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<blockquote data-quote="The Bell Tolls for Thee" data-source="post: 131807243" data-attributes="member: 1812660"><p>Then your opinions are shaped by those with an axe to grind. Healthy individuals without obesity and this includes the "just an extra 20 pounds" crowd have very little risk. And in medical terms having bad flu symptoms that make you feel like hammered crap for a week but doesn't kill you or cause significant disability is not a public health concern. The fact is that if you are under 50 and healthy, COVID infection still poses less of a risk, by percentage of infected, than the flu. Anecdotes be damned, the data is the data. Now the fact that COVID is much more likely to infect you and thus the case numbers of COVID being higher than the flu will make the overall numbers higher of permanently disabled or dead higher than the flu doesn't change percentage risk. </p><p></p><p>That's the problem with the politicization of this disease. And it included Democrats saying they would be wary of the very ******* vaccine they are currently pushing if it were "developed under Trump" ... which it was. They'd still be saying it if Trump won just as they were touting how unsafe and suppressed the vote was before the election to preserve a talking point if Biden lost. Suddenly a complete reversal on both counts because one side won. </p><p></p><p>In any event, you are more likely to be permanently disabled or killed by a motor vehicle accident any day you drive than you are from COVID. The reason that you are not aware of that is that the media is not constantly throwing it in your face. It's the same reason that you were not aware of all the young healthy people with myocarditis, transverse myelitis, Guillian-Barre syndrome, and various other morbidity along with mortality associated with the flu in years past. It's because it's a known quantity and not likely to stir the pot like this new disease.</p><p></p><p>We live in a very sheltered time and COVID increases our risk of death to a likelihood less than the risk of death from daily life 40-50 years ago. The willingness we have to just cede our liberties to a bunch of authoritarian bureaucrats because we are so afraid to live, due to a risk that is miniscule compared to what just about every generation before us faced, is ******* embarrassing.</p><p></p><p>Ultimately, COVID is not nothing. It's not just a cold. It is exceptionally dangerous to the older, particularly those above age 65, and the co-morbid, especially the obese. While it's likelihood of death is less than flu, it's also novel and much more infectious. This means more cases and thus more unlucky people having the unfortunate outcome of death. Thus the vaccine is more likely to be beneficial than detrimental to even the healthy. All that said, it is still not the albatross of risk it's been made out to be and subsequently used to grab power by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats. Heart disease, cancer, and car accidents are still far more likely to kill the average American, including the very young and healthy, than in the event of a GUARANTEED COVID infection. It's certainly not worth abandoning the concept of individual liberty the entire country is founded upon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Bell Tolls for Thee, post: 131807243, member: 1812660"] Then your opinions are shaped by those with an axe to grind. Healthy individuals without obesity and this includes the "just an extra 20 pounds" crowd have very little risk. And in medical terms having bad flu symptoms that make you feel like hammered crap for a week but doesn't kill you or cause significant disability is not a public health concern. The fact is that if you are under 50 and healthy, COVID infection still poses less of a risk, by percentage of infected, than the flu. Anecdotes be damned, the data is the data. Now the fact that COVID is much more likely to infect you and thus the case numbers of COVID being higher than the flu will make the overall numbers higher of permanently disabled or dead higher than the flu doesn't change percentage risk. That's the problem with the politicization of this disease. And it included Democrats saying they would be wary of the very ******* vaccine they are currently pushing if it were "developed under Trump" ... which it was. They'd still be saying it if Trump won just as they were touting how unsafe and suppressed the vote was before the election to preserve a talking point if Biden lost. Suddenly a complete reversal on both counts because one side won. In any event, you are more likely to be permanently disabled or killed by a motor vehicle accident any day you drive than you are from COVID. The reason that you are not aware of that is that the media is not constantly throwing it in your face. It's the same reason that you were not aware of all the young healthy people with myocarditis, transverse myelitis, Guillian-Barre syndrome, and various other morbidity along with mortality associated with the flu in years past. It's because it's a known quantity and not likely to stir the pot like this new disease. We live in a very sheltered time and COVID increases our risk of death to a likelihood less than the risk of death from daily life 40-50 years ago. The willingness we have to just cede our liberties to a bunch of authoritarian bureaucrats because we are so afraid to live, due to a risk that is miniscule compared to what just about every generation before us faced, is ******* embarrassing. Ultimately, COVID is not nothing. It's not just a cold. It is exceptionally dangerous to the older, particularly those above age 65, and the co-morbid, especially the obese. While it's likelihood of death is less than flu, it's also novel and much more infectious. This means more cases and thus more unlucky people having the unfortunate outcome of death. Thus the vaccine is more likely to be beneficial than detrimental to even the healthy. All that said, it is still not the albatross of risk it's been made out to be and subsequently used to grab power by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats. Heart disease, cancer, and car accidents are still far more likely to kill the average American, including the very young and healthy, than in the event of a GUARANTEED COVID infection. It's certainly not worth abandoning the concept of individual liberty the entire country is founded upon. [/QUOTE]
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