Keep our troops out of Israel

MegaBlue05

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Not necessarily true...for starters both Judaism and Islam technically have the same God. B. About 20% of Israel is Muslim.

The conflict is much more complicated than editorials of either lean boil it down to, but its quite embarrassing how progressives and some leftist media portray it compared to how the rest of the civilized world sees it.

It's always "poor Palestine was just throwing rocks"

No the reality is Palestine isn't really a recognized country because they're incapable of governing themselves...and bc of that they scapegoat Israel for everything to divert the attention of their citizens. Don't get me wrong, there are things to criticize Israel about. But the reality is Israel could wipe Palestine off the face of the earth if they really wanted to, and they don't even retaliate as much as they could bc they try not to kill civilians...even tho the press jumps all over it if they do,, while ignoring the ones hamas kills. Palestine doesn't want a 2 state solution, they want jews eradicated. They also openly fund terrorist groups along with other countries like Iran (which is why the Iran deal was such a problem) then throw children in harms way bc they know morons will believe this propaganda.

To put it simply...imagine if Mexico constantly lobbed rockets over the border bc they cried Texas used to be Mexican territory. Theres not because there was a war...they lost, and everyone moved on. Or imagine if Mexico lobbed rockets over and a progressive or a comedian in a suit like Trevor noah claimed "yeah but they can't kill everyone so you should show restraint and let it happen" ....thats basically their stance on this issue. Just embarrassing.

I’m not trying to turn this political. I’m just tired of both sides of this issue, so eff em both. I’m in my 40s and Israel vs Palestine has been a thing my whole life and nothing is ever resolved.

Living together in harmony shouldn’t be hard and the main issue preventing that is religion. That’s why I’m no fan of religion in general because of all the blood that’s been shed in its name since the beginning of recorded human history.

I freely admit Islam is the worst religion of them all by a wide margin. I would like to see peace in the region but it will never happen. I’d rather the US stay out of it. Not our circus, not our monkeys.
 

KingOfBBN

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I’m not trying to turn this political. I’m just tired of both sides of this issue, so eff em both. I’m in my 40s and Israel vs Palestine has been a thing my whole life and nothing is ever resolved.

Living together in harmony shouldn’t be hard and the main issue preventing that is religion. That’s why I’m no fan of religion in general because of all the blood that’s been shed in its name since the beginning of recorded human history.

I freely admit Islam is the worst religion of them all by a wide margin. I would like to see peace in the region but it will never happen. I’d rather the US stay out of it. Not our circus, not our monkeys.
Amen.
 

Deeeefense

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I’m not trying to turn this political. I’m just tired of both sides of this issue, so eff em both. I’m in my 40s and Israel vs Palestine has been a thing my whole life and nothing is ever resolved.

Living together in harmony shouldn’t be hard and the main issue preventing that is religion. That’s why I’m no fan of religion in general because of all the blood that’s been shed in its name since the beginning of recorded human history.

I freely admit Islam is the worst religion of them all by a wide margin. I would like to see peace in the region but it will never happen. I’d rather the US stay out of it. Not our circus, not our monkeys.

I agree religion has been the driving cause of many wars especially in that region, but the Israeli, Palestinian conflict isn't about religion. There are a half million Arab Muslims that are citizens of Israel and about 15% of Palestinians are Christians. The issue is territory. Israel continues to confiscate land that is legally part of Palestine and relocate their people elsewhere. I can understand Israel's paranoia and wanting to have a larger buffer area to protect itself but this should be done be treaties, not at the point of a gun. This is why the Pals are shooting those overgrown bottle rockets into Israel. Palestinians have their own issues with the bellicose Hamas faction that has screwed up attempts at peace deal. Israel has had hard line leadership for many years as well.

The best news to come out of this area in some time IMO is Israel establishing relationship with the UAE and getting close to seeing something some about between them and Saudi Arabia. If they can broaden their diplomatic net it could ease tensions along the boarder that could lead to something better in time.
 

Phil_The_Music2

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Send them in. They are one of our best allies.
Man I'm torn on this one. I whole heartedly agree with you that they are one of our best allies. But what a cluster it will be with Biden leading the charge. There's no way they would let our troops fight the way they need to. It really is a lose lose situation.
 

