Just heard...some virus info

[UKGrad93]

No.
1- that some are being tested does not mean “there is a vaccine”, which implies it works. Most vaccines, drugs, and biologicals that are tested don’t work and fail or are shown to not be safe.
2- it takes much longer than 3 months!!! Average time for a drug is 7 years. Even for rare serious diseases with no treatment options (where the FDA will work with you more), it is still at least 2-3 years. Vaccines can probably be faster. But I don’t think 3 months, or even 6.
Even once you are ready for safety and efficacy studies in humans, you have to design the trial, enroll the subjects, collect and analyze the data, write the report, send to the FDA for their review and approval. And then you have to manufacture it. Each step takes time. Patient safety in trials is a big deal!

I’ve heard experts mention a 12-18 month timeline. Maybe 3 months for phase 1 (make sure the vaccine itself doesn’t cause harm), maybe 6-9 months for phase 2(make sure it works), then another 3-6 months to roll it out on a larger trial.

The vaccine has to be right. You don’t want to give people a false sense of security and make the spread worse.

I expect to see something available a little sooner in Europe because they seem to have looser standards. Though, I do think the FDA will let this move a little faster than normal.

 

[kl40504_rivals]

I’ve heard experts mention a 12-18 month timeline. Maybe 3 months for phase 1 (make sure the vaccine itself doesn’t cause harm), maybe 6-9 months for phase 2(make sure it works), then another 3-6 months to roll it out on a larger trial.

The vaccine has to be right. You don’t want to give people a false sense of security and make the spread worse.

I expect to see something available a little sooner in Europe because they seem to have looser standards. Though, I do think the FDA will let this move a little faster than normal.

We could reduce the speed limit to 25 mph and reduce highway deaths drastically or we could close down everything for six months and completely wreck the economy

 

[joeyrupption]

We could reduce the speed limit to 25 mph and reduce highway deaths drastically or we could close down everything for six months and completely wreck the economy

It is 56x less deadly to be on the road. There are 2 million drivers in the US. They carry an average of 0.59 passengers with them. The death rate of COVID-19 as a weighted average based on miles driven by age group is ~2.8%. The average time from infection to death is 18.5 days, which is 2.64wks. In that timeframe, ~1,777 would be killed on the road out of the 3.18MM people on it, that gives us a death rate of .05%. (2.8 / 0.05) = 56x multiplier.

We can adjust our society’s behavior in order to keep keep things rolling (not stopped) for a few months and get past this or we can suffer a catastrophe.

 

[gobigblue812_rivals29381]

Actual cases right now is probably 10k at least. People can’t even get tested. It might be 50K

Which is why the mortality rate is completely skewed.

 

[Blueaz]

I take it reading comprehension is not a strength of yours. I never said it would take 7 years.

Sigh, Are you my ex?
Keep on keeping on.
Have fun, be save and stop trying to create ****. Good grief.
Since I can’t ignore her, I will you.

 

[UKGrad93]

We could reduce the speed limit to 25 mph and reduce highway deaths drastically or we could close down everything for six months and completely wreck the economy

If you’re game for it, I made a vaccine in my garage this morning. I’ll need you to sign a waiver first.

 

[kl40504_rivals]

It is 56x less deadly to be on the road. There are 2 million drivers in the US. They carry an average of 0.59 passengers with them. The death rate of COVID-19 as a weighted average based on miles driven by age group is ~2.8%. The average time from infection to death is 18.5 days, which is 2.64wks. In that timeframe, ~1,777 would be killed on the road out of the 3.18MM people on it, that gives us a death rate of .05%. (2.8 / 0.05) = 56x multiplier.

We can adjust our society’s behavior in order to keep keep things rolling (not stopped) for a few months and get past this or we can suffer a catastrophe.

Or we can wait until next flu season and see a much higher rate of deaths.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

Or we can wait until next flu season and see a much higher rate of deaths.

Flu has a 0.1% mortality rate

Covid 19 has a 2%+ mortality rate

You didnt even stick to your total number of deaths but put the word rate in to make yourself even more wrong.

 

[Ukbrassowtipin]

Flu has a 0.1% mortality rate

Covid 19 has a 2%+ mortality rate

You didnt even stick to your total number of deaths but put the word rate in to make yourself even more wrong.

But common sense tells us this number will drop the more people are tested.

"
What is the mortality rate of the new coronavirus?

It is probably about or a bit less than 1%. Much higher figures have been flying about, but the chief medical officer, Chris Whitty, is one of those who believes it will prove to be 1% or lower. The World Health Organization’s director general, Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, talked of 3.4%, but his figure was calculated by dividing the number of deaths by the number of officially confirmed cases. We know there are many more mild cases that do not get to hospital and are not being counted, which would bring the mortality rate significantly down."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...-facts-cure-mortality-rate-virus-covid-19-flu

 

[The-Hack]

I need a drone and an AR 15!

Want to trade some toilet paper for an AR and drone?

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

It’s like the big reveal during season 2 of the walking dead. Everybody already has it.

This. If it's as infectious as they say, everyone is already exposed. There are probably hundreds of thousands that had or have it. Maybe millions.

Which is actually good news imo. The symptoms are so mild no one thought anything about it. And the mortality rate is way lower than they predict.

 

[awf]

A major concern. Ireland has already had 1 death.

Yes and the death rate in Italy is 7%........

 

[Tskware]

Yeah she said that her info shows that it will continue to grow but hopefully peak in another 4-7 weeks.

