Jack's 18 Majors looking more and more difficult to catch

[Coach34]

Jack won his 14th at age 35- Tiger is still stuck on 14 at age 36.

Jack had to battle injuries as he got older which really slowed him. Tiger is now doing the same thing- he even has to wear corrective shoes now when he plays.

Jack won his next one at 38 and then 2 more at age 40. Three 2nd place finishes and 6 years before his last one at the great 1986 Masters.

The Tour no longer fears Tiger- and he will have to earn those last 4. Should be interesting the next 10 years

 

[Coach34]

Jack won his 14th at age 35- Tiger is still stuck on 14 at age 36.

Jack had to battle injuries as he got older which really slowed him. Tiger is now doing the same thing- he even has to wear corrective shoes now when he plays.

Jack won his next one at 38 and then 2 more at age 40. Three 2nd place finishes and 6 years before his last one at the great 1986 Masters.

The Tour no longer fears Tiger- and he will have to earn those last 4. Should be interesting the next 10 years

 

[Sutterkane]

It's been 4 years since he won a major. He looks like a completely different person than he did 5 years ago.

 

[GTAdawg]

At least the British Open or PGA Championship this year to have a shot to at least tying Jack. I feel that if he can snap the streak this year the others will follow in line before he hits 40. But as the dry spell continues I believe his intangibles to close major tournaments will leave him. The one thing he does have going for him though is his track record at Augusta, a course that seems to really suit his game. He can definitely still pick a couple more green jackets there.

 

[mstatefan88]

I'm going to stand by that. With as great as he drove it, he struggled hitting wedges from the middle of the fairway witin 30 feet of the hole the entire week at pin locations you could go at. He doesn't have that fire and he doesn't have the killer putting instinct he used to have. Ijust don't see him putting 4 good enoughdays together tobeateveryone in the fieldat a major.

 

[drt7891]

Coach34 wrote:

The Tour no longer fears Tiger

Everyone now realizes he's human... and I know his episode a few years ago has nothing to do with golf, I think it showed the world (and most importantly, Tiger himself) that he can 17 up, too. Psychologically, I bet that is still playing in his mind.. He does fine when the pressure isn't on (even in the event he won earlier this year... that pressure can't begin to match that of a major championship), but when the heat gets poured on in day 3 or 4 of a major, he cracks.

 

[dawgoneyall]

Why he quit.... It's not over?????.... If he ever makes a come back.....think steriods....

The boy used......

 

[MSDawg34]

Can't make a judgement off a US Open course. Those courses are designed to 17 everyone up. Look at Rory and Phil's weekend. Nobody discussing them never winning again. Tiger had a rough one today, but this setup will do that to anybody. He was leading after 36 holes, right after winning the Memorial. I think this weekend showed that he's getting it together even more by contending the first few rounds.

I think he passes Jack and ends up with 19 for 2 reasons: Augusta and Britain.

Tiger has proven that he can own Augusta and it sets up for those types of players to compete into the later years (Jack, Angel Cabrera, Kenny Perry, Couples, O'Meara) Y'all honestly think Tiger Woods is never going to win another green jacket? Just think about that.

The British in 2014-15 is at Royal Liverpool and St. Andrews. Tiger will still be very competitive in those years which happen to be the courses he has previously won at. St. Andrews twice.

He may be done winning US Opens but Pinehurst is coming up in a few years where Tiger has finished 3rd and 2nd respectively in his 2 Opens there.

My prediction: He has 5 to go to beat Jack. He will get 3 Masters/British 1 US/PGA and finally another green jacket to seal the deal in Augusta

 

[patdog]

He won't catch Nicklaus.

 

[thatsbaseball]

started testing and Tiger`s fall. He was more mentally dependent on them than physically. He still has the physcaltools to win if he can ever convince himself he can win without the juice.

 

[EmoryBellard]

It's probably 75% mental. Brute strength, quick reaction, and better healing would only help on the very outer margins, if at all.

Hell, you had David Toms in contention and I bet he can't bench press 125 lbs.

 

[Johnson85]

normal body. Have no clue if Tiger used or not, but judging by the injuries he's dealt with, steroids probably would have helped him the past few years.

Tiger could still put it together and run off a streak of 5 over four years, I just don't see it happening now. He's no longer dominant, and there's too much luck involved when you're talking about coming on top against several players who are as good or almost as good as him and another two or three dozen players who are not as good as him, but are capable of getting hot enough over two or three days to win.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

and yes, that course was ruined by the USGA. I'm sorry, you don't move the tee boxes by 100 yards in the middle of a tournament, or change how fast the course is.

