supporting Brands because Terry is a great man, but it's probably time
I've been hanging on
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It’s long overdue. Too late as a matter of fact. Writing has been on the wall for all to see and now the choices are to stick with the current coaches and completely drive the program into the ground or act in desperation because leadership didn’t plan ahead. Is what it is.
“WhAt MaKeS yOu ThInK DaViD tAyLoR iS gOiNg To Be A gOoD cOaCh?”
Everyone needs to get past the personal aspect of decisions like these. I think both Tom and Terry are good men and have done a lot of great things for the university. But the results are simply unacceptable and there's zero reason to expect a significant turnaround.
It's time.
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David Taylor wouldn't have come to Iowa for all the money.
He has long since been more than on board with waiting for Iowa to fade from the wrestling consciousness.
People can't let go of Iowas dynasty under Gable.
They would honestly rather Penn State win every title for the next 30 years and break Oklahoma State's record, than see anyone else challenge them, let alone Iowa.
Taylor wants to bring back Oklahoma State because he has more respect for that program and always has.
Our fans need to understand this and deal with it............
David Taylor is on record (prior to taking the Okie State job) that he would love to coach in Iowa City, but you're right lol.
Edit: Can't find the podcast as it's been a few year, but I believe it was with Askren, who said he wanted DT to take over the Iowa program.
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Who gives a f*** about David Taylor. This whole concept does not exist in this universe and never will.
I think Beth does it like this:
“Tom, changes need to be made. Look at your staff and make them. If you don’t I will, and the change will be the head coach. “
We’ll see.
“Tom, changes need to be made. Look at your staff and make them. If you don’t I will, and the change will be the head coach. “
We’ll see.
I've been supporting the Brands for years up until this year.
There's no excusing the lack of recruiting, the passive wrestling, the lack of offense, the lack of conditioning, our guys gassing before the other team, our guys having zero scrambling abilities, the horrible ROI on expensive portal guys...
It's over. The sport has passed them by. I wish they'd recognize that bowing out and leaving is truly what would be best for the Iowa program but I don't see that happening. BG needs to make a move.
There's no excusing the lack of recruiting, the passive wrestling, the lack of offense, the lack of conditioning, our guys gassing before the other team, our guys having zero scrambling abilities, the horrible ROI on expensive portal guys...
It's over. The sport has passed them by. I wish they'd recognize that bowing out and leaving is truly what would be best for the Iowa program but I don't see that happening. BG needs to make a move.
Not just staff. Brands need to go too. Otherwise it'll be the same old ****
Yup, Brands has had plenty of time to change up the staff. It's time to clean house and move on from this ****.
Yes, it’s time. And I’d rather forfeit Bailey and Williams weights for the rest of the year than watch those two puds wrestle.
So tired of the inconsistency of this coaching. These coaches are sapping the very energy out of these talented wrestlers.
It's about 2 years top late for that....
BURN IT.
There are a LOT of coaches that would jump at the chance to coach Iowa. Is there anyone left that thinks that a new coaching staff will do any worse than this? They may not get us another Natty, but I Brands isn't not going to get us back on top of the podium
WTF are we doing here?
What an awful point and post.
Maybe just sit this one out.He’s had years and the full authority to upgrade the staff and has refused to do so. And set bridges on fire with guys who would have been interested in coaching here.
He’s had that chance already. Time to move on.
I don’t necessarily disagree, but who is the answer at the top? Kirk dealt with that in football. He took it and moved forward. Can Tom? If so, maybe he shows a willingness to do the things that need to happen to win more consistently.What an awful point and post.
He’s had years and the full authority to upgrade the staff and has refused to do so. And set bridges on fire with guys who would have been interested in coaching here.
He’s had that chance already. Time to move on.
if he doesn’t, well, bye.
As others have said, Tom had his chance for that a missed it.
The real conversation should go like this
Tom:
“Beth, I love this university and program but it’s clear to me that it’s time for the next chapter. I would like to help ensure this is a smooth transition so let me know if there is anything I can do.”
Taylor would have jumped at the chance to coach at Iowa if he was given the chance. ImoWhat an awful point and post.
He’s had years and the full authority to upgrade the staff and has refused to do so. And set bridges on fire with guys who would have been interested in coaching here.
He’s had that chance already. Time to move on.
Not going to happen. The mindset of people like Tom Brands, awesome when it works and horrible when it doesn’t, is “I can win, no defeat”. It is that attitude that actually makes them great.
.Spot on. Should be thinking self preservation of legacy at this point.
Oh yeah, well your point and post were awful. See, I can do that too......
Nah, I'm pretty cozy here. I think I'll stay a while and see how things play out............
hanging on to what exactly? the 27 and 28 classes that are arguably equal to the classes that PSU gets every year and OSU is now getting every year?
Oh yeah, well your point and post were awful. See, I can do that too......
Nah, I'm pretty cozy here. I think I'll stay a while and see how things play out............
But it was just bad. You were immediately presented evidence to the contrary, which also reinforced simple logic. You tried way too hard.
Yep, sometimes the traits that make us excel in one part or time of life are also the ones that hold us back in another.....
If an AD must tell a HC he must make staff changes, that AD has the wrong HC.
Brands brothers still relatively young (mid-50s) , what would they do if they just walk away? In other words, they aren’t going to walk away on their own.
we have one more year to enjoy their contributions.
Probably not.
The ego is a hell of a drug. Many examples of once greats losing their edge over time, making it about them, and not making decisions that are best for the organization. This story continues to play out in real time and everyone knows the ending.
I would be very surprised if they all show up.
Depends on the time and situation. Was anyone saying this in 2010 or 2020? But yes, I absolutely agree.
Crazy to think Iowa can have more losses this season than the previous 6 combined...
I don’t think it’s ego so much as tunnel vision. As other posters have said, their drive to compete makes them think if they just work harder, the results will come, when they need to be working smarter
Umm, hunt, fish, chop wood, take vacations, hang out in the Cesspool.....