JJustice ... road work... $1.4B & $1.5B...

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CHARLESTON, W.Va.— Gov. Jim Justice’s highway construction plan includes nearly $3 billion in projects that the governor said Wednesday would create more than 25,000 jobs.

The work would be paid for with bonds financed by two key sources; $33 million a year gained by raising the annual vehicle registration fee from $30 to $50 and increasing the tolls on the West Virginia Turnpike by $1.00. Gov. Justice also proposes a 10-cent increase in the gasoline excise tax which is currently 20.5 cents a gallon and maximizing the Garvee bond option for highway work.

MORE See Justice road project list Phase 1

Sixteen specific highway projects along with dozens of other bridge and road safety improvements can be completed in the next 2-4 years, according to state Transportation Secretary Tom Smith. The Phase-1 work totals $1.4 billion.

Of the specific projects, the most expensive are the Interstate 64 widening project in Putnam County ($170m), which includes a new bridge across the Kanawha River near Nitro, and a four-lane highway in Wayne County from the Pritchard Intermodal Facility to I-64 near Huntington ($150m).

The Phase 1 projects cover 13 different counties. The Phase 2 projects total $1.5 billion covering projects more than a dozen counties. Monongalia County would receive funding for five separate projects according to the Phase 2 list.

MORE See Justice road project list Phase 2

Del. Marty Gearheart (R-Mercer) a long opponent of tolls on the Turnpike called the plan “ludicrous”

“It’s a basic fact of economics that the more you tax something the less activity you get,” Gearheart said. “So the more that you tax the highways the less the people are, in fact, going to want to travel on them.”

But Senate President Mitch Carmichael (R-Jackson) called Justice’s plan a “good idea” because residents will have a chance to vote themselves on a bond issue that would be financed by the increased taxes and fees.

Senator Glenn Jeffries (D-Putnam), who owns a construction business, is pleased with what Justice said.

“It automatically puts people to work. It really excited me. I wanted to stand up and applaud him when he said 48,000 jobs. It is exciting and it’s an exciting time,” Jeffries said.

As mentioned, Monongalia County would benefit greatly from projects listed in both Phase 1 and Phase 2. Del. Joe Statler (R-Monongalia) said he believes residents would be willing to pay more for new roads.

“We can’t clearly buy our way out of this–it would take too long,” Statler said. “If we are going to set this state up for business we’ve got to do something big, something dramatic. A half-billion dollar bond or a billion dollar bond that he wants to go out there on roads, I can support it.”

The governor also mentioned a possible plan that would allow residents to pay an $8 annual fee to the DMV in order to drive for free on the West Virginia Turnpike.
 
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dave

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I like that Justice has big plans and I think some of that could work. Raising the toll is difficult because the turnoike toll money doesnt go to the state. Registration fee increase is a bit much but the gas tax is needed.
 

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I like that Justice has big plans and I think some of that could work. Raising the toll is difficult because the turnoike toll money doesnt go to the state. Registration fee increase is a bit much but the gas tax is needed.
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I like that Justice has big plans and I think some of that could work. Raising the toll is difficult because the turnoike toll money doesnt go to the state. Registration fee increase is a bit much but the gas tax is needed.

Our infrastructure definitely needs work ... and so do the people. I didn't read it all, but I hope that part of it is the completion of the corridor to VA. I know that it's mostly done already in so much as people in VA can easily get to Davis and Thomas, but I'd like to see it completed all the way through.

However, I also saw where he said he wanted to raise business taxes. Part of the infrastructure improvements is to attract businesses, but then you push them away with higher taxes. I also find it a bit hypocritical that a guy that didn't pay his business taxes wants to raise them.

So ... OK ... one good idea, one not so good idea. But we'll see how it turns out.
 

dave

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Our infrastructure definitely needs work ... and so do the people. I didn't read it all, but I hope that part of it is the completion of the corridor to VA. I know that it's mostly done already in so much as people in VA can easily get to Davis and Thomas, but I'd like to see it completed all the way through.

However, I also saw where he said he wanted to raise business taxes. Part of the infrastructure improvements is to attract businesses, but then you push them away with higher taxes. I also find it a bit hypocritical that a guy that didn't pay his business taxes wants to raise them.

So ... OK ... one good idea, one not so good idea. But we'll see how it turns out.
I don't think the business taxes are going to cut it in the legislature. The odd thing about his speech was all the rhetoric that came from the governors office all weekend was to expect massive budget cut proposals in the range of 300-600 million and then when he announced his plan it was 47 million in cuts and 450 million in new taxes revenue. Could just be the area for negotiation. There is no way the legislature can stop repaying the road fund, add new tolls and raise business taxes like suggested. I guess we will see where this goes.
 

