Not saying they gave us 50M. Saying they contributed something. It benefits them as well.
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Agree, but the B1G officials were looking for any and all infractions because they didn't fear or respect Franklin. The next hire has to be someone the pinhead B1G staff in Rosemont, IL respects.
Well, they didn’t respect or fear Paterno either. There was far more nonsense back then than there is now.
well I was at the game didnt have the luxury of replay, so if you say he was back, then Ok
Agree, They despised Paterno
Things haven't changed much since then
There are really only two teams the B1G really cares about. Oregon is a favored step-child until they face either OSU or Michigan.
also the roughing the passer was BS, I think the call on #10 against their WR was iffy as well.
How about the PF on a FC Kickoff - ever see a BS call like that? NW had 2 penalties for 10 yards - zero Offensive Holding calls despite multiple replays showing PSU defenders' jerseys literally being ripped as they attempted to get away from NW OL holds.
Hence, the pre-game script from Rosemont, IL. Kraft needs to make a really good, intimidating hire. Rhule isn't the solution.
Unless the video i watched was chopped up, he went in the tunnel a minute or so after the players did. But i honestly didnt watch close enough to see if it was edited.
Eh, he wasn't - replay clearly showed he jumped and returned clearly before ball was snapped. He was "on-sides" when the ball was snapped. BTW, the NCAA Rulebook does not even have a "High Hit on QB" rule as the NFL does (to show you the bs that this bushleague's Officials make up as they go along). The NCAA has 2 rules protecting QB - "Roughing the Passer" (illegal late hit or illegal low hit) and "Targetting PF" where QB is a "Protected Player" under the rule (i.e., you can not initiate contact to head or neck area). These hacks made a call that is not even in the NCAA Rulebook - "high hit" on a Protected Player is covered by Targetting Rule in NCAA and they didn't call this as it is a MANDATORY review and it would not have been upheld on Replay as it was beyond clearly a horse-crap call. Did you also notice how they ignored the clear Facemasking penalty on NW on the PSU muffed punt where the first NW player down pulled the PSU punt-receiver's helmet off by the facemask as the PSU player was attempting to recover the ball?
I could see that happening. Franklin tried to blow off Kraft at least until he addresses the team. Kraft having none of it, blows up on the spot. Franklin had to know this was coming.
That's not actually true. There is additional protection to the QB for high hits outside of the Targeting rule.
I agree that they missed DDS getting back onsides and the facemask...but at least get the rules correct as we're bitching.
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No, you're WRONG as per usual - the QB is protected against high hits while in throwing position within the NCAA Rulebook by the "Targetting PF" Rule which prohibits hits to head or neck area of a "Protected Player" (QB is a Protected Player while in pocket / throwing motion).
Care to explain rule 9-1-9-a-2 then, which specifically covers the high hits to the QB outside of the Targeting rule? You're really sticking to your claim that there isn't additional protection to hitting QBs high in that rule beyond the Targeting protection?
It's shocking that you can be both this confident and this wrong.
Furthermore, you don't know what you're talking about - the NFL no longer has specific "Targetting" Rules like the NCAA, but they do have a SPECIFIC PF RULE which prohibits "High Hits" on QB. Again, the NCAA has no such rule as "PF High Hit on QB" specifically because this foul is still covered by the Targetting Rules which still exist in CFB (but NO LONGER exist in NFL where they do have a specific "PF High Hit on QB" Rule). In the NCAA, a QB in the pocket is a "Protected Player" and protected against high hits. This is not what was called and the cheating, hack b1g douche officials called something that is not even in the NCAA Rulebook - had they called "PF Targetting" on a Protected Player (which is what prohibits high hit on QB), the play would have had a Mandatory Review. The play would have never withstood a Targetting Review as it was clearly a bullcrap call. Instead, they called something - "PF High Hit on QB" - that now exists in the NFL (since they eliminated their "Targetting" Rules), but does not even exist in NCAA as it is still covered by NCAA's Targetting Rule, which still exists in NCAA, but is not what was called.
Holy ****. Read an NCAA Football rule book. Rule 9-1-9-a-2 specifically covers the contact to the head or neck area of a Quarterback that goes beyond the Targeting rule. You're wrong if you think that the only protection given to QBs for high hits is the Targeting rule.
And it's not that the NFL "no longer" has a targeting rule. They've never had a targeting rule...it's an NCAA rule.
@CDLionFL - you seem to have knowledge of officiating and rule books...care to tell me if rule 9-1-9-a-2 exists in this year's NCAA rulebook, giving QBs additional protection on high hits under the Roughing the QB rule?
