Jeezz.. Corruption in Bowl Games..

[57stratdawg]

I'm sorry if this is German's, but I dont remember it being discussed. This sheds some light on why there is so much resistance to a playoff system.

This is stolen from a rival's national board. SI Article on Bowl Corruption

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<font size="2">SI examined tax records and it turns out nearly every
bowl game costs teams money in the end. Also, unlike NFL Playoffs where
the teams keep all of the money, colleges/conferences get only about
half of the money bowl games make. So why do bowl games exist if they
financially screw over the universities? Because bowl committees
actually pay off coaches, athletic directors, politicians, and
university presidents. Check it out:

* The CEO for the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl made $377,475 in 2009.

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The CEO for the Fiesta Bowl pocketed $607,500 in 2007 and three times
took out no-interest loans from the Fiesta Bowl operating budget (which
he has since paid back)

* That Fiesta Bowl has $37,000,000 in
assets and turned a $11,700,000 profit that season. None of that went
to taxes since bowl games get tax exempt status. However 3 bowls are
under federal investigation for "excessive compensation."

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That Fiesta Bowl CEO who pays himself more than almost every surgeon at
your local hospital to put on a single football game also required his
bowl employees to donate parts of their own salaries to a certain
Arizona political candidates, then expect to be reimbursed for it as
merit pay. That's against state AND federal law. An investigation is
ongoing.

* Same Fiesta Bowl CEO spent $4,000,000 that season to
wine, dine, and pay off coaches, AD's, university presidents, and
politicians.

* Everyone knows that bowls require schools to buy a
ton of tickets, and if the schools can't resell the tickets to their
fans, oh well. And most can't sell them. VaTech lost $1,770,000 in
unsold tickets alone for the 2009 Orange Bowl. Ohio State ate
$1,010,000 in unsold tickets for the 2009 Fiesta Bowl. They lost
$79,597 for going to that BCS bowl when all was said and done since they
didn't get to keep the $18.5 million payout; that went to the Big Ten
to be divided between all 11 conference members evenly.

* The bowls pay the university presidents and politicians (plus coaches and AD's)
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The university presidents pay their Athletic Directors a bonus if the
football team goes to a bowl (usually 1 month's salary, although
Oregon's AD gets an extra $50,000 and Kentucky's gets an extra $30,000)
* The AD's pay the coaches similar bonuses for going to a bowl

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How much do AD's and coaches like the bonuses, gifts and complimentary
vacations courtesy of bowl CEOs? "A few years ago our ADs came to me and
said, 'You've got to start some bowls,' " Mountain West commissioner
Craig Thompson says. "I said, '[Your schools] will lose money.' They
[each] said, 'I don't care.' "

* How about this for a slap in the
face: In 2008 the Outback Bowl asked Iowa's band to be the halftime
entertainment and Iowa accepted. How does the Outback Bowl CEO thank
those band kids? Charges them each $65 to be in the stadium. It costed
the university $22,490. But what do Iowa's AD, coach, and president
care? These bowl CEO's are paying them off to keep the bowl system
going.

Starting to see why there's still no playoff? If the NCAA
has a selection committee seeding teams for playoff games, all the
sudden these Bowl CEO's go from earning the easiest $500,000 paycheck in
human history to being unemployed. And with no bowl committees, the
university presidents, athletic directors, coaches, politicians don't
get treated to payoffs, bonuses, lavish golf outings, cruises, and
vacations.

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[FlabLoser]

Starting to see why there's still no playoff? If the NCAA
has a selection committee seeding teams for playoff games, all the
sudden these Bowl CEO's go from earning the easiest $500,000 paycheck in
human history to being unemployed. And with no bowl committees, the
university presidents, athletic directors, coaches, politicians don't
get treated to payoffs, bonuses, lavish golf outings, cruises, and
vacations.

I wish people would stop seeing it like that. Bowl's won't disappear. Instead, the xyz bowl would become Game b of the quaterfinal round. Hell, you would still call it the xyz bowl.

 

[bsp34]

I wish people would stop seeing it like that. Bowl's won't disappear. Instead, the xyz bowl would become Game b of the quaterfinal round. Hell, you would still call it the xyz bowl.

and that's where the big compromise comes in. you can keep your bowls, but have them be playoff games.

 

[youngster]

if bowl games become the playoff system, won't the national champion be a 4-bowl game winner? That would not seem right, would it?

 

[FlabLoser]

Is it not right that the NCAA basketball champ has won so many tournament games?

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

That Fiesta Bowl has $37,000,000 in assets and turned a $11,700,000 profit that season. None of that went to taxes since bowl games get tax exempt status.

Not only is the bowl system as corrupt as the Auburn football program, the bowl systemdoesn't even pay taxes.

Keep this in mind next time these hypocrites trot out their patriotism smack.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

However, bowl games would definitely continue to exist with a playoff in place, so there's no worry.

 

[Requiem For A Dawg]

nm

 

[Goat Holder II]

but after reading that, it's tough to argue against a playoff. Funny how the university presidents scream about the integrities of the student athlete and the institution, but that theory holds no water because other NCAA divisions have playoffs. Now we see the bottom line. The bowls make too much money, and everybody's pocket gets padded.

 

[57stratdawg]

The fear is though that if there is a +1 system, they won't have to go through this payoff/courting system of colleges they currently go through. If the teams have a much more structured way of getting into those bowls (a 4 team playoff), there won't be so much "deal making" going on behind the scenes.

Think about yesterday. We heard we were going to get bumped out of the ChickFila bowl, unless the Gator Bowl, SEC, and MSU could make a deal. Wouldn't you be kind of curious what "the deal" was?

 

[Dawgzilla]

No, I am not some purist arguing against neutral site games. You simply cannot expect fans to travel to 3 or 4 straight games like that. They already have a tough time travelling to both a conference championship game AND a BCS Bowl. Look at the attendance numbers. 4 straight weeks of travelling would be a nightmare for the schools and the fans.

And before anyone tries to compare basketball, the basketball games are played in much smaller arenas, and they sell tickets to fans from 4 schools instead of just 2 (8 schools for the first two rounds).

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=Agt5fzjsYOa4BzUpBEc1y8EcvrYF?slug=dw-playoff120610

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</div><div>Instead of finishing Christmas shopping next weekend, you could have these games (even some played Thursday and Friday night):</div><div>FIU @Auburn</div><div>The other MSU @ Arkansas</div><div>Nevada @ Wisconsin</div><div>UCF @ Stanford</div><div>Miami OH @ Oregon</div><div>LSU @ Oklahoma</div><div>VT @ OSU</div><div>UConn @ TCU</div><div>
</div><div>And you still have seven more playoff games after this round, most of them better than these games. This would all be starting in just 10 days. Bowl season doesn't even get interesting for at least 3 more weeks.</div>