Just wandering if we are the most fickle fan base

[LeonThe Camel]

Stoops loses 2 games early, and they were games we could have won. The Florida game was more suspect, but also we had potential to win.
Now we have 2 wins against teams we were expected to beat, although the USCjr game was nearly a toss up prior to kick off.
Now we face a team we have no reason to expect to beat. But I see the attitude of the board has begun to change. There are more uplifting posts. More I think we can keep it close. What if we had this or that.
Just find it interesting that people are starting to believe again. For that, Welcome back.

 

[football follies]

It's a message board

 

[allabouttheUK]

Fickle fan base...no.

Frustrated to the point of anger and irrational behavior...yes

I don't think people are more positive or jumping back on the wagon. Those posters are still the same as they were before. What you are seeing is the vocal posters about replacing stoops going back into hiding until something else happens for them to be vocal again.

The early start to the coaching carousel doesn't help matters any, and really puts Barney in a bind. He better pray that Stoops orchestrates some type of miraculous turn around and this team gets to bowl eligibility, or UK could end up being the odd man out when all is said and done.

 

[akaukswoosh]

Stoops loses 2 games early, and they were games we could have won. The Florida game was more suspect, but also we had potential to win.
Actually Sou Miss was a game we had to win and still weren't prepared with months of preparation. And Florida wasn't a game we had the potential to win.

 

[UKinSC_rivals383602]

Stoops loses 2 games early, and they were games we could have won. The Florida game was more suspect, but also we had potential to win.
Now we have 2 wins against teams we were expected to beat, although the USCjr game was nearly a toss up prior to kick off.
Now we face a team we have no reason to expect to beat. But I see the attitude of the board has begun to change. There are more uplifting posts. More I think we can keep it close. What if we had this or that.
Just find it interesting that people are starting to believe again. For that, Welcome back.

 

[John Henry]

If we really had the potential to beat Florida as the OP says then Stoops should have been fired at the end of the fourth quarter of that game. If we had the potential to beat Florida and we looked like a grade school team going up against them Stoops is a far worse coach than I and thousands of other UK fans think he is. We were totally unprepared against Southern Miss and Florida. New Mexico State is a horrible football team. They went through our defense like Swiss cheese. We had no chance against Florida and we have no chance against Alabama. If we beat Alabama it will be because they threw the game, not because we outplayed them.

 

[zannmann]

60 years of losing and you call us fickle? Are you related to Microwave Barney?

 

[UKinSC_rivals383602]

If we really had the potential to beat Florida as the OP says then Stoops should have been fired at the end of the fourth quarter of that game. If we had the potential to beat Florida and we looked like a grade school team going up against them Stoops is a far worse coach than I and thousands of other UK fans think he is. We were totally unprepared against Southern Miss and Florida. New Mexico State is a horrible football team. They went through our defense like Swiss cheese. We had no chance against Florida and we have no chance against Alabama. If we beat Alabama it will be because they threw the game, not because we outplayed them.

I think we'll score too quickly and wear our defense out!

 

[law1127]

It's way past time,that UK football fans should be exempt from any criticism,other than why follow,support 60 years of this essentially ,lousy football ! No fandom is more loyal or has persevered through more incompetent management or execution in game or from the administration! Guess what,us dumb fans are the ones that fund this fiasco!

 

[docholiday51]

Fickle fan base...no.

Frustrated to the point of anger and irrational behavior...yes

I don't think people are more positive or jumping back on the wagon. Those posters are still the same as they were before. What you are seeing is the vocal posters about replacing stoops going back into hiding until something else happens for them to be vocal again.

The early start to the coaching carousel doesn't help matters any, and really puts Barney in a bind. He better pray that Stoops orchestrates some type of miraculous turn around and this team gets to bowl eligibility, or UK could end up being the odd man out when all is said and done.

I think you are right,there are also other divides in this fan base.Some want to get to 9-3 or 10-2 without going thru the 6-6 7-5 stages to get there,granted Stoops has taken a step backward so far this year and there is enough evidence to say that he is not the man for the job.The other side of the coin is that we are still in the SEC and it is still a football conference,just about everybody is better than us and has been for a long time.They get more good players year over year than we do,whoever is the coach is forever playing catch-up just to be average.

If a coach could come in and go 5-7 or 6-6 his first year he would have a fighting chance to turn things around in a short time.We haven't found that guy yet.Joker had a chance to do that, Brooks left him in position to go 8-5 if he could coach a lick.The best he could do with that situation was 6-7,you knew right then he was way over his head.

