Kaepernick Receiving Death Threats

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Keep politics out of sports.
Politics should be kept out of sports and entertainment. When "stars" start railing about this problem or that, I generally turn them off or walk out if there. Most people go to get away from everyday problems and really don't want to hear about it.
 
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Sure, but if they're gonna do that, they need to be articulate in explaining WHY they are doing something. Kaepernick's explanation was vapid and inaccurate. Furthermore, anyone who takes a controversial position should expect to come under criticism.

Sort of like when you welshed on a bet on this site.
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Politics should be kept out of sports and entertainment. When "stars" start railing about this problem or that, I generally turn them off or walk out if there. Most people go to get away from everyday problems and really don't want to hear about it.
Why should athletes and actors not be entitled to their 1st amendment rights?
 

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So people with means should never speak up for those that don't have the means or platform from which to speak? I guess only people who have actually been shot have a right to speak for those who have been shot?

Never is one so blind that won't open their eyes ( or minds).
Thank God, Russ! You finally grew a pair and quit hiding behind fuzzy usernames. However, you still have that uncanny ability to make a fairly intelligent and accurate statement but completely miss the point of the discussion.
 
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Sure, but if they're gonna do that, they need to be articulate in explaining WHY they are doing something. Kaepernick's explanation was vapid and inaccurate. Furthermore, anyone who takes a controversial position should expect to come under criticism.

Sort of like when you welshed on a bet on this site.
When has Kaepernick ever said that he didn't expect criticism?

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

Inaccurate? If that is his POV and that POV is shared by others, which it is then it is very real to him.
I have two friends from school who are West Point graduates and both are corporate executives today. They are both black and they both very much share Kaepernick's POV.
And I assure you that every day that passes that another video of police shooting unarmed black men who posed no threat to them like this past one in Tulsa, more shift to his side.
 

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When has Kaepernick ever said that he didn't expect criticism?

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

Inaccurate? If that is his POV and that POV is shared by others, which it is then it is very real to him.
I have two friends from school who are West Point graduates and both are corporate executives today. They are both black and they both very much share Kaepernick's POV.
And I assure you that every day that passes that another video of police shooting unarmed black men who posed no threat to them like this past one in Tulsa, more shift to his side.
It IS inaccurate. Name one case that's been in the news where someone got away with murder. I haven't seen a single case where it wasn't investigated, and in several cases officers were tried on trumped up charges and found not guilty. If anything, people are being falsely accused by grandstanding DAs trying to make a name for themselves with SJWs. You're just another sheeple.

The facts haven't yet come out in the Tulsa shooting. Are you one of those people who believes in guilty first, prove innocence later?

And you never addressed the elephant in the room, namely that you still owe BradyJames $1,000 for a bet that you welshed on.
 

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Can you quote the First Amendment? Because I don't think you really understand what it means.
It's fascinating how liberals do understand what it means when it comes to people like Paula Deem and the Duck Dynasty guy, whatever his name is. Or Al Campanis. Or that frat guy at Oklahoma. Well, they sort of understand what it means because students at state universities probably ARE protected by it. How quickly they turn on a dime when convenient for them.
 

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When has Kaepernick ever said that he didn't expect criticism?

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

Inaccurate? If that is his POV and that POV is shared by others, which it is then it is very real to him.
I have two friends from school who are West Point graduates and both are corporate executives today. They are both black and they both very much share Kaepernick's POV.
And I assure you that every day that passes that another video of police shooting unarmed black men who posed no threat to them like this past one in Tulsa, more shift to his side.
And I assure you they should be more concerned about the 375 slaughtered in Chicago in 2016 by black on black violence. Police have shot and killed 667 in 2016- 162 were black. How many of those 162 were considered without cause? I can assure you the 375 murdered ( and an incredible 3000 plus were shot in the same time period) were drug and crime related. Tell me, where is the outrage?
 

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It IS inaccurate. Name one case that's been in the news where someone got away with murder. I haven't seen a single case where it wasn't investigated, and in several cases officers were tried on trumped up charges and found not guilty. If anything, people are being falsely accused by grandstanding DAs trying to make a name for themselves with SJWs. You're just another sheeple.

And you never addressed the elephant in the room, namely that you still owe BradyJames $1,000 for a bet that you welshed on.
Did OJ get away with murder or not? I mean he was tried and found not guilty.

Yes they are all investigated and most found not guilty if they went to trial. If you don't trust the system, don't believe that the proper verdict is rendered then you're going to feel that they got away with murder.
The cop in Chicago who shot an unarmed man 16 times as more than a dozen other cops watched. The city tried to cover it up and was more than a year before dash cam video was released.
"The dashboard camera video of the shooting that was released, under public pressure, in November incited widespread protests and exposed an entrenched “code of silence” among officers who had sworn to a far different account of the shooting from what the video captured."
They are now looking at firing 7 policemen who were involved. But no murder charges...

I gave you the opinion of two very well educated, reasoned and men who have risen to the tops of their professions I personally know, not my opinion. I'm not black and never lived one day as a black man. Be sure to let me know the first day you do so.

