Just thinking out loud
- Thread starter FourCornersCowboy
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Agreed. Not much to be gained. Though disgruntled football fans may enjoy some winning in the wrestling world… bring your friends to a dual this season!! Teach them the scoring! Great opportunity to get some converts.
I don’t mean to treat Gundy’s firing as a foregone conclusion (even though I think it is), but I hope whoever makes the hire for next head football coach takes a page from the DT hire and looks outside the “OSU family”. Just because a guy isn’t an OSU alum doesn’t mean he won’t be successful in Stillwater.
Football season is over. Maybe we could pack BP for dodgeball matches?
Looks like the 4 nights of Boys from Oklahoma are the highlight of 2025 in BPS. Granted, those were 4 phenomenal nights.
Football season is over. Maybe we could pack BP for dodgeball matches?
Actually, it would be pretty sweet to let the season end and host a surprise dual at BPS.Football season is over. Maybe we could pack BP for dodgeball matches?
I’ll bet we put more fans in than Gundy. Our Admin/AD is going to screw up the firing, so that moron will be here until the end of the season and I doubt we have any sizable crowds.
His buyout is 15 million not sure how a school pays that now with rev share being a thing
Well, evidently, he had already alienated several significant donors then he doubled down last season by calling the fanbase poor.
I don’t remember the exact quote, but he pretty much removed another significant portion of the revenue pool and that led to the awesome theatre of his outing last year that was thwarted at the 12th hour.
That to say, in some pretty good circles, the word is that the money is there to get him gone. It is my opinion that, those facts are true…but we need to have double that amount to climb out of the hole he’s put us in, on top of the 16.5 he’d cash in on. I don’t believe that money is there?
I think every P4 program has (or better have) a donor or combination of a few donors that can kick in that kind of money when times get desperate. These are really desperate times for OSU football because it isn’t just about the wins/losses from week-to-week. It is about trying to salvage the reputation OSU has had in recent history as a top 15-20 program (because that should always be important) so we stay in good position for the next big realignment move. I hope not firing him in December 2024 doesn’t prove fatal now. The $15 million likely could save hundreds of millions in future revenue to share with the athletes which could be lost if OSU is left out of a 2 mega conference realignment, for example. All programs, including wrestling, are relying on the administration, board of regents, and donors getting this right.
Yep football pays all the bills so they've to pay 15 million to fire him and hope the next guy turns it around or all sports at Oklahoma st will suffer. College sports is a mess
He should give the buyout back to the football program. That would help the program, salvage his rep locally, and just show a ton of goodwill towards the community. The man surely has enough socked away for his family to live comfortably off of dividends that he doesn't need 15 more millions.
I think they’re gonna hold off on canning Gundy for a couple of reasons.
1. For lack of a better way to put it is that he’s earned it. He’s built OSU football into what it is (was?), and the ROI on firing him midseason is non existent as I’ll state here next.
2. The moment you fire him, the transfer portal immediately opens and you face the possibility of a midseason exodus that makes an awful roster even worse. Wait to fire him until the winter portal window opens and you’re only dealing with 1 exodus period with the chance that the new guy can talk some into staying while also having a chance to pull guys out himself.
3. They can’t hire anyone until the season is over, and as far as I know there’s no rule against contacting possible hires or their angents ahead of time (up to a point). You gain nothing during midseason.
4. Which of the assclown assistants do you trust to see the rest of the season through? Bobby Petrino ain’t on staff! Donors can hem and haw that they won’t donate their promised money unless he’s fired midseason but that tune changes if the next AD makes an inspiring hire (I really like the idea of Klein, A&M’s OC).
5. We don’t have an AD. Weiberg is apparently going to be out sooner rather than later. You need someone in the head role with a vested long term interest and vision for this hire before you even THINK about making a move.
These are merely the ramblings of a man putting off doing work, so take them for what you will. I have no sources inside the department but that’s just how I see where we’re at right now.
To me, those are all great points. If there is going to be a new AD, that person needs to make the football coach hire. You are right, that should happen first.
Just goes to show how much this idiot knows.
My gut feeling is that a group of donors got together with the athletic director and came up with the money. Wrestling will be fine as we have our own donor group.
I agree there’s no way they make this move midseason without a large sum of donor money already promised. And I mean money for buyout, NIL, and the new coach/staff. If they don’t have all of that lined up then the university is a bigger $@!/show than we thought