In today's Starkville Daily News, the SA President says he still must meet with the Alderman to approve the site. That doesn't bode well for Bulldog Bash. Seems like I remember the Crowes and Widespread both being put on some sort of blacklist. I assume that the Crowes have been approved to play by the administration (I'm assuming), but that don't mean they can play in the Cotton District. The BOA has a strange new make-up and nothing is guaranteed.
I've got a bad feeling about Bulldog Bash.............
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If the Alderman 17 this up, we can just give up on Starkville ever being a great college town. This is THE best event of the year in Starkville. I doubt it happens, but politics can make people do some stupid things.
Black Crowes: F-bomb dropped at concert back in early 90s (I kid you not, I still heard about the outrage caused by this years later)
Widespread: multiple drug arrests at concert in 2000
I remember them tearing up their dressing room after their show in 93(?). That was a long time ago. Is that why they were blacklisted? If we still had to answer to things we did in 93 many of us would be screwed.
With the new board anything is possible. It seems they are trying to do everything in their power to take Starkville back 20 years.
This cant be it..I remember lead singer of Sister Hazel starting a "Get the 17 out!" chant to a heckler at Bulldog Bash several years back and they have returned have they not?
If the SA has announced it, the contract has been signed. If the board doesn't approve of the site, then they will move it on campus. Board can't do much about that.
Ask the MSU Rugby coach if it's OK. He seems be waist-deep in the
cluster-17 that is Starkville politics.
"Mississippi State University rugby coach Randy Pounds told city officials Tuesday he's willing to pass on a proposed tournament and its projected $451,000 in economic stimulation if mayor Parker Wiseman continues to make negative comments to the media about Starkville Parks Commission Chairman Dan Moreland."
"Pounds' speech highlights a growing wedge between political ideologies in Starkville. During the mayoral campaign season, then-GOP candidate Moreland crafted a succinct platform: He was pro-business, while the former administration, led by Wiseman, crafted numerous pieces of legislation -- the city's sidewalk ordinance and difficult building codes, for example - that prevented job and business growth."
"Now Pounds, who openly supported Moreland's work with Starkville Parks, said he was willing to take business out of town if Wiseman, via the Dispatch specifically, again criticized the former mayoral candidate."
http://www.cdispatch.com/news/article.asp?aid=26154&TRID=1
cluster-17 that is Starkville politics.
"Mississippi State University rugby coach Randy Pounds told city officials Tuesday he's willing to pass on a proposed tournament and its projected $451,000 in economic stimulation if mayor Parker Wiseman continues to make negative comments to the media about Starkville Parks Commission Chairman Dan Moreland."
"Pounds' speech highlights a growing wedge between political ideologies in Starkville. During the mayoral campaign season, then-GOP candidate Moreland crafted a succinct platform: He was pro-business, while the former administration, led by Wiseman, crafted numerous pieces of legislation -- the city's sidewalk ordinance and difficult building codes, for example - that prevented job and business growth."
"Now Pounds, who openly supported Moreland's work with Starkville Parks, said he was willing to take business out of town if Wiseman, via the Dispatch specifically, again criticized the former mayoral candidate."
http://www.cdispatch.com/news/article.asp?aid=26154&TRID=1
starkville and the leadership is seemingly always at odds with the university. what the hell is their problem? dont they see that msu is their life-blood and if they cut-off or retard growth, it only hurts the city. what...they dont want nice things in the city, better schools, better shopping, better restaurants, more businesses, a higher standard of living...etc, etc.....? wtf starkville.
Starkville politics is a total cluster 17. And this politicizing of the mismanagement of Parks and Rec is not coming from the Mayor but people like the Parks and Rec Commissioner and his good friend the rugby coach. If the rugby tournament is moved for petty politics then that coach is an *******. More likely they'll move it just like so many other tournaments that have left the Starkville Sports Plex. The fields aren't maintained properly and don't drain properly. The facilities aren't maintained properly. The amenities suck and access sucks. As a result Starkville loses a lot of money from regional tournaments that are now played in places like Tupelo and New Albany. This is due to poor leadership and management in Parks and Rec.
This problem has occurred even as the Parks and Rec budget has grown. And this problem dates to before the current mayor and previous board was elected. What's more Parks and Rec receives a sizeable portion of the 2% tax. That part of their budget continues to grow as well because past city administrations and GSDP finally got serious about branding Starkville with an attractive identity through planning, promotion and code enforcement. So while loosing 2% monies our Parks system should be generating by hosting tournaments to other communities the city should reward the current Parks and Rec commission by giving them more money to mismanage,of course not. They should clean house on the Parks and Rec commission. That's not playing politics that's good governance. The Parks and Rec commission is appointed. Has almost autonomous oversight over a sizable chunk of public funds. And they are obviously having difficulty managing their budget.
This problem has occurred even as the Parks and Rec budget has grown. And this problem dates to before the current mayor and previous board was elected. What's more Parks and Rec receives a sizeable portion of the 2% tax. That part of their budget continues to grow as well because past city administrations and GSDP finally got serious about branding Starkville with an attractive identity through planning, promotion and code enforcement. So while loosing 2% monies our Parks system should be generating by hosting tournaments to other communities the city should reward the current Parks and Rec commission by giving them more money to mismanage,of course not. They should clean house on the Parks and Rec commission. That's not playing politics that's good governance. The Parks and Rec commission is appointed. Has almost autonomous oversight over a sizable chunk of public funds. And they are obviously having difficulty managing their budget.
