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shsdawg

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bitched and moaned tonight but in all honesty, we ain't that far away. Stay the course. Dan is the man. Some of you recruits, ESP if you are from Mississippi, take note. Mullen WILL win big here. The Rebs just fired the best coach they can ever hope to get. He failed horribly, got worse every year. If you want to be the next whoever go to Bama. If you want to be THE whoever give us a shot.
 

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bitched and moaned tonight but in all honesty, we ain't that far away. Stay the course. Dan is the man. Some of you recruits, ESP if you are from Mississippi, take note. Mullen WILL win big here. The Rebs just fired the best coach they can ever hope to get. He failed horribly, got worse every year. If you want to be the next whoever go to Bama. If you want to be THE whoever give us a shot.
 

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players decent defense but never have enough playmakers to win against superior coaching and players.
 

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To realize is that we aren't going to go from a perinnial 4 win a season team to an annual contender. First we have to get to a 7 win per season team. THEN we take the next step. Dan can get us to7-8 per year. He may be able to take the next step, he may not. We just have to get there first and then be smart.
 

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I've watched it for 40 and other than durIng JWS' best years this is closer than we have ever been as a program. Your attitude, and quite frankly the normal attitude of THIS board in particular, is perfectly representative of the old LT MSU mind set.
 

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so this is Gene's Page now is it? Nothing but the party line is welcome. You can dish it but not take it. You guys talk a good game. Ban me, then you ARE Gene's page.
 

DerHntr

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this board is going to be in meltdown mode after a loss. it always has. are you really that damn surprised?
 

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I don't really see anything wrong with what they said. Yea...this board has it's share of dumbasses, but if it really bothers you that much... just leave the board for a while. This is not going to change any time soon.
 

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want to read what you want to hear. Just like Gene's Page. I read and responded.Fact remains that we have been IN every game this year, and we are quite obviously down from last year. If we win one or both of the last two we will be in a bowl. It won't be what we all wanted but a bowl in a down year is PROGRESS from where we have been as a program. That hasn't happened since 2000. Building programs is ALWAYS an up and down business. The trick is raising the level of BOTH up and down, over time. We have always hada quick trigger with coaches, it's really worked well don't you think?
 

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This really isn't a down year. We had inflated expectations going in. If we make a bowl then I see this as a successful year in a pure rebuild project. Back to back bowl games would be a big accomplishment.</p>
 

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Looks to me like that is you boys defending your whining. I've been reading it for years and listing to it forlonger than that(WAY before the net). Itis whatMSU fans have ALWAYS done. You boys seem to think you are something new, you aren't. YouDO have a point at ttimes. This time you are WAY off base. Wait to the end of the year. If we bowl then it's dissapointing, and THAT is a BIG step foward. If we don't then ***** away.
 

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We make back to back bowls and this is a success for Dan and the program. Nobody wants to lose any games but if Dan keeps us going to bowls the recruiting will get better and so will the results.
 

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is proof enough to me that you're being extremely defensive. I dare you to find a post where I've bitched about Mullen. The only thing I'm saying is that all the bitching is nothing new. It's going to happen and bitching about all the bitching ain't gonna accomplish ****. Call it defending the complaining if you want. Honestly, I just don't see a point in it.
 

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Itis whatMSU fans have ALWAYS done. You boys seem to think you are
something new, you aren't. YouDO have a point at ttimes. This time
you are WAY off base. Wait to the end of the year. If we bowl then
it's dissapointing, and THAT is a BIG step foward. If we don't then
***** away.
So you are asking a discussion forum to not discuss and instead wait until the end of the season. I'll pass this grand idea on to DS. We should shut the board down during the season. Awesome. I'll be much more productive this way. Thank you for your insight.
 

shsdawg

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we won't win as many as last year but you want the down side to be UP as well. That is really an UP. That's what so many MSU people can't seem to understand.
 

JackShephard

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But be careful or you'll get bashed over "moral victories". But you are spot on. Dan's got us close to taking the next step. If he learns from his mistakes and keeps working hard, he will get us there.
 

shsdawg

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you are worse than the ones doing it. It's time to stop it all and try something different, Bitching and excusing the bitching is what we have ALWAYS done.
 

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All I care about is that we be competitive and win games. It's apparent to me that we're becoming more competitive with the talent we currently have and that's all I can ask for. I'm not going to tell everybody that they need to say nothing but positive **** because that's unreasonable since everyone has their own opinions. This is a 17n public forum for Christ'ssake. If you want to look at nothing but the positives, you do that. Matter of fact, I encourage it, but don't be a damn ***** just because someone doesn't agree with you, you prick.
 

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and it's so predictable it's laughable. This attitude is WAY older than the LT this board despises. You are LT epitomised. It's time to REALLY try something new instead of ***** untill wefire. That is what we have ALWAYS done.It's really worked out well for us hasn't it? I'm tired of seeing this board be so terribly old school. Ban me LT and Gene. Discusing bad moves is one thing, blasting a good coach as a bad oneis something else. I bet you can't see and don't know the differeance.
 

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You can't think this is only something that goes on at MSU can you? You can't really be that dumb. Message boards of some of the best damn teams in the country have people bitching on them after a loss. Ever heard of the site that reposts all of the weekly meltdown posts from around the country? Yeah, Bama fans were featured on it last week. That's right. The same Bama that is one of the best football programs of all time and that we lost to tonight.
 

shsdawg

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told me I shouldn't post or read here because I went against the ***** and moan party line here. That is EXACTLY what got the founders here banned from Gene's board, notfollowing the party line.
 

shsdawg

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that is what you are doing all right. You blast someone for being POSITIVE, really helpful that is.OLD MSU rules here for sure. You are right on one thing: This board bills itself as a public forum. Evidently you don't like that.
 

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Nobody is forcing you or himto read me. It's time for dissenting voices here. Looks like you dissenters can't tolerate dissent.
 

DerHntr

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Rather than starting threads telling everyone to calm down and to not bash the coach, why don't you respond to those threads that are doing the things you don't like and use an argument, game stats, year over year stats showing how we are better with Dan as the coach than we have been in the past, etc? Or you could just ignore the crazy posts like most of the other rational people on the board and respond in the topics that match better with your own thoughts.

Telling everyone that they should listen only to you and follow your protocol on how to discuss things in fact makes you the Genespager. Me telling you to leave if you don't like the board because people post whatever they want is the exact opposite of how Gene handles things. This is why I said it wasn't necessary to ban you. Being surprised about people being overboard and bitching after a loss on sixpack shows a total lack of perception about what happens on a message board.
 

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is when someone acts like they're better than anyone else. You're doing well to ignore the fact that I'm pro Mullen and that you can't find a post about me bitching about him. My problem with you is how you're being a ***** when someone doesn't agree with you. Why the 17 should I be civil with you when you're being a prick? I assure you, it's not because you're "positive".
 

shsdawg

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fact remains you didn't like what I posted and told me to get lost. Seems you are good at giving advice you don't follow. Dissent is only tolerated here it seems if it is board tolerated dissent. What's funny given your latestpostis that going overbaord about a loss is encouraged here, pointing that out is not allowed. You are no better than what you left.
 
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