Let's see what happens in Tulsa. Again, the video doesn't match what the cops are saying. Non-lethal force was available yet one office decided they needed to use lethal force against a man with his hands in the air...because he "wasn't following commands".
 

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And I assure you they should be more concerned about the 375 slaughtered in Chicago in 2016 by black on black violence. Police have shot and killed 667 in 2016- 162 were black. How many of those 162 were considered without cause? I can assure you the 375 murdered ( and an incredible 3000 plus were shot in the same time period) were drug and crime related. Tell me, where is the outrage?
Still trying to understand what black on black violence has to do with cops doing their job?

Do you know that they aren't concerned about other violence? That discussion is going on in the black community.
 

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Still trying to understand what black on black violence has to do with cops doing their job?

Do you know that they aren't concerned about other violence? That discussion is going on in the black community.
I don't see anything on it on TV, social media or any other avenue that discusses the issue. The cops do their jobs- tell me once again how many of the 162 killed by the police this year are considered without cause? What I do know is the police who were charged in Baltimore were all found not guilty by a black judge. But once again, that doesn't fit the agenda does it? The bottomline is black on black violence has reached epidemic levels all across the US. Yet the focus is on the police.
 

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Did OJ get away with murder or not? I mean he was tried and found not guilty.

Yes they are all investigated and most found not guilty if they went to trial. If you don't trust the system, don't believe that the proper verdict is rendered then you're going to feel that they got away with murder.
The cop in Chicago who shot an unarmed man 16 times as more than a dozen other cops watched. The city tried to cover it up and was more than a year before dash cam video was released.
"The dashboard camera video of the shooting that was released, under public pressure, in November incited widespread protests and exposed an entrenched “code of silence” among officers who had sworn to a far different account of the shooting from what the video captured."
They are now looking at firing 7 policemen who were involved. But no murder charges...

I gave you the opinion of two very well educated, reasoned and men who have risen to the tops of their professions I personally know, not my opinion. I'm not black and never lived one day as a black man. Be sure to let me know the first day you do so.

Let's see what happens in Tulsa. Again, the video doesn't match what the cops are saying. Non-lethal force was available yet one office decided they needed to use lethal force against a man with his hands in the air...because he "wasn't following commands".
Don't play that weakass moral authority card with me, champ.

Let me get this straight.

I ask you for an example, and you give me OJ? ROFLMAO

Your credibility is in the *******, pal. Not only was that case over 20 years ago, but a) he's not a cop, b) he's black, and c) he WAS found liable in the wrongful death suit brought by the Goldmans.

And you should link the other story, so I can see when it happened. Sounds like someone WAS held accountable, but I'd rather not take your word for it.

Honestly, you should quit while you're behind.
 
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I don't see anything on it on TV, social media or any other avenue that discusses the issue. The cops do their jobs- tell me once again how many of the 162 killed by the police this year are considered without cause? What I do know is the police who were charged in Baltimore were all found not guilty by a black judge. But once again, that doesn't fit the agenda does it? The bottomline is black on black violence has reached epidemic levels all across the US. Yet the focus is on the police.
What you are trying to do is add context. Context is not good for the argument of somebody who is trying to exaggerate a scenario. If you are a friend or family of someone who is murdered, whether it be by the police or someone else, it is perfectly natural that you have a strong emotional reaction. You may even over-react and do something that is also wrong. However, when you have never met the victim, a typical reaction would be to simply express your opinion that it was unjustified. This is the typical reaction that most African-Americans have when they hear about a black on black murder of someone they do not know. You and I have the very same reaction. You say it is a shame and you feel bad for their family. Why is it different when a police officer is the one committing the crime? Is it because they are supposed to be there to protect? It can't be that since their is absolutely no outrage from the black or white community when the victim is white. The reaction occurs because you have the media, politicians, community leaders, pastors and even athletes getting on TV and making it personal. Even though the people who are outraged and rioting have never met the victim, they have been bamboozled into believing that they are also a victim because they share a common trait with a complete stranger.
 

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Should this report prove true, as I suspect it will, how many moonbats will retract their accusations of a deliberate homicide?

My guess- zero. They'll stop talking about this case, and move to the next, with no apology for being wrong about this case.
 
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When has Kaepernick ever said that he didn't expect criticism?

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

Inaccurate? If that is his POV and that POV is shared by others, which it is then it is very real to him.
I have two friends from school who are West Point graduates and both are corporate executives today. They are both black and they both very much share Kaepernick's POV.
And I assure you that every day that passes that another video of police shooting unarmed black men who posed no threat to them like this past one in Tulsa, more shift to his side.

So,

Mortgages granted based on race, being black, not the ability to afford them.

Higher ACT and SAT scores, just for being black.

Free college tuition paid through many minority based scholarships, many provided by white people.

Affirmative action that grants jobs based on race and not qualifications.