For some folks here. No, they don't want nicer things. And there is a community that believes Starkville would be better off without the university. It's a crazy mixed up world we live in.
Still I will be surprised if the BOA nixes this. I think they can muster four yea votes for the SA's request.
Still I will be surprised if the BOA nixes this. I think they can muster four yea votes for the SA's request.
I am not saying that something as petty as the F word would keep them out still. I am only saying that the reason there may be a perception that they are blacklisted is because some people got real upset about the F word (and maybe them playing a little late) back in the 90s. So upset that I heard about it when enrolled in 97' and worked at the radio station...take it for what it's worth.
This is the truth. There is a sizable portion of the local community who despise the fact that the university and the students are even there. They do not want growth. They want Starkville to be a sleepy little retirement community. I worked at a local bank in Starkville for a few years. They are pretty open about it.
blackcrowes.com still says Oct 5th is St Augustine FL, they may not change that until the ink is dry on 'Vegas deal. That website says they are in New Orleans Oct 2 then St Augustine the 5th and then nothing till Nov 11. I'm thinking they looked at leaving New Orleans and going to Starkville vs going to St Augustine and maybe cancelled the FL trip then its vacation until 11/11.
thats really disappointing to hear. i hate it for them, but they are going to be drug kicking and screaming into the modern era....its been slowly happening over the last two decades and will inevitably continue with or without their support and for the betterment of our state, oktibbeha county, and the city of starkville. if you want a sleepy little **** town, you live in mississippi, there are plenty to choose from, but starkville is a college town and nothing they can do will change that fact. progress is inevitable so they might as well move to some other **** town or embrace it and quit making everyone miserable.....what a bunch of selfish pricks.
also, where are the business owners in the whole grand scheme of things? do they not have the balls to stand up and have their voices heard? i seriously doubt they dont want more money, asses in their restaurants, customers in their stores, etc....so where is their voice in all of this? im sure they have one, but i dont know the intricacies of starkville politics. surely, they are banding together and getting support from their side of the community to combat this idiocy.
the fact that local politicians are trying to make it harder to start businesses in starkville and restrict expansion is absolutely mind-boggling to me, yet, having been a student, is sadly not all that surprising. what a bunch of dumbasses. thats like the stone age guy telling the bronze age guy, "yo, im cool with my rock."
the fact that local politicians are trying to make it harder to start businesses in starkville and restrict expansion is absolutely mind-boggling to me, yet, having been a student, is sadly not all that surprising. what a bunch of dumbasses. thats like the stone age guy telling the bronze age guy, "yo, im cool with my rock."
Until the recent public dustup of Starkville politics I had no idea who..
...now comprises the Starkville BoA. Had some dealings with one of them a few years ago. Really sad to see that person now with some influence over the direction of Vegas. Scary for you guys living there, actually.
...now comprises the Starkville BoA. Had some dealings with one of them a few years ago. Really sad to see that person now with some influence over the direction of Vegas. Scary for you guys living there, actually.
I'd rather them have the concert in the District simply to fill bars and because of the house party atmosphere, but the amphitheatre is a close second. Great place to see a concert
I was at the Black Crowes concert back in '93. I don't remember any 17s thrown or any major disturbances. I do remember plenty of Mary Jane at the concert. Good times.
Need to move their *** to West Point, Columbus, or Louisville. What does Starkville offer that those communities do not? Exactly -- the university is it's ONLY draw...
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm not up to date on Starkville politics either --- but this seems to be ******** spewed by a guy with an(oppressive) agenda -- trying to wield what little power he thinks he has to control a progressive mayor that's busting his *** to modernize Starkville as a friend of MSU.
What the mayor has actually done is stopped people from opening up shitholes with non-sustainable business plans(and leaving said ******** as an eyesore on our town). He's making people need to invest more on business startups(thus improving the town while they are at it) -- and attracting longterm successful and attractive businesses instead of nickel and dime crap that closes within six months. So, yes, he "restricts" business opportunities -- but it's only to people that don't have the funding to be in business in the first place.
Stricter building codes = nicer community. See Madison for a perfect example.
1st time to smoke weed at the Crowes concert in 93. They had a huge Mary Jane flag drop down behind them. That's probably the hang up.
Who gives a flying 17 about a rugby tournament....take it somewhere else, no on gives a 17.
So the BoA is trying to stop a progressive mindset for the town...I agree, move to West Point old timer, a college town isn't your place. Stupid old redneck mindsets17 up a lot of **** in the South.
Who gives a flying 17 about a rugby tournament....take it somewhere else, no on gives a 17.
So the BoA is trying to stop a progressive mindset for the town...I agree, move to West Point old timer, a college town isn't your place. Stupid old redneck mindsets17 up a lot of **** in the South.
Nicely played. Great song
Here's my fave version of it...fast forward through Chris rambling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhBrTry-FrA
Here's my fave version of it...fast forward through Chris rambling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhBrTry-FrA
At a Buddy Miles concert in the early 70`s the "smoke" was so thick in the cow barn that you didn`t have to actively participate to enjoy. Some of today`s "old timers" you`re talking about probably were in that concert and their memory has failed them. **** happens with age but I`ll assure you that no group that has come through has really added a bunch of new **** to what was being done by the student body 4 decades ago. The hypocrisy of some of the "old timers" is pretty funny at times though.
There is a better chance of crips and bloods rolling through Vegas
Than there is snoop shooting someone in Starkville
Than there is snoop shooting someone in Starkville