Jordan Watson, yikes...
- Thread starter qwesley
- Start date
Well it is year four. In year four--if a HC has a problem with the performance of players, coordinators, position coaches, recruiting, retention, player development, conditioning, game preparation, and/or game adjustments; he doesn't have to look too far to cast blame....only the mirror. Every person associated with the team and their performance is a product of the HC's decision making (directly or indirectly). It is a tough job being the man in charge....all roads eventually lead back to you.
You haven't listened to many of his postage pressers. Your agenda is old, much like stoops shtick. Nothing has worked so why would this work? And if he's willing to get paid millions and call his players sucky why can't he go to the media and say I suck, I get paid millions to bring in sucky players and coach sucky teams. Only seems fair to call himself out if he's going to call players out publicly. He needs to learn accountability at some point and realize it's his fault we suck since its year 4 and we're regressing.
Lots of players who quit complain about the coaches, even if it was years ago.
Calling out the players isn't a problem and shouldn't be a big deal.
His coaching can/should be questioned - just not for that stupid *** reason.
His coaching can/should be questioned - just not for that stupid *** reason.
No wonder we suck every year. That dude is the weakest looking 303 pounder I've ever seen.
Id like to change my request for him to crawl back under his rock to include "Justin, put down those cheeseburgers!!"
Looks like Stoops strategy payed off. Maybe Jordan should just stick to being a quitter instead of a complainer.
This week was the first I heard him call out his players as a unit. Seemed it worked. So he must be a brilliant motivator now.
To everyone bashing him for posting his opinion on his Facebook page what makes it ok for you to comment on the team but not him? How many games did you play? I mean you must have played a lot of meaningful snaps if Watson's career diminishes his opinion. He didn't come on the board saying I'm Jordan Watson and my opinion is so much better than yours. He simply commented on what he thinks of Mark Stoops on his own Facebook page. It was also an opinion many of us share. I agree his view of Stoops is not going to affect the environment around the team like it would if Randall Cobb said something. At this point he's just a fan of UK and his opinion on the program are just like any of ours, except he probably has more knowledge X's and O's wise.
Our paths crossed a few times while we were in school. He stayed at UK and graduated. He told me he didn't want to quit football. It was that his shoulder never healed and Stoops pulled his scholarship FWIW.
Our paths crossed a few times while we were in school. He stayed at UK and graduated. He told me he didn't want to quit football. It was that his shoulder never healed and Stoops pulled his scholarship FWIW.
I agree he can post what he wants on his Facebook page.
As for the scholarship deal, to my knowledge he would be the only player that Stoops had done that to. So not sure I believe that last part.
You cannot know this.
Happens every year on every team.
Players transferring for more playing time is very true, because many times their year-to-year schollie isnt available anymore.
Again, happens every year.
No, I understand that. I played 2 college sports and coached some college ball, so I know how that works.
I am talking about Stoops taking his scholarship because of his injury. I don't think he has done that.
You have the right to post this, I understand that. But in your short reply you directly or indirectly said 'Stoops sucks' four times. Most of us fans are really upset with his performance and he frustrates the holy hell out of me. But it's getting to the point where people are attacking 'Stoops the man' instead of 'Stoops the coach'. Hell, yesterday fans were claiming he was in a sex scandal worse than Bobby Petrino. I don't know if that had any merit whatsoever but even if he's done something wrong 99% of those ready to hang him didn't know ANYTHING and they were just piling on. I've been adamant that he needs to go and I think he's doing a terrible job as our coach. But it seems like a good portion of our fans would like to see him run over by a train. I try to respect everyone's opinion but man some fans need to ease up on 'Stoops the man'. Just my opinion though.
Your word against his. Considering he's spent time within the Stoops program, I'll take his word over yours.
Yeah, and I know a lot of kids who quit because they didn't like the coach because he was dumb. Typically, those are the kids who can't cut it.
So him spending time in that program doesn't prove anything.
It proves he knows how things work inside UK's program more than most people on here. It's funny how yesterday you were saying we shouldn't talk about certain things because it could affect someone's family yet here you are insinuating a former player couldn't have been cut by Stoops and that you think he couldn't cut it here or quit on the team.
Never insinuated that at all. And I don't see how my comments are effecting someone's family. Big difference in saying I don't believe him about a scholarship pulled and saying someone was going to get fired for getting someone pregnant other than his wife due to him being in a position of power.
I stand corrected. He's a great coach coaching a great team. That much is obvious. Maybe we'll even get to play in a bowl game, next year.
Noone said he was great or the team was great. But you and others here said he had no clout to call out his players because they wouldn't respond. Seems to me that you were wrong and now won't admit it.
Will it continue? Who knows. But for this time it seemed to work.
You didn't defend him when other posters were calling Watson a hack, quitter and whatever else was said about him. Maybe his family reads these boards. Could be affecting them.
Also, I just relayed what was told to me in the sporadic conversations I've had with him. I have no reason to believe he'd lie about Stoops cutting him. I brought up the end of his career, not him. You can choose to believe it or not, but if you fail to see how someone that has been a part of a Mark Stoops team doesn't have more insight than us as to what goes on inside Stoops' program than I'm not sure what to tell you.
Yeah, and his insight may be different than others due to him not making the cut is what I am saying. Could be sour grapes.
And would I need to defend him. I never said those things for one. Secondly, I never said I agree with them. And thirdly, calling him a quitter is still not the same as what those claimed about Stoops. So if you don't understand that, then I don't know what to tell you.
But I will say this. Someone from the Joker era really has no business throwing stones at a team or a coach. Just saying!!
They responded pretty well. Put in the best performance of the year on Saturday night.