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I guess everyone, including the media, has forgotten about the peace agreement Trump helped put in place? Biden is weak and the world knows it. The Mideast goes back to its instability, gas prices rise, and our borders are at risk. The US is not in a good place. Trump may not have been the answer to all of our problems, but Biden isn’t the answer to any of them. Harris? HA!! We’re barely 100 days into this administration, and there are new threats aplenty. We need a strong leader, but who in the hell amongst our brightest and best would want to take in this **** show? For me, military service should be a prerequisite to serve as president.
 

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I guess everyone, including the media, has forgotten about the peace agreement Trump helped put in place? Biden is weak and the world knows it. The Mideast goes back to its instability, gas prices rise, and our borders are at risk. The US is not in a good place. Trump may not have been the answer to all of our problems, but Biden isn’t the answer to any of them. Harris? HA!! We’re barely 100 days into this administration, and there are new threats aplenty. We need a strong leader, but who in the hell amongst our brightest and best would want to take in this **** show? For me, military service should be a prerequisite to serve as president.
What were the terms of these deals?
 
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I guess everyone, including the media, has forgotten about the peace agreement Trump helped put in place? Biden is weak and the world knows it. The Mideast goes back to its instability, gas prices rise, and our borders are at risk. The US is not in a good place. Trump may not have been the answer to all of our problems, but Biden isn’t the answer to any of them. Harris? HA!! We’re barely 100 days into this administration, and there are new threats aplenty. We need a strong leader, but who in the hell amongst our brightest and best would want to take in this **** show? For me, military service should be a prerequisite to serve as president.
Since when has the Middle East ever been stable?
 

Deeeefense

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I don’t dislike Israel. We can morally support them without costing American lives

I think that's where most people are on this. A war in the region would be totally insane. At any rate Israel doesn't need US military personnel, we have already given them the latest and greatest weapons and they have an extremely well trained armed forces. Sending our troops to that regions would simply throw gas on the anti-American fervor over there and prompt more terrorism. Hopefully we learned that with our venture into Iraq to destroy weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist and gave birth to ISIS.

I think the diplomacy path is the correct one, including improved relations between Israel and it's Arab neighbors which we are seeing - a credit to the previous administration.
 

bkingUK

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That's my point...like everything, ppl just blindly support Palestine bc its what the groupthink says to do, or Israel. It's why I said don't listen to either editorial lean on things
On a different note, I get triggered every time I see your signature
 
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Deeeefense

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Moral support them huh. That'll show those trying to kill Israelis. Good grief.

I think he meant as a people we give them moral support, As a government we give Israel more than moral support. we give them $4 Billion a year in mostly military aid including:

  • 64,744 M-16A1 rifles
  • 2,469 M-204 grenade launchers
  • 1,500 M-2 .50 caliber machine guns
  • .30 caliber, .50 caliber, and 20mm ammunition
also funding to develop laser anti-missile systems and tanks.

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You caught me. I like to spend my evenings listening to Slayer records - backwards - and drinking the blood of baby goats as a ritualistic sacrifice to the almighty dark master himself.
You see, I knew you would come out of the dark when prodded. Pagan.

Edited: Pronounce the last word in Spanish.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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I think he meant as a people we give them moral support, As a government we give Israel more than moral support. we give them $4 Billion a year in mostly military aid including:

  • 64,744 M-16A1 rifles
  • 2,469 M-204 grenade launchers
  • 1,500 M-2 .50 caliber machine guns
  • .30 caliber, .50 caliber, and 20mm ammunition
also funding to develop laser anti-missile systems and tanks.

Institute for Policy Study
When your neighbor starts shooting at you and throwing grenades....I will morally support you....good luck
 

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Both sides are idiots. Palestine's for thinking it was a smart idea to start slamming rockets into a place that could wipe you off the face of the map, and Israel for deciding to take their anger out on innocent Palestinians living in Israel.
 

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I would like for Israel to turn loose and wipe out their enemy with direct aim at Iran. Israel is the best fighting force on earth and that includes the Americans. While our military pushes social engineering and social justice, Israel trains their army to kill the enemy. Remember this. America has not won a war since 1945. And we will not win another one as long as our mission is social justice.

Let Israel go it alone and fight this war on their terms And when they destroy their enemies let them keep every inch of land they conquer. Let them wipe out Iran and sell what is left of it to the Democrats. Israel will win this battle and it is long overdue. We have tied their hands long enough. We always jump in and put the brakes on them, this time just let them go.

Hear, Hear!!!👏