The man hasnt done anything yet. He's had some good regular seasons but really hasnt done anything in the postseason. Gotta love the SEC quarterback doing some good stuff, but he needs to quit whining and just accept that in the league, unless youre Brett Favre, Tom Brady, or Peyton Manning, you dont get everything you want. He had a good thing in Denver, and I think he may have screwed that up. I hope he does well, but this may end up coming back to haunt him.
Jay Cutler=Big Baby
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NFL teams have a tough time even finding a serviceable quarterback. For Denver to piss off their first decent QB since John Elway is stupid on their part. BTW, Elway didn't go to the playoffs until his fourth season, and didn't win a Super Bowl until his 15th (and had Terrell Davis to hand it off to).
I'm with Cutler on this one too. I mean, I know if my job started looking for my replacement behind my back, I'd be a little pissed as well. But then again I am someone who hates the "Good Ol' Boy System" which McDaniels was obviously attempting to have there in Denver.
...they denied to him the fact that they'd entertained notions (whether serious or not) of trading him and were caught in a lie.
What I don't know is if the Broncos' attempts to placate Cutler afterwards were half-hearted or not.</p>
What I don't know is if the Broncos' attempts to placate Cutler afterwards were half-hearted or not.</p>
I just dont think Cutler should think he deserves special treatment. Just because he has a pro bowl or some pretty good season under his belt doesnt mean anything. Champ Bailey was traded after a pro bowl season. It happens, and although Jay is a good quarterback, if a new coach wants to go in a new direction, I think thats what his job title allows him to do. Now I agree that Josh McDaniel should have been in better contact with him. But Jay got his feelings hurt when he found out he might be traded, and I dont think he has the stature yet to be untouchable.
I started out on Cutler's side, but today's news in the Denver Post and other CO newspapers indicate Jay refused to return the phone calls of BOTH the owner, Bowlen, and the head coach not just once but for 10 days. That's pretty childish. You at least TALK about things which separate you, build bridges and not barriers. As an SEC fan I wanted Jay to make it big in Denver, but right now my opinion is let him go to Detroit with good riddance.
Jay is just acting like a kid now, which is why I say send him to Detroit, take at least one of their 1st round picks, and maybe grab a 3rd or 4th round also. Go draft Mark Sanchez, because I doubt Detroit gives them the overall number one. Take it on the chin for a few years because unless they get a free agent QB, they will probably have to stick with Simms. Get Sanchez ready just like they did Cutler, and go from there. If Cutler is "calling their bluff" he better watch what he wishes for. Jay Cutler to Detroit probably isnt that good for him. They dont have alot of good pieces there. Calvin Johnson is good, but their starting RB is a very young Kevin Smith and an injury prone Rudi Johnson. Unless they get a defense, Cutler is gonna be on a team that cant win.
...I'd think notification that there might be a trade going on and wanting to let him know about it with the proviso that it be kept strictly among Cutler, family, and agent would be a good thing. Other than that, I agree-- he's not untouchable. </p>
Im all for the Head Coach trading for whoever he wants, and doing whatever he wants, but at least be honest with the player.
He told Jay he was just listening to offers, but when the truth came out that McDaniels was the one initiating the talks and he later admitted that he wanted Cassel, well I don't blame Jay one bit for being pissed.
If you are going to pull the "Im the head coach and I'll do what I want" card, you at least better be man enough to tell the player "Your damn right Im trying to trade you", in this instance McDaniels got caught in a lie, and Jay wants out, and he is doing what he needs to do to get out of the situation.
The best part is that McDaniels has slit his own throat unless he cranks out some playoff victories.
If he doesn't get to the playoffs in the next two years, he is done.
He told Jay he was just listening to offers, but when the truth came out that McDaniels was the one initiating the talks and he later admitted that he wanted Cassel, well I don't blame Jay one bit for being pissed.
If you are going to pull the "Im the head coach and I'll do what I want" card, you at least better be man enough to tell the player "Your damn right Im trying to trade you", in this instance McDaniels got caught in a lie, and Jay wants out, and he is doing what he needs to do to get out of the situation.
The best part is that McDaniels has slit his own throat unless he cranks out some playoff victories.
If he doesn't get to the playoffs in the next two years, he is done.
My point is Jay is whining and Bowlen and McDaniels are both trying to make amends. At least TALK, for goodness sake. Don't burn your bridges. Both sides of the conflict act as if they graduated from the NIGYSOB School of Management ('now I got you, you S O B).
And I also think both Brett and Jay got bad advice from their Mississippi agent Bus Cook.
And I also think both Brett and Jay got bad advice from their Mississippi agent Bus Cook.
If you are Cutler, how do you trust anything the man says.
He tells the public that you are his man, but in a meeting he tells you that this is a business and he could trade you if he wants to.
After being lied to I don't think Cutler owes him ****. He wants out, and he is doing what he has to in order to get out.
If Jay gets traded then he got great advice from Cook, because he wanted out and Cook made that happen.
He tells the public that you are his man, but in a meeting he tells you that this is a business and he could trade you if he wants to.
After being lied to I don't think Cutler owes him ****. He wants out, and he is doing what he has to in order to get out.
If Jay gets traded then he got great advice from Cook, because he wanted out and Cook made that happen.
LawDog, you make a good point. I have simply worked most of my life in conflict resolution, and I don't think Cutler serves himself in the long term by leaving and Denver is certainly not going to be a better team without their franchise quarterback. If I had been Cutler, Cook, Bowlen, or McDaniels I would have worked much harder to iron this out.
And Cutler certainly should have had the decency to return his boss's phone calls.
Probably now, though, too much has happened, too much has been said, and too much has been written. I hate it for all parties.
And Cutler certainly should have had the decency to return his boss's phone calls.
Probably now, though, too much has happened, too much has been said, and too much has been written. I hate it for all parties.