He must really hate Bilas if that's the case
Jay Bilas...
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Not a Bilas fan. Especially when discussing Duke. And he always complementing Kentucky one way or another. Seems like he goes out of his way regarding both too.
That was definitely an earned T. But it's one I don't hate the kid for. You get fired up at times and it was an alpha move. And you know what, it sparked them, especially Jackson. I don't think every game you should go around slapping balls out of people's hands, but it was no different that John Thompson telling Ewing to block or goaltend every shot for a stretch when G'Town was in the title game against Nova. Assert dominance at a cost.
I mute the TV when Len Elmore commentates games. I'm thinking about doing it with Bilas now. Lol
I don't have an issue with his complimenting other teams or dogging Duke when necessary, but there are times like in '15 when he says things like "there's no chance these guys can beat ____ or win a national title", when in fact, he probably knows that they have a chance. He's doing his job and unfortunately part of his job involves his alma mater. Duke hate sells more than Duke love. It is what it is.
What's the over/under on what week it takes the first "Duke hated white player" article to come out?
What's the over/under on what week it takes the first "Duke hated white player" article to come out?
So what you're saying is you don't just walk around slapping balls? Good to know if I ever meet you in person.
And per Bilas, and to a degree I have noticed it in JayWill, lets not forget a UNC alumnus heads up their network....They are definitely playing "Gilligan" to a degree to Mr.Skipper-paycheck baby....
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I do not know you as a person, but this comment says that you have no idea what you are talking about in this regard.
As far as Bilas calling games, his schtick is always about the refs now. He likes the sound of his own voice and goes into long dialogues, with himself, about the refs. Thus missing what is going on on the court. I klike Bilas and think he is a good person, but he has officially jumped the shark with me.
Another broken record is one of these threads every time Jay Bilas does one of our games. He came on the JJ Redick podcast a little while ago and actually talked about being comfortable in his skin and not showing bias towards Duke to maintain his professionalism. He was an excellent listen and talked about a wide range of topics. It reminded me of why he is the best in the business of College Basketball.
If you listen to him on that podcast and listen to him while he is calling a Duke game however, I think you're listening to two different people. I do think he goes out of his way, whether he does it subconsciously or not, to show that he isn't being biased towards Duke. He also goes out of his way to "stick up" for the refs, by claiming letter of the law. The refs took over that game yesterday. The sucked on BOTH sides of it. Duke benefited from a number of calls, the loose ball that gave Jackson a foul is one of them. But we also got hurt by BS calls. Long story short, I thought Jay was extremely annoying last night.
I caution anyone saying that they wish he didn't do any more Duke games though....because who is the alternative? I'd pick him over Len Elmore. I'd pick him over Dorris "Dribble Drive" Burke and a few others. Be careful what we wish for.
If you listen to him on that podcast and listen to him while he is calling a Duke game however, I think you're listening to two different people. I do think he goes out of his way, whether he does it subconsciously or not, to show that he isn't being biased towards Duke. He also goes out of his way to "stick up" for the refs, by claiming letter of the law. The refs took over that game yesterday. The sucked on BOTH sides of it. Duke benefited from a number of calls, the loose ball that gave Jackson a foul is one of them. But we also got hurt by BS calls. Long story short, I thought Jay was extremely annoying last night.
I caution anyone saying that they wish he didn't do any more Duke games though....because who is the alternative? I'd pick him over Len Elmore. I'd pick him over Dorris "Dribble Drive" Burke and a few others. Be careful what we wish for.
Personally I think Jay could BENEFIT from listening to Grant Hill do a Duke game. IMO, he does not go overboard against Duke to offset fact he is an ex Blue Devil, yet is far from a homer. In fact Grant is as natural IMO behind the mike as he was on the court....I think he and "Raft" are two of the best at complementing one another and neither takes himself too seriously...
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This is a cringe-worthy thread.