Cops kill very few people at all, and very few blacks are killed at the hands of police. Very few. Let's say you obtain that extreme utopian world that you think is achievable in an imperfect world. No black deaths at the hands of cops. None. The .007% per year is now gone.

What else does Kaepernick want? Would we fight the real issue then?

Unless you want reparations, there's very little America can do to accommodate minorities and blacks more at this point.

Sorry, it's the truth.
 

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Still trying to understand what black on black violence has to do with cops doing their job?

Do you know that they aren't concerned about other violence? That discussion is going on in the black community.

No, that discussion ISNT going on in the black community. And it sure as hell ISNT going on with the MSM, your favorite politicians, and guys like you. When's the last time you ever spoke toward the massive issue of black on black crime on this board or with your friends? We both know that answer.

If the outrage over the actual data of Black on black crime was 1/10th of what it is with the very slim chance of a unjustified police shooting, it would have already stopped. Where the riots over gangs and drug dealers that are RAVAGING these inner cities? Where are they? More than one little girl was killed in Chicago in the last 6 months by thug bullets and NO protest were anywhere. None. One of the mothers had to beg people just to listen and barely made CNN's headlines. So stop lying.

Inner city black America doesn't have a cop problem at all. Honestly when you look at the actual data, it's shocking how "not a problem" it actually is. Kaepernick is a dumbass and SJW's like you are a huge problem for these communities. The soft bigotry of low expectation with your kind is racist at heart and disgusting.

Number ONE cause of black male death ages 15-34 is HOMICIDE. Police shootings, unjust or not, account for what? Less than 1 percent?

And you rattle your nonsense on this board toward that? You think that's helping? I'm sorry to say this, but it's guys like you and Kaepernick that are partly responsible for those graves. In some way, there's enough of you to help create a diversion of the real problem, and people are dying.
 
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Hey, look what I found...

It's why they won't confront the problem. The Math shows they have failed, their ideology has failed, their reforms have failed, and the last thing they want is people to realize this. So the continue the soft bigotry and hide. It's easy to ***** about a law enforcement officer policing. People naturally hate being told how to act.

Confronting the main issue, the real issue? All of those ivory tower leftist elitist would be out on their asses, and they know it.
 

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Who says they aren't?

Quit using strawman arguments.

If you take the logical fallacies (you're not my race you can't talk about this), red herrings ( ability to look over 400 dead bodies and point to one dead criminal killed by a cop), or this particular straw man off the table, what would he have? The truth?

[pfftt]

Please.
 

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This may seem to be off-topic, but, given the proliferation of posts on this thread from one who shall remain nameless, it's quite relevant on this thread.

If you make a bet, and lose the best, you pay up. It's the right thing to do.

And here's something else. If, for whatever reason, you want to use an alt, so that you can agree with your own posts, at least adopt a posting style that doesn't make it patently obvious that you are using an alt. When it's obvious that you are playing that game, the purpose is defeated, and, moreover, you end up looking kind of silly.
 
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This may seem to be off-topic, but, given the proliferation of posts on this thread from one who shall remain nameless, it's quite relevant on this thread.

If you make a bet, and lose the best, you pay up. It's the right thing to do.

And here's something else. If, for whatever reason, you want to use an alt, so that you can agree with your own posts, at least adopt a posting style that doesn't make it patently obvious that you are using an alt. When it's obvious that you are playing that game, the purpose is defeated, and, moreover, you end up looking kind of silly.

Fuzz has 2, maybe 3 user names I've identified. The posting style is identical.

He's a quack. His arguments don't hold to truth or data, always falls back on "they know how they feel" or some other arbitrary nonsense.

I'd put his profiles on ignore if it didn't need to be called.

What bet did he lose?
 

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Fuzz has 2, maybe 3 user names I've identified. The posting style is identical.

He's a quack. His arguments don't hold to truth or data, always falls back on "they know how they feel" or some other arbitrary nonsense.

I'd put his profiles on ignore if it didn't need to be called.

What bet did he lose?
I honestly don't remember. But it was (allegedly) a pretty big one. I keep him on ignore but occasionally will click on "show ignored content" when someone is really getting flamed by everyone else and sure enough, there he is.
 
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This may seem to be off-topic, but, given the proliferation of posts on this thread from one who shall remain nameless, it's quite relevant on this thread.

If you make a bet, and lose the best, you pay up. It's the right thing to do.

And here's something else. If, for whatever reason, you want to use an alt, so that you can agree with your own posts, at least adopt a posting style that doesn't make it patently obvious that you are using an alt. When it's obvious that you are playing that game, the purpose is defeated, and, moreover, you end up looking kind of silly.
It's known as a sockpuppet and in most websites, including the one I own, it's a bannable offense.
 

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Fuzz has 2, maybe 3 user names I've identified. The posting style is identical.

He's a quack. His arguments don't hold to truth or data, always falls back on "they know how they feel" or some other arbitrary nonsense.

I'd put his profiles on ignore if it didn't need to be called.

What bet did he lose?
I don't remember the specifics of the bet except that he bet poster bradyjames $1k in front of witnesses and then welshed when he lost.