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Greg Marshall. Former Wichita State coach who has to resign in 2020 due to abusive behavior towards his players and assistant coaches
Let me ask you this question. What if MSU wanted to hire Bruce Pearl before Auburn got him. What would be your opinion on that? We all need to decide if we are serious about winning. If we are we have to "play the game" I'm all in and don't give a 17 about optics.
Why do we keep running from the obvious answer?
https://www.wjtv.com/news/hometown-heroes-coaching-on-and-off-the-court/
Of course he is like 68 years old. Oh well.....
https://www.wjtv.com/news/hometown-heroes-coaching-on-and-off-the-court/
Of course he is like 68 years old. Oh well.....
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Can he demonstrate that he had psychological issues that are now under control? If so, I could get behind hiring him under a zero tolerance policy.
I'm not opposed to hiring Miller because of this, but just to be clear, Bruce Pearl invited a recruit to a BBQ and then lied about it. Miller was caught paying players by the FBI. They are not the same.
I would have been fine with Pearl. He is a showman, or rather he certainly was when he was at Tennessee, but I wouldnt have been disappointed if he had been hired at MSU.
Do you realize what Pearl did? He got a show cause for lying about a recruit being at a 17ing cookout. It was a dumb lie because pictures showed the kid was there, but that isnt something thats nearly on the level of Miller and AZ.
This is like when Kelvin Sampson had a show cause and message boards as well as commentators were taking him down a couple rungs. The action that he did was made legal a few years later. The NCAA actually thinks what he did is perfectly OK in present day.
You have to consider the circumstances for each situation.
Yeah I would take Pearl with his dumb lie over Miller's wrongdoing.
That was a great news article on Coach Billups. I wish we saw more news articles like that.
According to Drebin, we arent supposed to assume or think any thoughts about that which we dont have full detailed knowledge.
In all seriousness though, I dont know what Pearl did at UT beyond what he was fired and banned for doing. If there is more that is proven, lemme know.
Now I would have a different answer if I were asked about taking Pearl today. Based on that, I would include the Auburn FBI scandal that nailed Person. And including that would change my mind about Pearl as I think Pearl had to have known about what his assistant was doing in some manner.
Yeah, unfortunately I had never looked into his age. Just don't think it will work with him.
But the CONCEPT is a good one.....maybe Kenny Payne really is the guy? No matter what I really do think we need to start some serious focus on Jackson basketball. I don't know what kind of AAU or whatever they have going around there, but if run correctly, seems that could produce a lot of prospects.
We just have to do things differently. We aren't Kentucky or North Carolina, we can't recruit nationally, not well anyway. We tried that with Howland with the Adidas stuff, and here we are. We are better, but just not there yet.
And of course the portal is always going to be of use for us.
Pearl was given a show cause. Miller wasn't. Clearly there's more to the Pearl story.
Mullen was neither a sociopath or psychopath. Dude was just introverted and very dry. People who understand that quickly label folks like with any number of things, like you did.
Miller was paying $10k/month for Ayton. Is there clearly more to the Pearl story or did Miller get off with a slap? Both would explain the significantly different penalties.
"Lying a about a barbecue" isn't near enough to get a show cause. It's not just Miller who was punished much less for doing much worse than that.
“Hey there, son. Let me tell you about my friend Jesus. He’ll be your best buddy or your worst enemy. Jesus. The Son of God? No, no. Hey-Seuss. He’ll bring you a bag of cash on signing day that’ll be enough to make your wildest dreams come true. But do wrong by me, and he’ll break your tibias so bad that you won’t even have enough moves left to get the odd ruble tossed your way while you’re playing street ball in Moldova. Jesus, my friend. If you want to meet him, you come on down.”
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And yet, based on what I have read thru the years, it happened. It isnt near enough, yet it was.
If you know of more that I am leaving off or forgetting or whatever, offer it up. It happened more than a decade ago, so I very well could be forgetting something. I do remember he didnt even land the recruit- it was Craft who was damn solid at Ohio State.
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