Just a theory on Mullen's recruiting crash....

[fis]

Is that I wonder how much opposing recruiters are pointing out to kids that it's widely accepted his offensive approach won't work in the NFL? Meyer flamed out with it when he didn't have the QB.

To me, it seems like a coach can show allhis collegewins but when that coach is coaching a short-cut style that won't work in the pro's which is most kid's dream, and another coach is teaching a style that will work in the pros, it's a "no-brainer" for that kid. I don't think it has anything to do with Diaz.

 

[KennyPowers2]

fail!!!</p>

 

[bryanwxbulldog]

tell me why nutt's offense stinks worse than a hobo's dickcheese. go suck yourself. and thanks for stopping by!

 

[the next big thing]

regardless of where you came from

 

[EAVdog]

nm

 

[hotdigitydog]

The big recruits we lost were mostly on the defensive side (Johnson, Whitehead, Mackey).........The one big recruit we lost on offense was Brassell and the spread doesn't hurt a WR's chances for making a pro team whatsoever.........Honestly, it doesn't hurt with other skill players either......If your good enough, people don't give a damn if you run the old wing t offense, veer orwish bone......It seems to me that Cam Newton did pretty good in a spread offense and guess what, "he's a likely first rounder" and Tebow did pretty damn well this year so your theory doesn't hold water........</p>

 

[gravedigger]

of course Meyer winning the nc's with that offense was all a hallucination.

But the Nutt offense this year just screams NFL eh?

Please...go on..

 

[ckDOG]

If I were a Ryan Mallet type QB with NFL on my mind, I wouldn't give MSU much, if any, consideration. Of course, that doesn't matter to me because the offense doesn't call for that type of skill-set. Chris Relf has no NFL chances, but he works for our system. I'm fine with that as long as we can continue attracting QBs with dual threat skill sets. All other positions, I'd say there is little chance of the NFL discounting their output. WRs still run routes, RBs still pound out yards, and lineman still block. Our LT is setting up nicely for this year's draft. I haven't read one concern regarding the system he's been part of.

 

[dawgoneyall]

Fat heads?????

 

[woozman]

if you're a 5* RB

 

[thatsbaseball]

laugh if you want but the Cam deal was huge in that it can be spun many many ways...none of which are good in the eyes of many 17 year olds and their families when college football is there only chance at least a little relief from real financial stress. I truly believe he lost the trust and respect of many athletes and their families by tattling.

 

[fis]

The big recruits we lost were mostly on the defensive side (Johnson, Whitehead, Mackey).........The one big recruit we lost on offense was Brassell and the spread doesn't hurt a WR's chances for making a pro team whatsoever.........Honestly, it doesn't hurt with other skill players either......If your good enough, people don't give a damn if you run the old wing t offense, veer orwish bone......It seems to me that Cam Newton did pretty good in a spread offense and guess what, "he's a likely first rounder" and Tebow did pretty damn well this year so your theory doesn't hold water........</p>

Newton and Tebow are also superior 1on 1athletes and team leaders vs their college competition. Your argument is not strong b/c if Tebow turns out to be an NFL bust as most predict, that essentially makes Mullen a weaker coach since he helped developed him, and lives by the same philosphy Tebow was successful in college with. Back up and read my thread again. I'm not talking about college success.

Next year Auburn loses almost all their O-line and Newton. You'll see Gus Malzhan isn't as good as you think.

 

[mcdawg22]

And many people say Tebow's throwing motion regressed after Mullen left. Percy Harvin also transitioned pretty well from
a slash type player to dynamic receiver in the NFL. Without that offense Tebow would have been regarded as another Matt Jones. Who coached him again?

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

DS what about the dumbass post ban threat? Action Please!

 

[weblow]

what the hell makes you think we want your dumbass posts over here. Go stroke Nutt's prick somewhere else, we have enough lunatic state fans here now, we don't need any other fruitcakes.

 

[Rebels7]

It seriously may be Nutt's mother. Seriously.

 

[ckDOG]

1) There aren't but a handful of programs out there that recruit NFL quality talent every year AND run a system closely aligned with your typical NFL philosophy. The college game has evolved quite a bit in the last decade. There just aren't many programs out there that run 80%+ of their plays with QBs under center and rely on play action. Hell, the NFL has changed a lot the last decade as well.

2) It doesn't matter if Tebow turns out to be a bust or not. If he does, it actually gives an athletic QB even more of a reason to play for Mullen or in a system like Mullen's. Do you think Tebow would have put up the same numbers at USC or Alabama? Probably not. Hell, he might have been 2nd string. The gaudy numbers he put up were due mainly to his freak athleticism, but also to a system that allowed him to fully exploit those talents. If the point is to get to the NFL, the mission accomplished.

Mississippi State is not recruiting traditional pro-style QBs. If you argument is going to be centered around the QB position you may as well quit now because it doesn't matter.

 

[Todd4State]

Has coached two- about to be three NFL first round pick QB's (Alex Smith, Tim Tebow, and Cam Newton) in his career, not to mention that two of those have won the Heisman, and the fact that what Dan has done with Chris Relf should be considered a football miracle, I doubt it. And if Relf improves his passing, I wouldn't be shocked at all if a NFL team gives him a long look and gives him a shot as a free agent.

Plus, I thought Tebow did pretty well in the NFL. At this point, I would be more surprised if he didn't suceed. We'll see.

And as far as Nutt's offense and preparing guys for the NFL- maybe you should ask Jermiah Masoli and Jevean Snead about that.

 

[gravedigger]

you want to say that:

Recruits would rather:

1. play for a team that prepares them for the NFL

than

2. a collegiate national champion.

High school kids want attention. That means media attention. They already know they are NFL material.

 

[J-Dawg]

I was watching something on ESPN the other day and they were talking about the upcoming draft and just how the NFL has changed recently. They made a good point that in old times, the NFL offense pretty much dictated the offensive style of college football... but they went on to say that that is shifting.. that college styles are going to start having more influence on the pro's. Wildcat for example.

 

[Mullenation]

Has coached two- about to be three NFL first round pick QB's (Alex Smith, Tim Tebow, and Cam Newton) in his career, not to mention that two of those have won the Heisman, and <span style="font-weight: bold;">the fact that what Dan has done with Chris Relf should be considered a football miracle</span>, I doubt it. And if Relf improves his passing, I wouldn't be shocked at all if a NFL team gives him a long look and gives him a shot as a free agent.

Plus, I thought Tebow did pretty well in the NFL. At this point, I would be more surprised if he didn't suceed. We'll see.

And as far as Nutt's offense and preparing guys for the NFL- maybe you should ask Jermiah Masoli and Jevean Snead about that.

a miracle indeed