And Franklinton won the state championship in overtime saturday night. However, robinson broke his arm in the 3rd quarter blocking a big *** defensive end. Supposedly had surgery on it yesterday, but I don't think it will be a factor. My friend says he tried to go back in the game and the coaches had to hold him back to keep him from going back in. They had his arm in a splint and he stayed on the sidelines. He never left the sidelines. That says a lot ab out his character.
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And Franklinton won the state championship in overtime saturday night. However, robinson broke his arm in the 3rd quarter blocking a big *** defensive end. Supposedly had surgery on it yesterday, but I don't think it will be a factor. My friend says he tried to go back in the game and the coaches had to hold him back to keep him from going back in. They had his arm in a splint and he stayed on the sidelines. He never left the sidelines. That says a lot ab out his character.
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and fill the gap after Ballard leaves. Perkins has proven himself, but he's not the stud tailback that MSU is known for. We really need that bonafide horse in the backfield again. Dixon, Norwood, Miller/Walker, Johnson, McGee, Davis/Bouie, etc.
Good thing Ballard filled the gap that Elliot busted. Can't have that again. Don't know if it was his injury or what but he just doesn't have 'it' required to be an SEC tailback.
Good thing Ballard filled the gap that Elliot busted. Can't have that again. Don't know if it was his injury or what but he just doesn't have 'it' required to be an SEC tailback.
We do need a workhorse after Ballard. I hear about robinson every monday morning and I have watched several highlight videos of him and he looks the part. He is small but so is Ballard. The wr Chris Briggs from Franklinton looks like he may turn out to be good. We show medium interest on scout for Briggs. Dandy Don says Briggs is the best reciever he has seen all year in LA and doesn't understand why the bigger schools are not after him. He needs to bulk up but a 6'5" wr that runs a 4.47 would not be a bad pickup if we lose out on one of our big 3 (morrow, Brassel, singleton).
I think Perkins showed while Ballard was hurt that he is capable of being an every down back for us.
You could see some of it in the comments by Mullen recently. They think he is going to be a special player. I am still a little surprised because I never really thought much of the video I saw on him. However, it does echo what a lot of the gurus were saying about him being the best back in the state last year without question. He supposedly has a very good combination of size and speed.
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or the same size,who you are saying may need to step in and be that guy. I doubt we need to have a back like we have had in the past that has to carry the entire load as long as Mullen is here. I think Ladarius can easil;y handle 20 touches a game, which would be plenty for him to be a stud.
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</div>I have a good feeling about Robinson and Prescott. I think our Louisiana recruits may contribute early, assuming they both come here. I have a mushy head.
</div>I have a good feeling about Robinson and Prescott. I think our Louisiana recruits may contribute early, assuming they both come here. I have a mushy head.
But if forced into a full time gig I think he could definitely produce. Our coaches sure haven't treated him like a scat back this year, that tells you a little something about what they think about his all around game. They weren't scared to send him right up the middle on short yardage plays. He also is really well put together, we aren't talking about a little skinny guy. Guys like Darren Sproles, Mccluster, MJD, etc., etc. have done just fine if we are talking purely about size. Hell, Perkins is probably bigger than all 3 of those guys at this point. <div>
</div><div>Fortunately, we get to roll with another year of Ballard and Perk, which is really an outstanding combo...giving Griffin another year to learn and grow...then 2 years of Griffin and Perk. I think we are in pretty good shape. </div>
</div><div>Fortunately, we get to roll with another year of Ballard and Perk, which is really an outstanding combo...giving Griffin another year to learn and grow...then 2 years of Griffin and Perk. I think we are in pretty good shape. </div>
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And Perkins is short as hell. I can almost look over his head at the Dawg Walks.
Either way you are missing the point. He is not the stud running back that we build the team around, the guy who falls forward for 3 yards. If you touch him he falls down. He's amazing in space yes, but I don't see why you can't comprehend this?
Either way you are missing the point. He is not the stud running back that we build the team around, the guy who falls forward for 3 yards. If you touch him he falls down. He's amazing in space yes, but I don't see why you can't comprehend this?
