Just listening to the postgame on the drive home...

dawgstudent

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was it me but I didn't notice any disappointment in Mullen's tone? I never expected to win but I was wondering if anyone else noticed that.

Let me add - there were positives to take from the game.
 

00Dawg

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Yeah, he was pretty upbeat.
Compare to Matt Wyatt, who sounded pissed off.

I don't take Mullen's mood as necessarily a bad thing. We missed several opportunities early that would've kept us from having to take chances late. I think he knows our offense is much improved, and that should be the best offense we face this year. A Siddoway block here, a Bell FG there, and we aren't forced to throw the ball in the 4th.
 

LawDawg97

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I thought the same thing. Sounded like he fully expected

the 4th quarter to go like it did. To have the game close and then get blown out like that I would've thought he'd sound devastated. I'm still pissed at the 2 point conversion call. He's trying too damn hard to be tricky and not just managing the game like a coach should.
 

dawgstudent

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I asked Matt Wyatt on twitter and he said it was planned during the week to go for it on first TD. Just doesn't make sense.

@MaroonWyatt: Planned during the week to go 2-pt on first TD. RT @sixpackspeak: @MaroonWyatt is the 2 pt conversion a call by Mullen or read by dak?
 
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fishwater99

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Dan is just too smart for his britches...
That was a dumb coaching move, whether you make it or not...
 

was21

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That extra point snafu was probably the difference in the game? The fact is that they are a more talent laden, deeper than we are. We just flat wore out in the fourth quarter. If we play like that in every game the rest of the year, we may manage to win six. Usually 26 is enough points to win most games, and with a better than average defense. Call me crazy, but the blowout score was misleading.
 
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And for many of us that have criticized his lack of fire during a game, he was fired up Saturday night. In tents.
 

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Yep, Matt said that on the broadcast. I said that makes it even worse....because they had 3 damn days to realize how stupid that call was.
 

Tin Cup Cowboy

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Exactly what I thought.

His tone was kind of like, "Hey! what the 17 ever Jim, I'll run the score up on Bowling Green and bring the plebs back to my side!"
 

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I agree with you on this. Dan outsmarts himself sometimes. This was one of those times. If we were good at converting 2-point conversions, it might have been different. But we absolutely suck balls at it. Like I said earlier, if we just kick the XP & Bell makes a chip shot FG, the 4th quarter would have played out very different than it did.
 

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I wouldn't have gone for two, but apparently if it was planned they saw something on film. I watched the replay of the first half yesterday, and it was wide open if Prescott makes the short easy throw. I'm sure he was tired after making the quick drive and the long run to score though.

With that said I prob would have still kicked the extra point.

But we did play fired up. The coaches were fired up. We did take chances. We did a lot of things well.

Our secondary was the weakness, but even that wasn't terrible. Yes at times they were, but many of the times we had really really good man to man coverage. Beckham Jr and Landry are great receivers and they made great plays. A weak personal foul face mask call and a non holding call are two chances in the first drive to only give up 3 instead of 6. Several other key plays hurt us too.

I feel a hell of a lot better than I did after Oklahoma State.
 
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We lined up in the wide formation and apparently got the matchup we were looking for. Mojo was wide open. It was an easy pitch and catch and Dak drilled the ground at Mojo's feet. Simply execution.
 

was21

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Apparently your zeal to get rid of him has clouded your entire judgment.
 

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I'm just glad he is showing a pulse. The team needed that at the end of last season. Out of any positive this past weekend, I liked Dan giving a **** the best.
 

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How many times has mullen stated and reiterated the importance of playing all 4 quarters and relentless effort and for the third time this year we **** the bed in the 4th quarter. Nothing worse than being a poor second half team. Thats lack of fire and motivation that trickles down from our head coach. The fact that his smug *** seemed satisfied is nauseating
 

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You`re not even coherent anymore. Where did the guy even vaguely insinuate that the 2 pt blunder was the difference in the game ? You`ve got to be on the athletic department payroll somewhere......
 

muddawgs

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Lack of Fire and Motivation?

How many times has mullen stated and reiterated the importance of playing all 4 quarters and relentless effort and for the third time this year we **** the bed in the 4th quarter. Nothing worse than being a poor second half team. Thats lack of fire and motivation that trickles down from our head coach. The fact that his smug *** seemed satisfied is nauseating

I would call it lack of depth and getting 17ing tired. That's why you see good teams pull away late in games.
 

was21

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Man I ain't gonna' continue to verbally spar with you on this shite..pull for Alabama or somebody. Maybe it will change your life for the better.
 

muddawgs

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the 4th quarter to go like it did. To have the game close and then get blown out like that I would've thought he'd sound devastated. I'm still pissed at the 2 point conversion call. He's trying too damn hard to be tricky and not just managing the game like a coach should.