I am going to leave dissenting views as others' personal opinions. My view of Jay is a TOTAL Dukie. An alum of undergraduate and law school, Duke player, Duke assistant coach. He is also very connected and affirmed by Coach K.
If you don't like it when he calls a game -- find a radio station calling the game.
To provide some food for thought -- lawyers are trained to mitigate risk, not maximize return. Jay's very overt stance to not be bias to Duke is in that training.
Cheez -- this is a funny (not laughing) thread.
I am going to leave dissenting views as others' personal opinions. My view of Jay is a TOTAL Dukie. An alum of undergraduate and law school, Duke player, Duke assistant coach. He is also very connected and affirmed by Coach K.
If you don't like it when he calls a game -- find a radio station calling the game.
To provide some food for thought -- lawyers are trained to mitigate risk, not maximize return. Jay's very overt stance to not be bias to Duke is in that training.
Cheez -- this is a funny (not laughing) thread.
timo, I get all of that and agree with most of it but when you have to go over the top to not show Duke bias and actually end up showing bias towards Duke's opponent...is that being professional? I love Bilas and enjoy listening to him talk away from the announcers table. However calling games has gotten to be more about his agendas with refs rather than the game itself. Which is sad because in sports nowadays we are getting more opinionated announcers who really love the sound of what they have to say. Many times while the game is going on and they not commenting on that action.
Yeah i am actually agreeing with you in my original post. I basically was saying that the Jay Bilas I listened to on the podcast with Redick, was not the same Bilas i heard during the game. The one that is fixated on talking about how great of a job the refs are doing and going by the letter of the law. He's extremely annoying. It is like listening to two different guys.
Completely. In the end, Bilas is part of the Duke family and he is okay with me, but I'd rather yell at Elmore than listen to Bilas call a Duke game.
wow, interesting take. I'd still rather take Bilas. I DESPISE Len Elmore and I"m ok saying that because he feels the same.
No question, but Elmore is real about it. Bilas having to go out of his way to not seem pro Duke is fake IMO. Not a huge fan of fake.
Only two I won't listen call a Duke game are Elmore and Bilas. I understand Bilas is a Dukie but I just don't like him. That monotone voice of his makes me cringe. I listen to the radio whenever either of those two have our games.
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I think you have to take into account the atmosphere of these two media broadcasts though. I think regardless of whichever views he's sharing, Bilas talking openly on a casual podcast would probably contrast a bit with the Bilas calling a game in which he's been employed to call.
I wonder where the O.P. is getting his info. guru gary-7 or doc steat perhaps.
Seriously 2 skerz 3 where did you hear this from. If it is true this might change the way I feel about Bilas. Do you have a link or an article about it. OFCIf a Duke player did what Josh Jackson did, it would be on every ESPN highlight.
Jay does harp on the fouls too much. He generally harps on something, especially the NCAA. Bugs me when he portrays the players as victims in regard to their participation in college basketball. I'm pretty much in line with most here: Overall, I still like him, and feel he represents Duke very well, but would prefer he not do Duke games.
Speaking of Maui-one of my favorite all time announcer digs was Majerus saying to Jay: Your so tight, you probably get out of the shower to take a leak. I think all of the other guys had on funky Hawaiian shirts and Jay had a Polo shirt on and Majerus was just beating up on Jay-in a funny and cool way, not being a prick.
Jay does harp on the fouls too much. He generally harps on something, especially the NCAA. Bugs me when he portrays the players as victims in regard to their participation in college basketball. I'm pretty much in line with most here: Overall, I still like him, and feel he represents Duke very well, but would prefer he not do Duke games.
Speaking of Maui-one of my favorite all time announcer digs was Majerus saying to Jay: Your so tight, you probably get out of the shower to take a leak. I think all of the other guys had on funky Hawaiian shirts and Jay had a Polo shirt on and Majerus was just beating up on Jay-in a funny and cool way, not being a prick.
