like Evangel Christian and better than MUS.
 

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I like that the MAIS is playing and competing with comparable public schools. But to say "prep or ja would easily compete with any school in the state of MS", that's completely off base.
 

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The fact that recruiting and scholarships are perfectly legal in TN makes all the difference. And if Prep and JA were able to recruit openly, they would be a powerhouse no doubt.
 

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2005: MUS 41, Jackson Prep 9
2004: MUS 27, Jackson Prep 0
2003: MUS 21, Prep 16
2002: MUS 35, Prep 14
2001: MUS 35, Prep 6
2000: Prep 18, MUS 7 (MUS was 5-6 that season)
 

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The big MS publics (MC, SP, OB) would hurt some feeling's on teams from the private system. Brunetti is a D-1 qb/athlete, and I have seen Prep and MRA, and they have no one that has the skill set at a skilled postion to get a D-1 scholly.</p>
 

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accomplish, you're not delusional, just insane. When Prep, JA, MRA or any MAIS school is ready to book MC, SP, OB, or Meridian, they should do it, but everybody needs to understand that those games while be hyped by the papers, and those public boys and coaches will carry a chip on their shoulder that week. They will go out to do one thing on Friday night, and that is to embarrass that MAIS team to the utmost extent of the word. I played academy and 5A ball in this state, and the speed, size, and physicality is mucho more in big public as it was in big private. Now don't get me wrong, there are some young men in the MAIS that can play/compete with the big publics and probably start if they attended, but you are talking about 3-4 out of your entire team. The big publics will have 12-15 that would come to private and start just by showing up. You can talk all you want about the coaching that the MAIS does in comparison to smaller publics, but the coaching in the big publics is solid from a fundamentals.
 

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recruiting and scholarships are technically illegal in Tennessee. Teams must openly disclose all scholarships. However, there are loop holes and many ways to disguise them. Also, there are some private schools that do it the right way.
 

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Porkchop said:
MUS openly recruits. Prep does not. Now, from time to time, Prep has a guy or two on the team that I know they probably recruited to come to Prep that might not otherwise be there. But, most of those kids on the team are not recruited. With the private school association, recruiting is prohibited. The thought has always been to quit the private school association, join the public school one and start openly recruiting. It is a hotly debated issue. I have a lot of misgivings about it. If you are a paying patron, and you look at a school like Baylor in Chatanooga where 2/3 of the student body is on some type of scholarship, it sort of pisses you off.

If Prep were to openly recruit, or JA for that matter, I have no doubt the could have a program like Evangel Christian and better than MUS.
Openly recruits? I went to MUS and played football there. Started varsity for 2 years. We do not openly recruit. Let us not even go into the academic requirements that every student has to meet including athletes. Do they have nice facilities and ask you to come take a look at the school? Sure. If you are unable to pass the entrance exam does MUS just admit you because you are athletically gifted? No.

2004 was my senior season. I played Prep and have to say they were absolutely terrible. We ran a total of 4 plays the entire game which basically amounted to power right and power left. We completely outmatched Prep. I am not saying Prep does not field some good teams, but you are extremely delusional if you believe they could field teams better than MUS. Simply be recruiting. MUS does not give out scholarships; they give out need based financial aid. Big difference. It is amazing how ignorant some of you are. You spout things simply because your ego and pride is hurt that Prep refused to play MUS anymore after getting their proverbial rear ends handed to them year in and year out.
 

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You just have to role with it, and remind yourself that these people live in fantasyland. A large majority of them don't even realize that there is intelligent life forms outside of their tiny world that they really couldn't handle if they were strapped down and shocked back into reality. No surprise alot of the are OM fans, go figure!
 

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Yeah, I think intelligent life exists only at Prep -- damn. I sure as hell don't think that it only exists at JA.

MUS recruits. Just because you played there doesn't mean you are or were aware of it. So does Prep. However, it is more prolific at MUS. If you don't think that talented athletes whose parents happened not to think automatically of enrolling their students at MUS aren't disproportionately more eligible for need based scholarships, I guess I would just ask you to give that a little further thought. What MUS might not do -- I don't know, and you might not either -- is relax their academic admission standards in order to recruit athletes. I don't believe Prep does either. Unless you have remedial academic programs, there really is not point in doing that.

I said something in another post (or was it this one) that Baylor basically does the same thing -- need based scholarships are really common, and disproportionate among athletes at the school. You figure out the reason.

That's the mistake that Hillcrest made a few years ago. They went on a recruiting binge in the Jackson Public schools looking for athletes. Many of them were admitted into remedial leaning programs (why even have that in a private school?) and coincidentally didn't receive athletic scholarships. But, amazingly, they qualified for need based scholarships.

What we HAVE had to listen to from SOME people for years in years is that basically the worst public school team around would beat the best private school team in the state becuse, well, that's just academy ball. On the other hand, I have never heard anyone from Prep say that we can beat any team in public school ball. I think our contention is that we would be able to be very competitive among schools with similar class sizes and would win championships from time to time. That's the way we role.
 

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MUS does not relax academic standards for anyone including athletes. This I know to be a fact. There are no remedial programs at MUS. Of course MUS is going to consider those with gifted abilities first for need based scholarships. If you are giving something, you want something in return. That is simple business. The school is a business. It is there to give you something and get something out of you in return. I know for a fact that MUS has kids on need based scholarships for academic related pursuits as well.

I know they "recruit". I just don't see why people always use it as an excuse when they get slaughtered. All I hear are excuses why Prep loses and it gets old.