Jerimiah Donati

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I think Drinkwitz would be the kind of coach we need. Someone who does more with less. I think we should go after Clark Lea. They play very dissaplined football. Hes got their guys playing ball control. Beamers offense is more opportunitsic in nature. We are always trying to score in bunches so the defense has to be ok with being on the field for 40 plus plays. Vandys offense gives the defense rest, we do the exact opposite.
 

Psycock

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Look I`m as down as anybody. But it can be done. People who are saying it can`t would have said the exact same thing about Indiana, Ga. Tech, Vandy, others just a few yrs. ago. I don`t think Dabo is a good coach but he is - or was - a good CEO. I don`t know how good a coach Shane is but I don`t think firing him is the answer. I think we need a very high powered offensive OC to come in and give the offense a spark. Hire the best available at whatever the cost. Elliott is a good OL coach so I don`t think we need to change that. For a long time I think not being able to keep our quality assistants has hurt us badly. Ellis Johnson to Southern Miss with the defense we had? Don`t know if that was delusions of grandeur or a conflict with SOS or something else. Lembo leaving obviously hurt likely - he was the best, hard to replace the best. Loggains? Don`t know how good he is but our offense was much better - maybe some of it was Kitchens? We need to keep quality coaches when we get them. Hopefully Donati can help with that but no time to pull money if you are a big donor - we need more if we want to at least try to keep up.
 
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Lurker123

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I think Drinkwitz would be the kind of coach we need. Someone who does more with less. I think we should go after Clark Lea. They play very dissaplined football. Hes got their guys playing ball control. Beamers offense is more opportunitsic in nature. We are always trying to score in bunches so the defense has to be ok with being on the field for 40 plus plays. Vandys offense gives the defense rest, we do the exact opposite.

Instead of Lea or Drinkwitz, both of whom are probably passed us for prospects, we should ask ourselves where they came from BEFORE their current stops.

Where are mid level teams getting coaches that ultimately become successful?

Probably not coaches who were just fired or who are position coaches.
 

Statelinecock

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Beamer peaked last season. Fact is he couldn't keep up the momentum. His main job was to hire effective coordinators and coaches to fit his personnel. He couldn't do that and any shred of momentum he had coming into this season is forever gone. Coaches dont recover when their program goes entirely off the tracks in their 5th season. Thats when they've either got it running great or proving their inability to do that is showing for all to see. I was thinking the offense going into this season would be the best we ever saw. Instead it looks like the offense Lou Holtz had his 1st season. Beamer has reached that moment and it won't get better. He'll get another year but we all know what will happen before the first kickoff before the 26 season.
 

SouthernBelly

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I may have missed it, but has Donati come out and said he supports Beamer and will do everything he can to help him be successful - or something similar?

Don't think he has and I find that unusual when there is so much criticism right now.

This is probably not the year to hire a new coach with so many vacancies, but maybe he is polling donors to find out how much support he would have for a coaching change.
The criticism is vocal in places like this, but who knows what it is where it matters. Still not seeing much in the way of media and talks of hot seat. I don't look at that much anyhow so maybe it does exist.

But if he does come out with that line then we'll know its over for Beamer.
 

Legal_fowl

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The criticism is vocal in places like this, but who knows what it is where it matters. Still not seeing much in the way of media and talks of hot seat. I don't look at that much anyhow so maybe it does exist.

But if he does come out with that line then we'll know its over for Beamer.
Its all over X from podcasters. In my feed it was every other post. Whether that counts as criticism I don't know.
 

SouthernBelly

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Yes, I agree. But he hasn't proven yet that he can win a championship. You would have expected that to happen at Southern Cal because of their wherewithal, but he didn't come close.
So Cal finished first in the divison his second season but due to NCAA sanctions wasn't eligible for post season. So no Pac-12 title game appearance and no bowl. We don't know that he could not have won it. It can be argued they got impatient with him. Additionally, he won a couple CUSA titles at FAU. He's had the best strech of football in their short history.

Gamecocks should have never extened Muschamp after 2018, dumped him after 2019 and gone after Kiffin.
 

KingWard

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So Cal finished first in the divison his second season but due to NCAA sanctions wasn't eligible for post season. So no Pac-12 title game appearance and no bowl. We don't know that he could not have won it. It can be argued they got impatient with him. Additionally, he won a couple CUSA titles at FAU. He's had the best strech of football in their short history.

Gamecocks should have never extened Muschamp after 2018, dumped him after 2019 and gone after Kiffin.
Looking at his year to year at Southern Cal, I'm thinking no. There's a reason it didn't last.
 

SouthernBelly

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Looking at his year to year at Southern Cal, I'm thinking no. There's a reason it didn't last.
Sure there is a reason they fired him, they didn't think he was winning enough. But, it can still be argued they were impatient, but it's admittedly speculative. I was just pointing out that he did indeed come close at So Cal and that he has won championships. "A championship" is broad so I don't know if you only mean Natty. His team wasn't permitted to claim the division title even though they won it so he got as close as he could to playing for a conference championship there. He won two conference championships at FAU.
 

KingWard

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Sure there is a reason they fired him, they didn't think he was winning enough. But, it can still be argued they were impatient, but it's admittedly speculative. But your point was he never came close at So Cal and he hasn't proven that he can win a championship. "A championship" is broad. His team wasn't permitted to claim the division title even though the won it so he got as close as he could to playing for a conference championship there. He won two conference championships at FAU.
So, in perpetuity he hasn't and apparently isn't going to win one at Southern Cal. It was evident that, deep in his tenure there, it was determined by his bosses that he wasn't going to win one - or they wouldn't have fired him. Championships at a place like FIU are the kind of thing that ADs and SIDs seize on to justify hiring an unproven guy, technical but not substantive achievements only a little more impressive than winning championships at Charleston Southern. But yes, nominal conference championsips, I'll grant you.
 
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