Greenburg and Williams can take a long walk on a short peer also. I liked Al McGuire and Billy Pecker better than these no it alls of today. If Grayson Allen had slapped the ball out of a players hand, Jay and Gary 7 would still be talking about it. OFC.
unx fans , generally speaking , LIKE 'im. What does that tell ya? He never really bothered me until that afternoon he was on OTL and kissed Roy's ***. Williams had all those players return to serve as character witnesses. Jay said he believed Roy. That was pretty much it for me. Yeah , Bilas hates the NCAA ( Justifiably so. They suck. ) but he lets that animosity spill over into defending outrageously corrupt behavior. Re-watch that show sometime. When Jay says , "I believe Roy" he tilts his head back , nods some , closes his eyes and says it. Hope he doesn't play Poker because that's the worst "tell" I've ever seen. He'd go broke. He flat-out lied. Also , as the scandal has progressed , he's been on Twitter compounding his earlier error. IOW , #YouKnowHeKnow. I will say this for 'im. The Coach K impersonation is spot-on.
Thats the one thing he does well- the takeoff on K....Wasnt that his original gig after he briefly played pro ball-acting???? He did some bit role as an ailen in a movie....Yep, I am sure in fact....Wish he'd made it there instead, to be honest....lol...
And you're rite-UNC fans love him!!!
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Look I like Jay Bilas and I like his commentary and take on a lot of things related to CBB. But I do find him to be too much when calling Duke games. I know he says he doesn't do anything on purpose one way or the other- trying to be too unbiased or too biased, but he's human. I do think when calling our games he does try and make sure he's not being partial to Duke and it shows. Overall though he is a great ambassador for Duke and the OP is so far off base on how K feels about him, his statement belongs in the THR thread of ridiculousness.
Jay is a smart guy and he watched and heard enough from Dicky V's approach to know that wasn't the way he wanted to go. Vitale only wanted to express the values of K and the type of program Duke was and it just made everyone hate Duke worse. It isn't that Jay feels he, "already has Duke" as someone has mentioned...I think he honestly feels he is doing the program a service by not being a cheerleader.
He does go too far IMO. If there is a close call...the best approach he could take is to point out what the ref may have seen instead of trying to avoid taking Duke's side.
He does go too far IMO. If there is a close call...the best approach he could take is to point out what the ref may have seen instead of trying to avoid taking Duke's side.
Don't really pay much attention to the announcers to care all that much to be honest
Exactly. He's human and he reads message boards and social media. The casual fan knows he went to Duke (it's always mentioned). He's appealing to them because they think Duke gets away with everything and with a Duke guy calling a game, they assume he's pulling for Duke. Overall Jay is a good guy and maybe I wouldn't mind if I wasn't a Duke fan, but you know every U.K. yahoo is calling him a Duke homer on many sites.
I don't care to listen to Bilas call Duke games, but Greenburg is the worst. It seems like he always takes a slight jab at Duke every chance he gets.
No question-Greenberg despised coming to Cameron, and the memories of "Hickory-Dickery-Dockery!" Seldom if ever picks Duke to win a big heavyweight matchup on ESPN..
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Hope you guys don't mind a UK fan's view on this subject. If Jay is concerned about being perceived as professional and unbiased, he pretty much HAS to slant toward Dukes opponent . Cause , you know how fans are , lol . I really like Bilas but didn't agree with his defending of the UNC and UL scandals.
I personally never had a problem with Bilas but do see why some of you do. Maybe we don't pay enough attention to what he says about the game when he's not doing a Duke game or we are so focused about what he is saying about Duke that we are not paying attention to what he has to say about the other team. I've seen over at thr where some of the posters say he is too critical of unc. I've said it so many times that he is just doing his job. We have the best coach in the business in Bilas a Dukie and former player. I'm proud of that fact and have decided that this is the last post I'll will make about Jay Bilas and the way he does his job. OFC