How many of his titles have been vacated so far?Only question becomes IF cal won more titles, how many get vacated later on?
How many of his titles have been vacated so far?Only question becomes IF cal won more titles, how many get vacated later on?
How many of his titles have been vacated so far?
I'd hope that a Duke-affiliated person would have the logical wherewithal to account for both the input and the output of a system.
I'd hope that a Duke-affiliated person would have the logical wherewithal to account for both the input and the output of a system. Going by sheer number of incoming five star/burger boy level guys, UK's teams have been over twice as talented as Duke's over the past 7 years. Do you really believe that is the case? Obviously not - they both average around 6 per roster (go look for yourself) but UK requires more input to keep up with the output.
The reductio ad absurdum: Coach A's roster is comprised of 8 freshman five stars and he replaces them all annually with 8 more. Coach B's roster is 2 fr, 2 so, 2 jr, 2 sr five stars, and he replaces the 2 SRs with 2 fr every year. Is coach A's roster better? After all, he gets four times as many five stars as coach B!
Silly argument, right?
As for the title crack, there's another important logical concept to grasp - probability and the single-elimination tournament format. Coach K lost in '99 with 5 lottery picks including #1. It happens. If you gave Cal the talent K has had at Duke for the past 3 decades, does he win 5 titles over 30 years? Probably not, but so what? That just means he's not as good as the GOAT. Boo f'n hoo. Nobody in here believes he wouldn't have at least 2 or 3 in those 30 years, which would put him in incredibly elite historical company. He took squads w/ only 2 high major kids on each at UMASS and reeled off 5 straight tourney appearances, averaging 30 wins a season, 3 16s with a F4 + E8 at a school that had 1 tourney appearance before him, in 1962. The only coaches who have matched his current F4 streak are Wooden and K. He didn't forget how to coach.
Your guys are gonna be great. And because you have more high level guys coming back than we do (output of the system), I expect Duke '16-'17 to be better than UK. But the tourney is a devilish mistress.
Pretty fair all around. I agree.In all fairness I think coach cal does a really good job handling all the talent he gets. He has to reload even more than Duke does it seems to me. I don't have all the numbers of actual one and done's and stuff, but I think it is fair to say that UK has more guys coming and going than Duke or KU, or anyone. But they play defense, they share the ball, all the things that it takes a pretty good coach to get these type of recruits to do. Still, I love Duke and definitely feel that Coach K and staff do a great job handling talent as well. K will not play someone who is not producing, obviously Jeter is a big example, Silent G, and I am not sure why to this day that Elliot did not play more early on and he left to go back to Memphis. The biggest difference is that Duke has not had the NCAA problems that UMASS and Memphis had when Cal was there and Duke has won three titles since the new century. UK will be really tough again next year, a Duke v UK game would be potentially epic if it happens. Sure hope if it does Duke wins, but way too hard to even try to predict that one now...don't even know where Bolden will be as of today or how healthy Giles will be. Fox is really good obviously, except for a healthy Dennis Smith Jr, he will be the best possible pg to take over for Ullis.
Cal, the gift that keeps giving:
On February 26, 2011, after Kentucky beat the Florida Gators in Rupp Arena, Calipari was recognized for his 500th career victory as a Division I men's basketball coach. Over the course of the next few months, the NCAA's Committee on Infractions (COI) and the University of Kentucky exchanged letters debating whether Calipari had indeed reached the 500-win milestone. Due to games vacated by the NCAA in two different seasons (the 1996 season at UMass and the 2008 season at Memphis), the NCAA only officially recognized Calipari's 500th all time coaching victory on March 15, 2012.[citation needed]
When are you gonna get rid of this freaking avatar. Could the dude who won the bet vs. Crank please show some MERCY. By the way on another thread I posted while pumping gas a kid pulls up and gets out of his vehicle and he looked exactly like BIG luke maye only about a foot shorter. I guess he wondered why I kept starring at him while shaking my head. OFC