What is shocking is how full of crap you are as per usual - this is the LATE HIT RULE, the prescriptions of this rule only apply to qualifying hits after the main rule is met. Here is how the main rule reads:
ARTICLE 9.
a. No defensive player shall unnecessarily rough a passer, when it is obvious the ball has been thrown. The following actions are illegal, but not limited to:
IOW jagoff, the "following actions" don't apply if it isn't a late hit! The PSU defender hit the NW QB as he was releasing the ball - it clearly was not "obvious the ball has been thrown". The rules that protect the QB while in the throwing motion are the Targetting Rules - and that is not what was called.
This is exactly it. This is a new era. Everyone is getting paid. If they really had his back, then don’t pout and quit and lose 2 straight games favored by 20+. In the NFL - the coach gets canned and you behave like a professional and support the new staff to keep your job.
Your lack of knowledge of the rules is shocking. Hitting the QB high after he's thrown a pass is a textbook roughing the passer, even if you want to somehow spin it that the officials are idiots/corrupt and Targeting is the only potential call to make in that situation.
You're such a moron - you keep referencing a "dead ball" rule (i.e., PF Roughing the QB via a Late Hit). The Targetting Rules are "live ball" protections - you seem to want to mix & match Rules as you please like the typical obfuscating douchebag you are. Rule 9-1-9-a-2 STATES IN ITS FIRST SENTENCE that the Rule only applies to hits
"when it is obvious the ball has been thrown.". Given that this waa not a late hit, this rule and its additional prescriptions clearly don't apply. For "live ball" hits, the QB is protected from High Hits under the Targetting Rule as a Protected Player while passing.
He didn't hit the QB "high" as defined by the NCAA Rulebook dumba** - what video clip are you watching??? If there was any doubt about whether you're a shill and troll for this corrupt league and its hack officiciating, this series of posts should dismiss it. You proved what a douche you are by claiming that was clearly a high hit under the NCAA Rulebook... - not even remotely close to an illegal hit under the NCAA Rulebook, but here you are acting like it was a good call LMAO.
That's right, I forgot that the QB had no "live ball" protection under Roughing the Passer...you can blow him up 5 seconds after he's thrown the ball as long as the play is still alive and the hit isn't low or targeting.
W.T.F.
You legit have no concept of the rules. Hitting a QB high after he's thrown a pass is textbook Roughing the Passer. It would be one thing if you were trying to argue that it wasn't a high hit...but the fact that you think you're allowed to hit the QB high after he's thrown the ball is shocking, and that the only options in that situation are Targeting or clean.
Just rewatched the play. Fisher's left hand made relatively forcible contact with the QBs facemask after the ball was released. Pretty easy call, and one that will be made about 9/10 times.
And again, if you said "wow, it's a tough call, not sure if that contact to the facemask was forcible", you might have some type of argument. But the whole act of "the officials are so corrupt that they invented a penalty that doesn't exist" when anyone that actually understands an NCAA rule book understands the penalty...or saying "not even remotely close to an illegal hit", just reinforces the unknowledgable homer that you are.
I think Tom needs to pull a Kraft and fire the posters midseason who cannot settle their rules debate. That’s how we roll around here at PSU. 
A “courier?”
There are Penn State traditions to be upheld here. You send in Joe Moorhead with that slip of paper, dammit!
Yeah, he hit him 5 seconds after he threw it... - right troll-boy. He hit him just after he released the ball dumb@***. The Rule you referenced REQUIRES it to be "
obvious the ball has been thrown". Here's the rule as it reads in rulebook:
College: 9-1-9
SECTION 1. Personal Fouls
Roughing the Passer
ARTICLE 9.
a. No defensive player shall unnecessarily rough a passer, when it is obvious the ball has been thrown. The following actions are illegal, but not limited to:
Was CLEARLY not a situation where it was OBVIOUS THE BALL HAD BEEN THROWN already before defender made hit - the QB had barely released the ball when the PSU defender hit him, but here you are, like the typical douche you are, claiming that this rule applies... [insert eyeroll].
You're completely full of crap that the hit would have been deemed to be Targetting under the NCAA Rule that protects QBs in the throwing motion - all Targetting calls are a Mandatory Review and there is no way on God's Green Earth that was a violation under the actual NCAA Rulebook, but thanks for proving yet again what an obfuscating, b1g douche, shill and troll you are.
Sorry, it's a weakness of mine to get annoyed at people that don't understand the rules yet ***** about bad calls/corruption. Stems from dealing with it often in real life ("that ball hit the plate blue, that's a foul ball", or "that can't be a hit by pitch, the hands are part of the bat").I think Tom needs to pull a Kraft and fire the posters midseason who cannot settle their rules debate. That’s how we roll around here at PSU.
If you're going to ***** about actual bad or close calls, great. But if you don't actually understand the rule book, then stop complaining about those that actually do.
Because Franklin’s player, if faced with that same situation, would’ve accidentally made his way into the endzone. And then we would’ve gone on to lose the game because of it. Looking at you Devyn Ford!