John Kasich: Obamacare repeal was "a stupid promise" by GOP

[bamaEER]

Glad somebody is finally being honest....

Republican presidential candidate and Ohio Gov. John Kasich is deriding his party's 2014 pledge to repeal the Affordable Care Act, President Obama's landmark healthcare overhaul, as a "big joke" and a "stupid promise."

"You've been supporting conservative candidates," Kasich said Tuesday in comments on a Wisconsin radio talk show, first reported by BuzzFeed News. "They told you in 2014 that they were going to repeal Obamacare. Do you realize, that's just--that's a big joke?"

On "The Jay Weber Show," the talk show host agreed, saying that he believed at the time that it was a Republican "fallacy."

"It got all these conservatives all stirred up and angry because they didn't keep their word," Kasich said. "I mean, what a stupid promise."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-kasich-obamacare-repeal-was-a-stupid-promise-by-gop-election-2016/

 

[Airport]

Glad somebody is finally being honest....

Republican presidential candidate and Ohio Gov. John Kasich is deriding his party's 2014 pledge to repeal the Affordable Care Act, President Obama's landmark healthcare overhaul, as a "big joke" and a "stupid promise."

"You've been supporting conservative candidates," Kasich said Tuesday in comments on a Wisconsin radio talk show, first reported by BuzzFeed News. "They told you in 2014 that they were going to repeal Obamacare. Do you realize, that's just--that's a big joke?"

On "The Jay Weber Show," the talk show host agreed, saying that he believed at the time that it was a Republican "fallacy."

"It got all these conservatives all stirred up and angry because they didn't keep their word," Kasich said. "I mean, what a stupid promise."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-kasich-obamacare-repeal-was-a-stupid-promise-by-gop-election-2016/

If he thinks that's the only reason that conservatives are "Stirred up" he's entirely wrong. But it did lead to getting the House and senate back into the GOP's hands. Kasich needs to remember that was the key. most Americans realize what a bad thing Govt mandated healthcare is. The American people have spoken petty loudly since. It will be up to the GOP to nominate a candidate that can beat Hilliary. Of course, GOP has to defend 13 senate seats which will be a tall order too.

 

[WVUBRU]

Glad somebody is finally being honest....

Republican presidential candidate and Ohio Gov. John Kasich is deriding his party's 2014 pledge to repeal the Affordable Care Act, President Obama's landmark healthcare overhaul, as a "big joke" and a "stupid promise."

"You've been supporting conservative candidates," Kasich said Tuesday in comments on a Wisconsin radio talk show, first reported by BuzzFeed News. "They told you in 2014 that they were going to repeal Obamacare. Do you realize, that's just--that's a big joke?"

On "The Jay Weber Show," the talk show host agreed, saying that he believed at the time that it was a Republican "fallacy."

"It got all these conservatives all stirred up and angry because they didn't keep their word," Kasich said. "I mean, what a stupid promise."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-kasich-obamacare-repeal-was-a-stupid-promise-by-gop-election-2016/

Kasich is being honest with this comment and others which appears to be the wrong thing to say to his base.

 

[bamaEER]

Kasich is being honest with this comment and others which appears to be the wrong thing to say to his base.

This is one reason I really like Kasich. Cruz et al. push effigy-burning campaigns to destroy everything that the dems have done, but it's all for show and all about boosting the image of the GOP. They come up short with selling their own platform, so their big play is always tarnish the dems platform.

Glad to see a class act like Kasich rise above all that.

 

[CAJUNEER_rivals]

This is one reason I really like Kasich. Cruz et al. push effigy-burning campaigns to destroy everything that the dems have done, but it's all for show and all about boosting the image of the GOP. They come up short with selling their own platform, so their big play is always tarnish the dems platform.

Glad to see a class act like Kasich rise above all that.

It won't help him in the GOP primary. It would help him should he get the nomination.

 

[mule_eer]

This is one reason I really like Kasich. Cruz et al. push effigy-burning campaigns to destroy everything that the dems have done, but it's all for show and all about boosting the image of the GOP. They come up short with selling their own platform, so their big play is always tarnish the dems platform.

Glad to see a class act like Kasich rise above all that.

I watched the town halls in Wisconsin. Cruz did really well in that environment. He came off as really personable and funny at times. He also talked around several questions and played a little loose with facts. He did well there though. Trump was Trump. That doesn't change. Kasich can come off as kind of gruff, and at times he did that in the town hall. It felt a little like he was almost lecturing the first person who asked a question. I thought he answered it well, and he stayed on topic. He just came off a little stern. He did loosen up as the town hall went on. He keeps making points about being realistic and doing things to put us on the right path that might not be popular at first blush. That's a good and honest point, but your audience has to be willing to hear it. I think some are, but a lot of people just want to hear empty promises even if they know they aren't based in reality. That's true in both parties.

