Joel Klatt gives 4 names for PSU HC
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And I’d miss my guess if Day wasn’t still making most of the calls.
What has Hartline shown as an OC that makes people think he can run a program like Penn State?
What had Lanning or Smart shown prior to their current positions? High risk high reward hire. Which was always going to be the case.
There are no realistic candidates, outside of maybe Cignetti, with a demonstrated ceiling higher than Franklin and floor of 10+ wins. We aren't hiring Saban or Urban.
If you need a candidate who has shown you they can run a program, you're advocating for playing it safe.
Or Day for that matter? I don't necessarily think we should limit to only HCs.
I do think need to stop looking at Franklin's floor as 10 wins. Certainly was not going to be the case this year, and wasn't in 20 (I know, Covid, still had a losing record) or 2021 either. As I said in a thread 3 weeks ago, the longer he went without winning the biggest games, the lesser likelihood he could keep 10 wins as a floor. Simply because you have to be PERFECT the other 10 to do so, and even last year there were a few games that could have made it an 8-4 year. Those were bound to even out, and boy have they ever.
I think Elko is a really good coach but not overcoming the oil $
"We'll be explosive on offense n'at. On defense, we will dictate play to the opponent n'at. Yinz'll be prahd of us each and every week"
Dabo is an interesting case study. While his teams won two titles, he had the benefit competing in a hollowed-out ACC at the time. He wound up with back-to-back generational QBs which helped too.
I wonder if Dabo is the absolute best version of Franklin in terms of style and approach? He's clearly more accomplished but the tendencies and overall program administration philosophy seems very similar to James.
Yeah whatever happened to those posters who claimed Kraft needed to fire Franklin to “save” the recruits? Last I checked they are recommitting like rats jumping from a sinking ship. But hey not to worry Kraft will simply get a championship roster by hitting the portal hard.
I’m okay with that. Time to think outside of the box instead of recycling the same retreads.
Agree - both are done with coaching and have said so. Urban has said on multiple occasions over the years that his two dream schools were OSU and Notre Dame - he's not going to ND. Keep in mind, he turned down that monster-unbelievable Texas offer after he left OSU and - being in Texas - he wouldn't even have to leave that state when recruiting top HS talent.
So now 7 years later people SOME people think we have a shot at both Urban and Saban......who probably had the greatest run in CF history with Alabama. Why would he risk that by returning to CF. Saban will be 74 in a few days.
It's going to be Rhule with Cignetti an outside possibility
Meyer isn’t coming out of retirement to coach anywhere. People forget that he was initially interested in Penn State but balked due to the pending sanctions.
Cignetti brought 9 key players from James Madison that outperformed their recruiting rankings. It's a great story but the chances of repeating something like that are a long shot. And remember Indiana lost to their only two tough opponents last year. This year they've been successful because they spent a lot of money to get 4* QB Fernando Mendoza in the portal.
How many Iowa State players would follow Matt Campbell to PSU? We might have a better chance of Brian Hartline bringing some of OSU's second teamers that he recruited.
Yep. That's the risk with Cignetti. You go all in at the high point and it turns out not to be sustainable. In fairness, that will always be a risk with an established coach. This is why I like Urban...he's done it multiple times across different programs and geographic regions.
The more I think about this, the more I wonder if Kraft will look to manage downside risk. That could mean hiring a coordinator from a top program vs. committing another huge contract to an established coach who may not work out.
This is an area Franklin failed. He should have encouraged Drew to go pro last year after the playoff and picked a portal QB that fit exactly what Kotelnicki wanted to run for this all in season. Day looked at his roster and saw McCord was a bottle neck, encouraged him to leave and went out and got his guy and the rest is history. Same mistake sticking with Clifford for too long.
Oregon has stayed at the top with transfer QBs. Oklahoma's success was sustained with portal QBs.
Go down their roster and compare the two. Not even close to what PSU brought back this year. Not in NIL and not in star ratings
All this hate for Urban Meyer: Who was hand picked by Joe Paterno to succeed him.
I'll take Joe's word over y'all. Sorry. Hire Urban Meyer.
I'll take Joe's word over y'all. Sorry. Hire Urban Meyer.
Has anyone considered the fact that this job isn’t as coveted as it’s being pushed by the fan base? It’s somewhere between a top 8-15 job, the next coach isn’t going to get 12 years to get it right. Krafts job is dependent on bringing a national championship to state college, something that has not happened in 39 years. This is a program that has only won the big ten 4 times in 32 years. If you were the a high profile HC would you want to take the risk of coming to a program where expectations and reality don’t currently match. Perhaps they’ll end up setting for Rhule. There are bigger voices behind the scenes that have a say. Whoever comes will have what 3-4 years to turn a 13-3 program on a down year into a national champion not exactly a reassuring situation to inherit especially if you’re someone sitting comfortable like Eli Drinkawitz or Cignitti.
It started with the media's moniker " Big Game James " not the PSU fans , the press did the same to Joe when he lost to
Alabama in "78", it took 4 more years in a non NIL era. The Big Game James got into his head along with his players. PSU
fans mostly were good with CJF , until UCLA & NW.
Perhaps.... but don't you think a "top 8" job would have lots of interested parties? Maybe the expectations-reality gap you noted is due in large part TO the prior coach?
You know why they will want to come here - $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Penn State is absolutely a top, top job. It has all needed to win, including a leadership emphasis for the first time in a long time.
The Florida job will be open soon. How is Penn State a better opportunity than Florida?