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BeardoMSU

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Banks has another INT, his 3rd of the year. He's having a really good rookie season. Who is Dee Milliner again?
 

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I saw that. Slay, on the flip side, is out for the season with a meniscus injury.
 

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Are you honestly shocked at Banks' success though? Guy makes up what he lacks in athletic ability with hard work and his IQ.

The rookie out of SELU is having a good year also. Recruiting!
 

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Are you honestly shocked at Banks' success though? Guy makes up what he lacks in athletic ability with hard work and his IQ.

The rookie out of SELU is having a good year also. Recruiting!

No, not at all. He's so long and instinctive he doesn't have to have tons of speed. I'm glad he's doing well, and make a point of telling my OM buddy just that, especially since he said that Banks was overrated and Milliner should have won the Thorpe: given Milliner's struggles this year, my buddy hasn't had anything to say.
 

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Milliner will eventually be a good CB. Banks got lucky going to an organization that didn't want to stick him out on the field on day one. So did Slay. Milliner was screwed from day one having to replace Revis.

But the fact remains that recruiting, especially recruiting in less populated states like Mississippi, is a crap shoot. You can't measure or teach the things that make Banks a great player. Other than his size his measurables would turn a lot of teams off.
 

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Banks has played in every game this year

Milliner will eventually be a good CB. Banks got lucky going to an organization that didn't want to stick him out on the field on day one. So did Slay. Milliner was screwed from day one having to replace Revis.

But the fact remains that recruiting, especially recruiting in less populated states like Mississippi, is a crap shoot. You can't measure or teach the things that make Banks a great player. Other than his size his measurables would turn a lot of teams off.

He has over 40 tackles and 3 interceptions. Pretty damn strong Rookie year. Not to knock Milliner or anyone else.
 

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But Banks and Slay have had the opportunity to come in behind someone. I'm not trying to defend the Jets or Milliner, I just think it's two different situations between the two. The Bucs and Lions signed some vets to start, and both at some point in the season have started over them... but they weren't asked from day one to go out there and beat the Megatrons of the NFL (interesting fact, Banks picked a tipped pass off Megatron... but he wasn't the one covering him).

Banks is going to have a good career and at this point could easily have a better career than Dee, but I think going back 32 of 32 teams would have picked Milliner first. I'd say the majority of Pro Bowlers each year weren't 1st round picks, so it's not a knock, but Dee demonstrated a higher ceiling at his short stay in Tuscaloosa and at the combine.
 

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But Banks and Slay have had the opportunity to come in behind someone. I'm not trying to defend the Jets or Milliner, I just think it's two different situations between the two. The Bucs and Lions signed some vets to start, and both at some point in the season have started over them... but they weren't asked from day one to go out there and beat the Megatrons of the NFL (interesting fact, Banks picked a tipped pass off Megatron... but he wasn't the one covering him).

Banks is going to have a good career and at this point could easily have a better career than Dee, but I think going back 32 of 32 teams would have picked Milliner first. I'd say the majority of Pro Bowlers each year weren't 1st round picks, so it's not a knock, but Dee demonstrated a higher ceiling at his short stay in Tuscaloosa and at the combine.

He actually was the one covering Calvin on that last play. He did get lucky on the INT, though, since Calvin stopped and got separation, but the safety was there to tip the pass to Banks. The coaching staff is really high on him.

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