John Doc Holliday Marshall 10-4, 13-1, 9-3 last 3 years

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Or Jeff Brohn Western Kentucky 8-5, and 10-2 last 2 years. They are proven winners better than Golden or Mario. I believe both use a spread offense while Mario and Golden would use the Pro Set offense.
 
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RutgHoops

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Holliday is another former Urban assistant. The majority seem to win when they get their own program. Mullen, Strong, Holliday, Gary Andersen, Kyle Whittingham, Tom Herman.....saw a stat this morning that FIVE former Urban Meyer assistants had their team in the Top 25 at one point in 2014. That is quite remarkable.

I think I'd take Ash over Holliday, but the more I read about this I want a former Urban guy running our program.
 

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StyleKnight

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Neither of those guys have real ties to the northeast. I prefer someone with either OC/DC experience and ties to the northeast. If there are no ties to the northeast I'll take ties to the Midwest or B1G.
 
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Doc is waiting for Holgerson to get the ax next season. Don't think he's ever willingly set foot outside of West Virginia
 

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Holliday is another former Urban assistant. The majority seem to win when they get their own program. Mullen, Strong, Holliday, Gary Andersen, Kyle Whittingham, Tom Herman.....saw a stat this morning that FIVE former Urban Meyer assistants had their team in the Top 25 at one point in 2014. That is quite remarkable.

I think I'd take Ash over Holliday, but the more I read about this I want a former Urban guy running our program.
Why would you take an unproven coach over a proven one?
 

RutgHoops

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Why would you take an unproven coach over a proven one?

Holliday is 58, is all about West Virginia and there is some distance between him and Urban (coached under Urban at Fla. in '05-'07). Ash is younger, and still on that staff so he may have more "stain". But i do think Doc is a really good HC.
 

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Neither of those guys have real ties to the northeast. I prefer someone with either OC/DC experience and ties to the northeast. If there are no ties to the northeast I'll take ties to the Midwest or B1G.

I think that "ties to the Northeast" thing is overrated. If you can coach, you can coach anywhere. If you can connect with kids and high school coaches and sell them on your program, you can recruit. There are numerous examples where coaches took a job where they were a stranger in a strange land and made it work.

But that does depend on the coach wanting to make the move, and in the case of Holliday I can't see it ever happening.
 

StyleKnight

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I think that "ties to the Northeast" thing is overrated. If you can coach, you can coach anywhere. If you can connect with kids and high school coaches and sell them on your program, you can recruit. There are numerous examples where coaches took a job where they were a stranger in a strange land and made it work.

But that does depend on the coach wanting to make the move, and in the case of Holliday I can't see it ever happening.
Not saying it can't work. It's more dealing with the politics in the state and the administration at Rutgers. I'm not worried about connecting with teenagers.