I think that sounds right, I think we are in for about a six week **** storm, then life will start to get back to normal

 

[Baller Cal]

The wife of the President of The University of Texas was diagnosed with Corona, but they tested her husband and he came back negative. There is hope.

 

[AustinTXCat]

The wife of the President of The University of Texas was diagnosed with Corona, but they tested her husband and he came back negative. There is hope.

Yeah, made the news here Friday. She will self-quarantine. Another Fenves family member, who also works at UTexas, presumably has COVID-19 and is going into self-isolation.

 

[KyFaninNC]

Actual cases right now is probably 10k at least. People can’t even get tested. It might be 50K

If they can’t be tested, how does anyone know they got it?

 

[cole854]

CNN reporting the deaths could total 50 million, according to multiple Twitter accounts.

That's irresponsible reporting.

 

[Baller Cal]

That's irresponsible reporting.

What do you expect from Don Lemon? He's pure garbage.

 

[thecatsareback#8]

It is 56x less deadly to be on the road. There are 2 million drivers in the US. They carry an average of 0.59 passengers with them. The death rate of COVID-19 as a weighted average based on miles driven by age group is ~2.8%. The average time from infection to death is 18.5 days, which is 2.64wks. In that timeframe, ~1,777 would be killed on the road out of the 3.18MM people on it, that gives us a death rate of .05%. (2.8 / 0.05) = 56x multiplier.

We can adjust our society’s behavior in order to keep keep things rolling (not stopped) for a few months and get past this or we can suffer a catastrophe.

I don’t know where you are getting there are 2 million drivers in America. That’s not even close to being right.
Anyways, the chances of dying in a car wreck in the average American’s lifetime is 1/103. For the age groups of 1-50 you are looking at about 1/500 chance of dying.

 

[cole854]

Yes and the death rate in Italy is 7%........

Which is distorted because of the high avg age of those who have died.

 

[TheDude73]

Ages seem to be changing for more severe cases. France is now reporting that over half of the 300 hospitalized there are under 60.

 

[cole854]

Ages seem to be changing for more severe cases. France is now reporting that over half of the 300 hospitalized there are under 60.

Which still tells only a portion of the story, as we don't know the health issues of these patients. 71 of the 91 who have died in France were older than 75.

 

[awf]

Which still tells only a portion of the story, as we don't know the health issues of these patients. 71 of the 91 who have died in France were older than 75.

Your answers would imply that you feel is it OK for the older folks to die........Who give a flying F'k what the ages are of people who are dying.......people are dying from a pandemic virus..........

 

[cole854]

Your answers would imply that you feel is it OK for the older folks to die........Who give a flying F'k what the ages are of people who are dying.......people are dying from a pandemic virus..........

Yeah...it's ok.

Just saying that repeating these "stats" without telling the whole story leads to a lot of fear and misrepresentations.

 

[Chuckinden]

CNN reporting the deaths could total 50 million, according to multiple Twitter accounts.

LINK???

 

[Tskware]

LINK???

According to Russian twitter accounts?

 

[Baller Cal]

LINK???

According to all of Don Lemon's multiple twitter accounts.....Shameful the fear some will spread in hopes of changing someone's vote for the next election.

 

[catsfanbgky]

Your answers would imply that you feel is it OK for the older folks to die........Who give a flying F'k what the ages are of people who are dying.......people are dying from a pandemic virus..........

No what his answer was implying (at least for people with a brain), is that even if it was the flu or some other illness, older people have a very weak immune system, and whether healthy or not, have severely decreased lung capacity. As you get older, your immune system and oxygen decreases as natural aging. So in short, older people have a greater risk of dying even if they catch a case of the flu or pneumonia. So MAYBE the death rates of CV is not as intense as people are saying.

When the death rates of people under the age of 50, whom are somewhat healthy and do not have underlying health issues, then we can get alarmed.

 

[kl40504_rivals]

LINK???

Must be coming from CNN. Must be true.

 

[kl40504_rivals]

Your answers would imply that you feel is it OK for the older folks to die........Who give a flying F'k what the ages are of people who are dying.......people are dying from a pandemic virus..........

Your favorite CNN broadcaster will keep you informed.

 

[awf]

Your favorite CNN broadcaster will keep you informed.

Where do I find CNN......

 

[kl40504_rivals]

Where do I find CNN......

I am sure you have it as a favorite on your TV remote.

 

[kl40504_rivals]

Your answers would imply that you feel is it OK for the older folks to die........Who give a flying F'k what the ages are of people who are dying.......people are dying from a pandemic virus..........

I never saw you on here before concerned about all the deaths due to the flu.

 

[awf]

I am sure you have it as a favorite on your TV remote.

Just shows you don't know what you think you know.......That is the very last place I would look for information.......much like I could care less what you think....

 

[John Henry]

 

[awf]

I never saw you on here before concerned about all the deaths due to the flu.

Never was a discussion about death rates and the flu......if you can't see the difference between the virus and the flu that goes around every year you should inform yourself.....tangerines and grapefruit are both citrus but there are great differences in them........

 

[BoulderCat_rivals187983]

LOL. In my case it was my parents generation that was called to war. I applaud the President today, and perhaps you know that’s not easy for me. I particularly liked the emphasis that the young and healthy have a role to play. Even if it is just sitting on their couch. Hopefully he did a lot today to get us all on the same page.