Keeper league question

57stratdawg

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Dec 1, 2004
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How do you guys do keepers? My league is letting you pick two to keep, and then everyone else will be pooled together and we'll draft as normal. To me, that's a horrible way, because its basically 'keep them or lose them'.

Is that how everyone does it? Seems like it would better to lose the draft round of the player from 2014 you're keeping. In other words, if you pick Mark Ingram in the 6th round of 2014 and keep him, you'd lose your 6th round pick in 2015 draft.
 

DawgatAuburn

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Option 1: Don't do keepers. This is what I do in every league I'm in.
Option 2: Do as you said.
Option 3: Lose the round higher than the round you drafted. So in your example, lose your 5th round pick. Some who do this format do not allow first rounders to be kept.
Option 4: Settle on an ADP list and lose the round most closely associated with your player's value. So if you drafted Odell Beckham last year in the 15th round or picked him up as a FA, but this year his ADP is 8, then you would lose a first round pick.
 

aTotal360

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Nov 12, 2009
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That is probably the most common way keeper leagues work. And what you said in your second paragraph is slowing becoming the norm for more advanced leagues.
 

hullabaloodog

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Like you suggested, the keepers need to be assigned a value. Keeping them straight up is a bad idea and could really 17 up league parity. In a snake draft, I like them replacing the round you drafted them in minus 1. Also think about setting a limit to how long a player can be kept. (3 years, 5 years, etc.)
 

Hankp22

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Oct 17, 2012
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You got to establish value for players

We have had the same keeper league running for nearly 10 years now. It is a 12 team league and we still have 10 of the original members.

1. Establish league budget (we do a roster budget of $300)
2- Auction players
3 -End Auction value becomes keeper salary
4. Players kept the following year increase their salary in tiers based on the number of years you have kept them.
5. It is run like a budget/actual roster as you making determinations on future v actual value.
6. With annual increases of 10-20-30 points to kept players, each roster is forced to make some changes. The system rewards landing a prospect at a good value. And you can keep them for 3 years before they destroy your value.
 
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Dawg1979

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Our keeper league is simple. when you draft your team, anyone that you draft after round 2 is eligable to be kept the next year. you must draft them though. no pickups or trades. the next year you draft, they are in the spot where you drafted them the year before. example, i drafted Percy Harvin 2 years ago, when he was hurt and out for the year, with my 12th round pick. then last year, he was simply put in as my 12th round pick. sure he sat on IR all season, but its not a roster spot for me. same year i drafted Julius Thomas as my 9th round pick. i got to keep him last year as my 9th rounder.

some people play with keepers being any round, but to me, that takes all the fun out of changing up a team. i don't like the idea of the same person having Aaron Rodgers or Adrian Peterson every year. just more fun to me
 

rem101

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This was our first year to do a keeper. We moved the person up 2 rounds from last years pick (they allowed 1st rounders to be kept, but I'm going to mention about that not being allowed in future as you don't lose any drat spots). You must draft them the year before and have to keep all year on your roster. We can keep for 3 years, including the first year you have them.

We do a snake draft, and anyone who doesn't have a keeper goes first (no matter what round your keeper is in). Then it resumes normal draft order, obviously skipping you for the round your keeper is in. For example, pick 1 and 3 didn't keep, but pick 2 and 4 did. The draft order went 1, 3, 2, 4, and so on.

Like I said, this is the first year we did a keeper and it's a work in progress. This year we also upped our buy in $50 to pay the highest scoring team each week, hoping to keep people who are out of the playoff race late in the year form just bombing a game.
 

dorndawg

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Sep 10, 2012
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I'd say do whatever keeps your league cohesive year to year (assuming its people you know) & isn't terribly complicated (it's called "fantasy").

I enjoy playing, but more and more it seems like fantasy football is a step above bingo in terms of complete randomness & luck.
 

DawgatAuburn

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Fantasy football is middle of the road. Though it's probably tons more profitable/popular than fantasy baseball, it's nowhere near the commitment nor does it require the depth of knowledge that baseball does. Football is also, in my opinion, not as much of a drafting contest as the NBA is. I gave up on basketball because a) I don't care for the NBA game, and 2) If you didn't have one of the top 4-5 guys in the league (top draft picks), you had no chance to win. The daily game is tons better for basketball.
 

dorndawg

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Sep 10, 2012
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Yeah I don't disagree with any of that (maybe a little for NBA, but I view it mostly as a little something to do when there's no baseball or football).

Just seems like outcomes are much more random in football & scoring comes outta nowhere.
 

PineGroveBully

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Nov 13, 2007
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In the 13th year of my keeper league. We are totally different than most of these guys. We have 12 teams with 24 man rosters. We do Individual Defensive Players. We keep 14 each year and then everyone else becomes FA's for our 10 round draft. We don't do any values for players. The draft is just like the NFL. Worst record to best with the champ drafting last. Like I said it's our 13th year with probably 8 of the 12 managers original
 
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