Stoops seems to be making the same mistakes over and over again when it comes to game management, the addition of Gran (and probably Hinshaw) has helped. Can Stoops get us to the next level,sadly probably not but the thought of starting over at 2-10 or 3-9 is not so great either.

 

[blubo]

60 years of losing and you call us fickle? Are you related to Microwave Barney?

*63.

 

[Mr Schwump]

I wander too.

 

[buckkiller]

Is this Barneys Lover? Really!! Lol im done for settling or hoping praying for 6 wins! USCjr was a fools gold win. Ready for new coach who can compete for the East. Have a shot of truly beating teams like UF,UT,UGS,MISS ST etc... Fickle lol I never seen an EAST title yet! We have never sniffed the SEC title game!! Its time for that to change.

 

[LeonThe Camel]

Fickle fan base...no.

Frustrated to the point of anger and irrational behavior...yes

I don't think people are more positive or jumping back on the wagon. Those posters are still the same as they were before. What you are seeing is the vocal posters about replacing stoops going back into hiding until something else happens for them to be vocal again.

The early start to the coaching carousel doesn't help matters any, and really puts Barney in a bind. He better pray that Stoops orchestrates some type of miraculous turn around and this team gets to bowl eligibility, or UK could end up being the odd man out when all is said and done.

That is something I have spoken about as well. We have to realistically look at where we are on the coaching food chain. We are either a place for up and coming coaches to cut their teeth or we need to bite the bullet and become a last chance for coaches that can win but have blemishes.
We will not attract a coach is his prime or entering his prime. Just not who we are.

As for the Florida game, I guess I am drinking the kool aide of others. There were many on here that thought we would have a shot at beating them. Some were saying 9-3, 8-4, and 7-5 at worse.

 

[TTU/UK fan]

It doeant take much to please these people, where ya been?

 

[JHannibalSmith]

Fickle? Lol. The vast majority of fans will be happy with a bowl game. ANY bowl game. This is the part that frustrates me. Few, if any, expected Stoops to be competing for the SEC at this point. Most rational fans realize the roster he inherited was severely lacking in talent. But, by year 3-4 I don't think it's asking too much to eke out 6 wins. Basically, most would be thrilled with a .500 team at this point. People aren't mad because we aren't winning 10 games. We're just upset that CMS can't even put an AVERAGE team on the field with essentially the 4 best recruiting classes in school history. If people were raising hell because we aren't favorites in the East I could totally understand defending the product we get every Saturday. But, all we want for now is 6 freaking wins. And, it's not just that we still haven't been to a bowl in 6 years but people act like a .500 season is the 4 minute mile & to expect it in year 4 is completely unreasonable. BS. If after 4 years, mediocrity (6-6) is still a pipe dream then chances are we don't have the right man for the job.

 

[CB3UK]

Just wandering? Where you headed hoss?

 

[jc2010]

Its hard to get vocal about firing a coach after a win, that's it. We beat a bad team with a worse coach than ours. Some people looked good, had good games but what does it mean against a poor team.

I still don't think Stoops is up to the job and I don't think Barney is up to hiring his successor.

 

[allabouttheUK]

That is something I have spoken about as well. We have to realistically look at where we are on the coaching food chain. We are either a place for up and coming coaches to cut their teeth or we need to bite the bullet and become a last chance for coaches that can win but have blemishes.
We will not attract a coach is his prime or entering his prime. Just not who we are.

As for the Florida game, I guess I am drinking the kool aide of others. There were many on here that thought we would have a shot at beating them. Some were saying 9-3, 8-4, and 7-5 at worse.

Can't disagree with much of that. I think a lot of people (myself included) had very high hopes for this season. The defense has been a complete dud, and the offense has been sporadic at best. Hind sight is always 20/20, but looking back it was naive to expect much out of the front 7 with the losses by either dismissals, quitting, and graduation.
Was this supposed to be the year that things improved to 7 or 8 wins? Yes. I think this would have been the year had two guys that were looked at as quality experienced players still been on the team. I think those calling for 8+ wins was a bit foolish and overly optimistic, but that's ok, some fans are hopeful and positive, others are negative and miserable, and others just take it as it comes.

I watched the game on Saturday night and I didn't focus on the score. I wanted to see if play calling had improved on the offense, and it did IMO. I wanted to see if the defense had many any improvement at all, and they did IMO. No, South Carolina isn't a great win, but it was a needed win, and a hard fought win. South Carolina as bad as they are, they are still an SEC member school, and an east division opponent. With that said, I will take the rest of this season one game at a time and hope it leads to a bowl.