 

[mneilmont]

but it's all for show

Do you really think so? Does the majority of people like or dislike Obamacare? It was sold as insurance for all at a cheaper cost. There are still 40 million uninsured. Did everyone keep their own Dr? Has it impacted employment in a negative way? How about those who have their working hours reduced below 40/week?

Is all the complaining about Obamacare really just show? No one really believed what they were saying. Has total impact been felt yet? Is cost really going up as has been suggested. What happens if unions feel total impact of Obamacare? What does CBO really predict going forward?

I will be interested to see if Democrats remain in lock-step in support of keeping Obamacare as it is now being implemented. We can see if everything the pols did was just for show.

 

[bamaEER]

Do you really think so? Does the majority of people like or dislike Obamacare? It was sold as insurance for all at a cheaper cost. There are still 40 million uninsured. Did everyone keep their own Dr? Has it impacted employment in a negative way? How about those who have their working hours reduced below 40/week?

Is all the complaining about Obamacare really just show? No one really believed what they were saying. Has total impact been felt yet? Is cost really going up as has been suggested. What happens if unions feel total impact of Obamacare? What does CBO really predict going forward?

I will be interested to see if Democrats remain in lock-step in support of keeping Obamacare as it is now being implemented. We can see if everything the pols did was just for show.

Yes. Kasich just admitted it. Does ACA have problems? Lots, but they can be dealt with and it was intended to make insurance costs cheaper in the long term. But rather than trying to fix it, the GOP propped it up on a stick, lit it on fire, and paraded it through the village for all to see. And now guys like Kasich are coming clean.

 

[mule_eer]

Yes. Kasich just admitted it. Does ACA have problems? Lots, but they can be dealt with and it was intended to make insurance costs cheaper in the long term. But rather than trying to fix it, the GOP propped it up on a stick, lit it on fire, and paraded it through the village for all to see. And now guys like Kasich are coming clean.

Kasich is making his case for the general right now. He's showing his conservative roots, but also talking logically about how to get things done as president. He's playing to the independents and the moderate GOP, and he'll get some votes from Dems as well, mainly because he's willing to work across the aisle to move in the right direction. He's old school, and maybe that's why I like him so much. It might be a smart move for him if it goes to a contested convention. He's not as strong with the rightmost leaning of the base, but he's going to pull a lot from the middle. It's a strong strategic move for the GOP if they can nominate him in a contested convention. He needs to pull a handful of wins out of the hat between now and the convention to make that work though. If he can get to 5 wins, I suspect you'll see the cut off voted down to 5 wins to be considered. Prior to 2012, 5 states was the win limit for consideration, so the precedent is there. If he stays at 1 win, it will be hard to argue to keep him on the ballot at the convention.

 

[mneilmont]

Yes. Kasich just admitted it. Does ACA have problems? Lots, but they can be dealt with and it was intended to make insurance costs cheaper in the long term. But rather than trying to fix it, the GOP propped it up on a stick, lit it on fire, and paraded it through the village for all to see. And now guys like Kasich are coming clean.

"In the long term" was that one of those addendum s that people like Josh Earnest adds at a later date to give some flexibility to the original terms? "GOP propped it up" was an impossibility since they were shut out of the process. Obamacare is a total abortion created by the other party. I certainly do agree that the GOP added some sunshine to the bill.

 

[Mntneer]

Yes. Kasich just admitted it. Does ACA have problems? Lots, but they can be dealt with and it was intended to make insurance costs cheaper in the long term. But rather than trying to fix it, the GOP propped it up on a stick, lit it on fire, and paraded it through the village for all to see. And now guys like Kasich are coming clean.

Kasich is pointing out that it was stupid to claim you're going to repeal it when everyone knows that Obama wouldn't sign legislation to repeal it and that you don't have the votes to override that veto.

 

[bamaEER]

Kasich is making his case for the general right now. He's showing his conservative roots, but also talking logically about how to get things done as president. He's playing to the independents and the moderate GOP, and he'll get some votes from Dems as well, mainly because he's willing to work across the aisle to move in the right direction. He's old school, and maybe that's why I like him so much. It might be a smart move for him if it goes to a contested convention. He's not as strong with the rightmost leaning of the base, but he's going to pull a lot from the middle. It's a strong strategic move for the GOP if they can nominate him in a contested convention. He needs to pull a handful of wins out of the hat between now and the convention to make that work though. If he can get to 5 wins, I suspect you'll see the cut off voted down to 5 wins to be considered. Prior to 2012, 5 states was the win limit for consideration, so the precedent is there. If he stays at 1 win, it will be hard to argue to keep him on the ballot at the convention.

I like him too and it blows my mind that he hasn't fared better, something like 5% compared to cheetohead's 50%. With Cruz sitting between them, I think Kasich would be a real longshot.