I don't know why anyone would be pissed about the 2 point conversion. Bell is that 17ing bad. he's missed a couple of extra points and I can't even count how many he has been lucky not to have missed. He's missed a 30, 32, 35 and 40 yard FG's this season. FG's from that distance should be automatic, but Bell can't even do that. His longest FG made is 40 yards and we have mother17er's that routinely makes that in the punt pass and kick contest at halftime. And we still got 2 more years of this ****. I wouldn't mind if we went for 2 the rest of the year and anything within 5 yards, we went for automatically on 4th down within FG range. I get 17ing tired of the crowd going awwwwwwww after Bell kicks.
 

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I would call it lack of depth and getting 17ing tired. That's why you see good teams pull away late in games.

Hey, we're supposed to be "Ballis made", so we don't get too tired. It does seem like we give up sometimes when adversity hits. It appeared that all the wind went out of our sails after the missed field goal. Same thing happened in the Ole Miss game last year when our DB's kept getting beat.
 

LawDawg97

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I can't speak for others, but I was justifiably upset and here's why

It took a point off the board when we didn't need a point off the board. Simple as that. We had momentum turned after they had just run it down our throats, and we killed it by taking a risky chance that wasn't needed. As bad as Devon Bell is, he's better than 97% on XPs in his career so it was significantly more likely he was making that kick than us getting two. The two point play was a 50/50 at best and just a bad call at that time in the game. The fact that he made the call on Thursday just makes me question his in-game management even more. I never said it was the difference in the game.
 

fishwater99

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It took a point off the board when we didn't need a point off the board. Simple as that. We had momentum turned after they had just run it down our throats, and we killed it by taking a risky chance that wasn't needed. As bad as Devon Bell is, he's better than 97% on XPs in his career so it was significantly more likely he was making that kick than us getting two. The two point play was a 50/50 at best and just a bad call at that time in the game. The fact that he made the call on Thursday just makes me question his in-game management even more. I never said it was the difference in the game.

This...
 

muddawgs

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That rings true in the last 5 minutes of games not end 3rd/ beginning 4th

Last 5 minutes of game? **** I usually see it end of 3rd and start of 4th. I'm surprised it wasn't end of 2nd start 3rd the way we were chasing Lsu up and down the field. Plus, you add our offense scored pretty quick as well.
 

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It took a point off the board when we didn't need a point off the board. Simple as that. We had momentum turned after they had just run it down our throats, and we killed it by taking a risky chance that wasn't needed. As bad as Devon Bell is, he's better than 97% on XPs in his career so it was significantly more likely he was making that kick than us getting two. The two point play was a 50/50 at best and just a bad call at that time in the game. The fact that he made the call on Thursday just makes me question his in-game management even more. I never said it was the difference in the game.
That 2 point should have had a much higher % chance than 50/50. They had numbers and a wide open receiver. That should be 95%+ completion play and thus warrants the call. The problem was that Dak drilled into the ground instead of making the easy toss. Same as with the fake left go right where the lineman missed his block. Brilliant play/call, poorly executed. I thought Dan called a nice game. Players just didn't execute.
 

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I don't know why anyone would be pissed about the 2 point conversion. Bell is that 17ing bad. he's missed a couple of extra points and I can't even count how many he has been lucky not to have missed...

This has nothing to do with Bell. He's just like Freeze who kept going for it on 4th down @BAMA. Mullen was trying to cover his *** for going for 2 @AU when he saw Malzahn go for 2.
 

121Josey

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I would call it lack of depth and getting 17ing tired. That's why you see good teams pull away late in games.

I missed this lack of depth part. What position are we not 2-deep on defense. Our offense should have been plenty rested in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Did LSU played as many people as State did?
 
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Two pluses: 1- We were ready to play 2-We didn't get man-handled on the line. I feel a lot better about our team going forward. That said,

Mullen praised our team for hanging in there for 3 quarters. Matt Wyatt, on his post game show, said that 'he had never been patted on the back for playing hard for 3 quarters."
 

muddawgs

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what does 2 deep have to do with getting tired?

I missed this lack of depth part. What position are we not 2-deep on defense. Our offense should have been plenty rested in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Did LSU played as many people as State did?

the only positions we rotate regularly are defensive linemen. We put players in on certain situations but the starters play almost every snap. We are 2 deep on OL too, but I bet their *** was tired because they played the whole game. We are getting outscored 49-17 in the 4th qtr. We are outscoring our opponents in every other qtr.
 

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I wrote off the first couple of years` mistakes because he was a rookie head coach. My problem is he`s no better game day coach now than he was when he started but he`s being paid like he`s a legitimate, effective SEC football coach...... He`s not.