Jack Del Rio
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What difference would it make? If you came through the public school system in the last 20 years, you couldn't read them. If you came through the last 30, you wouldn't understand them.
Instead, you need someone to tell you WHAT to think about it and how anyone who doesn't agree with what you were taught to think about it is a <fill in the blank with the catch-phrase du jour>.
Of course, one must consider if the left has burned them yet.
and if you came through before that your generation is responsible for this ********
For his next week he’s going to say they’re changing the name of the Redskins to the Red Savages.
I forgot. The wealthiest and most successful people today all went through private schools.
Not "all". But a lot.
The problem is, with regards to the public school system, there really is no competition. We can all agree that competition causes the cream to rise to the top, competition creates a better product at a better price.
With a monopoly, there is no accountability. There is no desire, other than lip service, to "float all boats". Instead, kids are lumped together not based on merit but rather by age. They are promoted by age rather than by accomplishment. They learn to "sit down and shut up". They are told that nothing is worth studying deeper than @ an hour when they have to stand up and move on at the sound of a bell or klaxon. They learn that simply repeating what the teacher says goes farther than taking a risk. I could go on and on...
Today, those who are successful are the ones who, for whatever reason, are willing to take those risks; who are willing to break the chains the school system tied to them and taught them to believe was best for them.
But, if we could just throw more money at the public schools we will get the better product they've promised. Except we haven't and we don't.
People who are smart enough and wealthy enough to pay for them, send their precious kids to better private schools. Few emerge from them poor or uneducated which unfortunately is the fate of many consigned to Goverment run schools. Not all, but a Hell of a lot more than those who attended Private schools.
Statistics that will back up the claim that more successful/wealthy people come from private schools?
It's difficult to post those exact statistics. But it might be worthwhile to see where the wealthy send their children to be educated? Some choose the Governent for that task, but most choose to pay for better private schools.
Ironically many in Governent who got wealthy from taxpayers send their own kids to private schools. Exhibit "A": Barrack Hussein Obama.
Not all. But most are and inferior to Privately run institutions. I can post those stats.
If I remember right they studied the scores on the SAT, the highest scores were home schoolers, next was private schools and finally public schools came in the lowest.
Says the guy who says a slave ship came to New England and ported after 1865. Now this is funny.
Private schools, Home schoolers and now Charter schools consistently average higher scores overall than most Governent run schools. There are of course some exceptions but they are indeed exceptions for Government run schools and there are not many.
No I haven't gone to storage yet. Let me give you one quote from a book I do have in the office.
"Thus it will be seen that the last capture of a slaver was by a Southern office and the good people of Massachusetts were engaged in this nefarious business at the beginning of our
un-happy war"
J. Julius Guthrie
Let me give you a couple of other quotes.
This from a radical republican who became the 6th Supreme court Chief Justice
"State Sovereignty died at Appomattox"
Salmon P. Chase
:The worst fears of those Boys in Grey are now a fact of American life-a Federal government completely out of control"
Professor Jay Hoar of Maine
"Thus it will be seen that the last capture of a slaver was by a Southern office and the good people of Massachusetts were engaged in this nefarious business at the beginning of our
un-happy war"
J. Julius Guthrie
Let me give you a couple of other quotes.
This from a radical republican who became the 6th Supreme court Chief Justice
"State Sovereignty died at Appomattox"
Salmon P. Chase
:The worst fears of those Boys in Grey are now a fact of American life-a Federal government completely out of control"
Professor Jay Hoar of Maine
Let me save you the time, no ship existed. Last slave ship to leave a New England harbor was in 1858.
As for "state sovereignty, if the Confederacy was all about "states' rights" then why did they make it impossible for a state to abolish slavery if they so choose to?
Let me give you but two examples...
1) I challenge you to compare a 6th grade textbook (it can be any grade, I just chose 6th) from today and a 6th grade textbook from 100 years ago. The degree of difficulty in the one from 100 years ago is outstanding - probably comparable to late high school or early college level today. Why is that? With all the money thrown at the public school system in the last 50 years, why are our public school students at a lower level than they were 100 years ago?
2) Have you read Thomas Paine's Common Sense? Bet you haven't or if you have, it was while you were in college or later. I chose this book(actually a pamphlet) because, other than the Bible, it is the greatest selling "book" in American history. When it was published in 1775-76, it sold well over 100,000 copies just in the first year here at home (well over 500K worldwide). This treatise on independence and freedom was no coffee table book. It was read and passed on to family members and neighbors. Virtually everyone read it and understood it. Mind you, this was before the public school system and people were taught at home or through apprenticeships. Today, you won't find it being read in the public school systems because its "too hard" and "above their level". Why was it not too hard for the people without public educations in the 1700's and only barely read and understood by university students today?
There's only one reason you can arrive at.
1) I challenge you to compare a 6th grade textbook (it can be any grade, I just chose 6th) from today and a 6th grade textbook from 100 years ago. The degree of difficulty in the one from 100 years ago is outstanding - probably comparable to late high school or early college level today. Why is that? With all the money thrown at the public school system in the last 50 years, why are our public school students at a lower level than they were 100 years ago?
2) Have you read Thomas Paine's Common Sense? Bet you haven't or if you have, it was while you were in college or later. I chose this book(actually a pamphlet) because, other than the Bible, it is the greatest selling "book" in American history. When it was published in 1775-76, it sold well over 100,000 copies just in the first year here at home (well over 500K worldwide). This treatise on independence and freedom was no coffee table book. It was read and passed on to family members and neighbors. Virtually everyone read it and understood it. Mind you, this was before the public school system and people were taught at home or through apprenticeships. Today, you won't find it being read in the public school systems because its "too hard" and "above their level". Why was it not too hard for the people without public educations in the 1700's and only barely read and understood by university students today?
There's only one reason you can arrive at.
No. Out of the @ 2 million people (don't have exact numbers because no census was actually taken until 1790) roughly 600-700 thousand were slaves. There were also indentured servants. Some were also illiterate due to a variety of reasons, i.e. special needs (although lower in number than today). This makes the book an even bigger phenomenon because of the percentage of people who actually read it.
Public and private schools can teach kids to read & write and do math problems. Public schools do a better job teaching kids not to think for themselves and trust their teachers for an opinion....
If Private educators don't do the job Parents demand and pay for, they lose the revenue.
When government schools fail to do the job taxpayers demand and are paying for, they scream for and typically get even more money.
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Well, it basically comes down to this - you tend to value what you pay for.
You get something for "free", like a public education, people tend not to put much value into it. The kids are there because they have to be. They are there to get "schooled", not educated, and the results show as much.
When you pay for it, you value it more. You put more care and stock into it and the results the derive from it. The market determines whether you've succeeded or not. That's where the private schools essentially become better educators for our children - the parents and kids are more involved because their own dollars are tied into the results.
That's typically the answer from the public schools, and always from the unionized schools. Give us more money we'll give you better results. Then it doesn't materialize and they repeat the mantra or they'll change the metrics. For example, in Virginia, you can fail a year-end test but still pass - because you scored higher than you did on last year's test! I'm not making any of this up - you can verify for yourself. Cyclical reasoning at its finest.