I've got a question for the board

JacksonDevilDog

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I've heard it many, many times about MSU football. I was listening to Rivals Radio on Sirius radio last week and Bill King (show host) said that
Mississippi State might be the hardest BCS conference school in the nation to win at in football. I understand where we are in the food chain in the SEC and
nationally, but I find that hard to believe. I'm not trying to make this a UM vs MSU thing, but what makes Oxford so much easier to recruit to and be
sucessful at? Vandy is at a higher disadvantage than us because of academics. I know our stadium isn't that large, but our campus is nice and our other
practice facilities are pretty decent. Starkville isn't South Beach and doesn't have that "curb appeal" that Rivals Radio talks about, but
it's not that damn bad. I can name a dozen or so BCS teams that have worse facilities and fan support than what MSU offers. Do ya'll think that MSU is
the hardest school in the nation to win at in football? Thoughts?
 

vicious

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plus the lack of good educational systems, which ultimately fail Mississippi kids when it comes to national testing, combine to make it one of the hardest. UM has more national appeal and we are constrained more by the state's limitations.
 

dawgoneyall

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always had his head stuck up Ole Miss's ***. Don't know why but he does but he does and thus will always disparage MSU. But we do make one hell of a target.
 

Coach34

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That statement reminds me of the dumbass from Bama saying we should leave the SEC- since that article, they havent beaten us...How in the hell is it harder to win at State than it is to win at:

1. Dook
2. Maryland
3. Wake Forest
4. Baylor
5. Iowa St
6. Kansas
7. Kansas St
8. Indiana
9. Purdue
10. Minnesota
11. Northwestern
12. Washington State
13. Stanford
14. Oregon St
15. Mississippi
16. Vandy
17. Kentucky
18. South Carolina
19. Upig
20. Connecticut
21. Rutgers
22. West Virginia

Anybody saying its alot harder to win at Mississippi State than at those schools is a dumbass. We can win here- Jackie showed us it is possible...But you cant have a dumbass running the program like we do currently. But a good hire can win football games at MSU</p>

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dawgfan77

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First off King is a UT homer.
Most people who say that about us, have not been to Starkville in years, and have not been on campus. We have better facilites than most Big 12, ACC, Big East, and Pac 10 schools. Hell, we are not far off from the top of the SEC. Other than our stadium we are on par with most SEC schools, don't belive me, tour ours on online then go look at others in the SEC. When the day comes to bowl in the south endzone our stadium will look just as good as some of the larger one's espcially now with the Tron.

Recruiting is made difficult because other schools raid MS, but that doesn't mean we cannot compete. Even under *** hat we have recruited the state well. What you have to do is recruit from Dallas to ATL and all states in between. You need to try and sign 4 or 5 JC's every year, there is too much talent in this MS JUCO's not to.

But to answer the question, "is MSU hard to win at", No, but being in the SEC makes it difficult to compete for the NC every year. You can average between 6 and 8 wins every year with once every 4 or 5 years maybe going after 9 or 10.
 

bonedaddy401

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there is no way we are the hardest school to win at. Coach34 just listed many that are definitely harder to win at and some arguable ones but the point remains the same. No.
 

dawgatUSM

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absolutely ridiculous statement. now, we will probably never be a consistent power, but i don't see anything prohibiting us from winning consistently
 

DawgatAuburn

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....then you were listening to him on WLAC where they talked for 4 hours a day about the fight for position between the 3rd and 4th string left guard for UT. Other than Florida, their only real rival, no other SEC school existed.
 

TR.sixpack

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They were UT first, SEC second. But King never came off as a homer. Bob Bell was more homerish than King.
 

windcrysmary

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complete a-hole that I would not approve of allowing to help my grandmother cross a busy intersection..

but these are un-refuted facts... . there is NO reason these teams shoudl have a heads up on MSU and ESPECIALLY OLD MISS...

rule 17 you lovers of defeat... we CAN and we HAVE done better and there is NO reason we can't do better ...MUCH better with an OUNCE of resolve and an OUNCE of BALLS!!!!!
 

RebelBruiser

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That's bogus. Vandy and Duke are probably two of the toughest, along with Northwestern. Any school like those that has the extra academic restraints while trying to compete with schools that don't is a much tougher job.

Also, I think it's bogus to say that either Ole Miss or MSU is an easier/tougher job. We're basically the same job. Each school can claim a few things that make it slightly more attractive than the other, but the total packages are almost identical.

It's really not even worth discussing this guy's point. I can tell you right now that what he's doing is he's trying to make excuses for Croom. Croom is labeled as a nice guy by the media, along with being the first AA head coach in the SEC. That gives him not only complete immunity from negative media. It also gives him media protection. That's all this is. He's trying to say that MSU is such a tough job that even the great Croom can't win.