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I don't think the business taxes are going to cut it in the legislature. The odd thing about his speech was all the rhetoric that came from the governors office all weekend was to expect massive budget cut proposals in the range of 300-600 million and then when he announced his plan it was 47 million in cuts and 450 million in new taxes revenue. Could just be the area for negotiation. There is no way the legislature can stop repaying the road fund, add new tolls and raise business taxes like suggested. I guess we will see where this goes.

I have a feeling we're in for a bumpy ride, but I hope we end up in the right direction
 

dave

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I have a feeling we're in for a bumpy ride, but I hope we end up in the right direction
Well, the state can't just tax people without legislation, and they can't spend money without revenue so there will either be some sort of agreement or a lot of lost services on the state level. The best option would be to generate 500 million in new taxes via business and income.....that is obviously an unknown.
 

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Our infrastructure definitely needs work ... and so do the people. I didn't read it all, but I hope that part of it is the completion of the corridor to VA. I know that it's mostly done already in so much as people in VA can easily get to Davis and Thomas, but I'd like to see it completed all the way through.

However, I also saw where he said he wanted to raise business taxes. Part of the infrastructure improvements is to attract businesses, but then you push them away with higher taxes. I also find it a bit hypocritical that a guy that didn't pay his business taxes wants to raise them.

So ... OK ... one good idea, one not so good idea. But we'll see how it turns out.

VA won't touch corridor H until its complete in WV.
 

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Our infrastructure definitely needs work ... and so do the people. I didn't read it all, but I hope that part of it is the completion of the corridor to VA. I know that it's mostly done already in so much as people in VA can easily get to Davis and Thomas, but I'd like to see it completed all the way through.

However, I also saw where he said he wanted to raise business taxes. Part of the infrastructure improvements is to attract businesses, but then you push them away with higher taxes. I also find it a bit hypocritical that a guy that didn't pay his business taxes wants to raise them.

So ... OK ... one good idea, one not so good idea. But we'll see how it turns out.
I'm not exactly arguing for a tax increase, but we've slashed business income taxes for years and we don't have much to show for it. Low taxes can be attractive to bringing in new companies/industries, but so can new infrastructure, educated populace, etc.
 

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Well, the state can't just tax people without legislation, and they can't spend money without revenue so there will either be some sort of agreement or a lot of lost services on the state level. The best option would be to generate 500 million in new taxes via business and income.....that is obviously an unknown.

It's time this state re-think it's balanced budget requirement.
 

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They have zero incentive to do so. I was under the impression that they are obligated to do so however once H is completed in WV.
That may be possible, but I doubt they will be in an hurry. The sections finished are really great as is. I stayed a night in Canaan before heading to the DC area last summer and took the Corridor.
 

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Two things:

  1. I didn't think there was enough land to put a roundabout near the airport on the Mileground?
  2. New connector to I-79 = new bridge from Patteson over the river and connect into the new I-79 access?
 

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That may be possible, but I doubt they will be in an hurry. The sections finished are really great as is. I stayed a night in Canaan before heading to the DC area last summer and took the Corridor.

No, from what I understand they'll drag their feet as long as possible. Forcing us to go through Wardensville and Winchester. It used to take us 3 hours to get to Canaan, now I can get there in 2, 45 minutes of which is the travel to Wardensville.

I would love to be able to get then to Charleston.
 

bornaneer

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Because they were given federal dollars to do it.
One argument is the need to provide easy access to points west from the DC metro areas in the event of a major evacuation need. The two lane cowpath from Interstate 66 to the Corridor H connection at Wardensville is a problem.
 

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Because they were given federal dollars to do it.

One argument is the need to provide easy access to points west from the DC metro areas in the event of a major evacuation need. The two lane cowpath from Interstate 66 to the Corridor H connection at Wardensville is a problem.
Good to hear. The people in Canaan aren't as optimistic, but that's just in their DNA.
 

dave

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Good to hear. The people in Canaan aren't as optimistic, but that's just in their DNA.
I am not saying I am optimistic. Virginia loves to spend road money in the DC area and Richmond through Norfolk.
 

bornaneer

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I am not saying I am optimistic. Virginia loves to spend road money in the DC area and Richmond through Norfolk.
Republican Frank Wolf was the problem. He is the one that blocked the connection to 66 over all the years. He retired in 2015. Republican Barbara Comstock won Wolf's House seat in 2016.