He collapsed, but he was hitting his irons better than he has in 6 years.

 

[Coach34]

other golfers used to be bothered by the big crowds and attention he brought to the Tour 12-13 years ago. That doesnt come into play hardly at all now. These guys have been playing in front of huge crowds for 10 years now- and have become used to it. Tiger won 4-5 Majors off that aspect alone- he wont be getting those anymore. He will have to outplay the field.

He got outplayed by Jim Furyk on Saturday. That tells you all you need to know

 

[fishwater99]

Tiger is done, he is past his prime and is on the decline. No way he passes Jack. (Thank God)
He might win 2 more majors if he gets lucky. He is nowhere near the same player he was.
Tiger is now just an above average tour player, he is not the best one on the tour like he once was.

 

[theepicone]

I don't know how many more, but he will win more. He's still one of the best golfers if not the best. He has completely changed his swing and the way he plays to set himself up for the next 10-15 years. Steroids may have had a lot to do with it but he also needed to change the way he played because a person can't play likehe diduntil they're 45. He's hitting the ball better than he did in 2008 but his putting has fallen off. He used to make those 6-8 ft putts 9 out of 10 times. I don't think he wins one this year but once he fully gets comfortable with his new swing he will win a few.

 

[missouridawg]

you to read Hank Haney's "The Big Miss". For me, it put the steroids accusations to rest.

Tiger was doing the blood platelet therapy through Dr. Galea, which was perfectly legal and still is.

Now if Hank is lying, then yes, Tiger probably did steroids... but Hank doesn't have a reason to lie, in my opinion.

Also, the book is a pretty easy read and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

 

[22yardpunt]

nm

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

and yes, that course was ruined by the USGA. I'm sorry, you don't move the tee boxes by 100 yards in the middle of a tournament, or change how fast the course is.

He collapsed, but he was hitting his irons better than he has in 6 years.

You hit the nail on the head with that one. Tiger's one flaw is he has a hard time adjusting his putting if the greens change suddenly. Always has.

I don't think you will ever see "old" Tiger but I don't think it has anything to do with sterioids as much as his personal life, changing coaches and changing caddies.

Whether he will ever match Jack is subjective when it comes to wins. Go back and see how many #2 finishes Jack had in majors and if you factor that in there may never be anyone who will approach his overall dominance in the sport.

 

[GopherDawg]

we can rest assured Tiger never doped because his coach wasn't aware of it and because he was really receiving platelet therapy from Anthony Galea, convicted drug smuggler and alleged (by both US and Canadian authorities) HGH provider.

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[Dan Druff]

and yes, that course was ruined by the USGA. I'm sorry, you don't move the tee boxes by 100 yards in the middle of a tournament, or change how fast the course is.

He collapsed, but he was hitting his irons better than he has in 6 years.

As faras moving the tees, it'scalled adapting. Learn how to do it, or stop bitching. Everyone hadto play those tees and as far as the greens changing speeds, I call BS. NOBODY else complained about that.

I love Tiger morethan anyone on here, buthe was not hitting his ironsthat well.He hit a lot of FWs with irons off the tee but hell, if you can't hit the FW with a 4 iron then you shouldn't be playing in the USOpen. And secondly, his distance control was downright pathetic.On the weekend he was absolutely posing at iron shots from the FWthat were 20 yds short or long. Not exactly what Iwould callstriping his irons.

I still think he's close to dominating again. His swing looks phenomenal, but his wedge game needs to tighten up. His wedges on 18 Friday and Saturday were laughable bad

 

[Seinfeld]

but the new one is still plenty capable of winning. The difference is that Tiger used to be able to bring his B game and win or even his C game and contend. Today and for the foreseeable future, he's going to have to have his A game for four rounds to win a major. He can do it, but it's just going to be a lot harder than it used to be.

 

[missouridawg]

Hank was present when Tiger received the plately therapy from Dr. Galea. Tiger did many of these treatments.

Could Tiger have taken steroids and/or HGH? Absolutely. Could he have taken them through Dr. Galea? Yes, again. But I don't think he did.

 

[Coach34]

when paired with him on the last day- almost never shot under par. Maybe one guy did but that was it. They just wilted. And he won a few Majors because his opponents wilted moreso than him playing well. You're not seeing that the last 3-4 years. The guys on Tour are used to playing with the rock star crowds. They are also in better shape and weight training just like Tiger is.

It's a different Tour than it was 10 years ago