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Some poster mentioned Norwood's size too. I guess my point was, he's not in the mold of the traditional MSU back. And that's the guy you can lean on to take over ball games for you and generally regarded as one of the best players on the team. Norwood played a little different game than Perkins in my opinion, more tough and aggressive.</p>
I just pulled those numbers out of the air....but that is basically what I would qualify as a "big back". <div>
</div><div>Jones Drew is like 5'7/208. I guarantee you Perkins is up to close to 200 now if he arrived at 190 (not sure about this - just what I remember). The difference really lies in how they are built. The reason Jones Drew is an every down back and Sproles and McCluster, etc. are role players is because MJD is built like a little bowling ball. Perkins really is built the same way. If I was creating a running back, I would rather have Perkins' measurables than J-Rock's (although Jerious was really hampered more by his skinny legs than his actual weight, which was adequate). </div><div>
</div><div>aGAIN, I essentially agree that we would ideally use him in a 2-back role, but I think he could be pretty good on his own. </div>
</div><div>Jones Drew is like 5'7/208. I guarantee you Perkins is up to close to 200 now if he arrived at 190 (not sure about this - just what I remember). The difference really lies in how they are built. The reason Jones Drew is an every down back and Sproles and McCluster, etc. are role players is because MJD is built like a little bowling ball. Perkins really is built the same way. If I was creating a running back, I would rather have Perkins' measurables than J-Rock's (although Jerious was really hampered more by his skinny legs than his actual weight, which was adequate). </div><div>
</div><div>aGAIN, I essentially agree that we would ideally use him in a 2-back role, but I think he could be pretty good on his own. </div>
I agree with you about Perkins not being the power back however he has so much speed if you give him the right plays out of the backfield he could be the starter. There is really not a lot of difference between Ballard, Perkins, and Robinson when it comes to measurable size. I mean they are all below 6' and under 215ibs. The difference is their natural abiity to run hard vs being an agile runner. Robinson to me looks like a combination of perkins and Ballard. He is very agile but will run people over also. I'm just glad we can have this conversation. I believe things are going to get really good and comopetitive on our football team. Look at next year, we will have a Qb battle a running back battle, and most like Lb battling for startung job. We are recruiting depth and I like that.
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Perkins is a pure offensive weapon. He's swift as greased owl feces, and he can catch. His size leaves a little to be desired, but he is a threat every times he touches the ball.
for size. Perkins is listed as an inch taller. But you're right, none of that matters. I asked what he has done to show that he will not be a stud, you said because he is small. He is roughly the same size as Robinson(who I have not seen listed over 200 lbs. anywhere, but I don't read gene's page) Not a big enough difference between the 2 guys to use size as a factor. I also said that we probablywon't need tohave a guy like we've had in the past under Mullen. We are more likelygoing to build our offense around a QB than a RB, and will keep a steady rotation of 2 or 3 backs.
What am I not comprehending? I am just disagreeing that from what I've seen, Perkins can carry the load if needed, and make some pretty dynamic plays while doing so. He may do nothing but play special teams in 2 years, but at this point, he hasn't shown me anything to support him not having the potential to be a stud.</p>
What am I not comprehending? I am just disagreeing that from what I've seen, Perkins can carry the load if needed, and make some pretty dynamic plays while doing so. He may do nothing but play special teams in 2 years, but at this point, he hasn't shown me anything to support him not having the potential to be a stud.</p>
And I am going to take a shot and say his is between 195-200. Hell, Ray Rice is 5'8/212. Ahmad Bradshaw 5'9/198. CJ Spiller 5'11/196. Jamal Charles 5'11/199. DeAngelo Williams 5'9/217. Chris Johnson 5'11/195. LeSean McCoy 5'11/210..etc.,etc. If Balis could get him up to about 205...look out.
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with Perkins' ability to run up the middle. I was skeptical several times on 3rd and short when Mullen gave Perkins the ball up the middle. He got the job done. In an interview Mullen said it was the way the rotation fell. That being said, Perkins can be physical when he needs to be.
I think i remember hearing on NFL network that the to 10 RBs all time (yardage) were under 6' or so? I'm not sure if that's accurate.
Yeah he "may" can get the job done up the middle but I would rather see perkins in space. If we were left with perkins as our starting tailback then so be it. I think we would be ok, but we would have to make sure the big uglies uip front were doing a damn good job for him. Ill take ballard 9 times out of 10 with the play calls we had this year. Its all a matter of putting the best players in the best scenario and we have a staff that knows this. I'm just happy that we have Ballard and perkins instead of Ballard and Elliot.
I've been saying all year to get Perkins in space and he's gone, and it finally happened at Ole Miss and we stuck with it and HAMMERED Ole Miss. I don't necessarily think he CAN'T be an every down back, but why would you want him to be when he can line up at WR or RB and dominate the screen passes and options? A two back set with Perkins and a 6' 220lbs back next to him is ideal.
I'm with you partly, maybe he isn't the stud back like Dixon, Johnson, Miller and Norwood was....yet. But I think he totally has the potential to become one. Look at all the backs in the NFL that are built like him....Michael Turner, Ray Rice, Maurice Jones-Drew....all short and stocky...like Perkins. I know he doesn't have the strength that those guys have, but he is going to get stronger. <div>Goat Holder II said:
</div><div>I hate that Elliot ended up not fulfilling his potential. That guy was a freak of nature in high school, and from what I hear from locals I grew up with that know him and his family, that after he injured his leg, he just hasn't been the same since. Everybody around my home of Amory and Monroe county thought he would have been the best players out of the Monroe county since Rufus French and Joe Gunn.</div>
He is having trouble with grades. His guardians have private tutors for him to help with that. I'm also told that his gaurdians are msu alums!!!
Look at the difference between the bigger back and the smaller backs. I think football is drifting away from the hard pounding Jim Brown, run over you type backs.AzzurriDawg4 said: